Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

**Delicious Dawn** · 12-03-12 11:42

Both of you ladies are right.

Desperation does not get you business. It clearly shows exactly what Molly stated. It is Christmas time, things will get slow. If a client wants to come see you, he will. Bugging someone, blowing up their text, etc won't bring them to your door. Advertisement, creativity, sexiness. Those are just a few things that will bring a client to your door. Also, think about traveling a bit. Get some variety in your life as well. Perhaps even get a real regular part time job to supplement your income. There are certain times of the year when hobbying is slow. All of us ladies go through it.

Such as when a new lady hits the scene, everyone wants to try her. It's expected and natural.

Never nag a gentleman. They sometimes get enough of that at home or in the committed relationship that they might be in.

Also, they do NOT have to explain why they are seeing a new lady. Variety is nice. IF they really enjoy you and their time with you, they will come back to you. No worries. They see ladies like us so they don't have to deal with us outside of the bedroom. Nagging them or questioning them about seeing someone else will only do one thing, scare them away.

I've noticed that some providers will make comments as to how things should be done, etc. What's the best approach for one provider might not be the best approach for another. Downing another provider or making comments about how another provider runs her business is just cattiness and uncalled for. We all do what works best for us and if we happen to do things a little differently than another, who cares. It's not effecting your money or business so don't worry about it.

The drama is at times ridiculous. Sure, there are times when I would like to pipe in and say something in regards to someone posting childishness or negativity, but I don't. Why? Well, because it only leads to more drama. It does effect how gentlemen view you and it can be the deciding factor as to if someone will choose to see you or not. So, in the end it's best to just shut up. I've learned that. Or maybe I am just becoming more mature with each passing year. LOL.

Same goes for the gentlemen, if a lady sees you post drama, or unneeded remarks regarding or towards another, we may decide that you are not someone we would like to share our time with. There are a few guys here at usasg that post and based on what I have read by them, if they were to contact me regarding an appointment, I would decline. If you lack respect, or if you are a guy who likes to post anything and everything, you aren't someone I wish to see. Yes, sometimes money just isn't worth it.

Let's all be nice and enjoy the time of giving and happiness.

In the season of giving:

There is a giving tree in the mall for the salvation army. The next time you are there, grab one and go buy something for a child who needs it. Or just drop a small gift / toy into one of those boxes at the department / grocery stores.

I sometimes spend money on ridiculous things and I'd much rather give a few bucks or a toy to a child. I'll feel good knowing I am helping to provide smiles to that kid at Christmas time.

Happy Holidays to All,

Dawn

**Member #4335** · 12-03-12 11:02

[QUOTE=HelpMeRhonda; 1611273]Ok I do not normally post alot, but this is something that I feel needs to be addressed. Upon scheduling a client, I asked for a ref, was given a few names, after contacting the women given, I decided to schedule the gentleman to find out later he was contacted by the provider questioning him as to why he was seeing someone else? I have no

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I don't "completely agree". I DO agree that the client should never be called or questioned! That is an absolute! Also I don't think it's ok to contact a client first anyway, only in reply! With that out the way I don't agree with variety being the main reason here or that we should except it in anyway, the only reason I say that is because of health reasons, safety reasons, etc. Personally if I see a client has left a review for every Asian massage parlors grand opening, he will always be told I'm booked, if I see a client has left more than 2 reviews on seperate girls after seeing me, I will also sit him on the back burner. Most client don't give you their handles out but I can usually tell if good detail is givin on a review of me whom wrote it, I also have had clients on this site mention at their nxt visit that a client on here wrote things that he has done in a very unsafe way, they will suggest I not see that client and also thro in there that they won't see a girl who sees the guys who play dirty. Even for girls like me who don't offer full service or massage with no extras, you can't give a massage with rubber gloves on an hand sanitizer only goes so far. But like I said! Every client has a right to choose, an no provider should EVER question a client! I am only saying for myself, an a few clients who have mentioned other clients that there is ALOT of us who don't like the idea of those who can't find a good one an stay there, if the clients needs change or the provider stops delivering the required results, or for clients who have a favorite girl in each field, I do hav a client or few whom I'm their masseuse yet they have a girl they see for needs I can't fulfill, they have a girl in different states they frequent, now obviously this is different. They are welcome to see others on that issue, I also never tell the bouncing client that I'll nvr see thm I only say I'm booked. I would nvr hurt anyone's feelings or make them feel judged because its not for those reasons, it's purely for safety on my self an my other clients. If a client bounces too much in one field an gets HOT, or starts being watched, he could lead LE to a girl who was UTR simply by playing the field too much. But again, nvr question them, nvr judge them, but do look out for yourself. Hope this opinion won't offend no one.

**MollyDaniels** · 12-02-12 03:43

Originally Posted by HelpMeRhonda [View Original Post]

Ok I do not normally post alot, but this is something that I feel needs to be addressed. Upon scheduling a client, I asked for a ref, was given a few names, after contacting the women given, I decided to schedule the gentleman to find out later he was contacted by the provider questioning him as to why he was seeing someone else? I have no issues with my clients seeing someone else, variety is what this is about. We are not married and our clients shouldn't have to explain why they are seeing someone new. I have never came across this before, everyone I have ever contacted has been very good about giving a ref, as it should be. No need for our clients to get questioned, if they want to try someone else, in my mind there shouldn't be a problem. Ok my rant for the day.

Happy hunting everyone, stay safe and keep it fun!

Rhonda

I totally agree Rhonda-this is unacceptable behavior. If the client wanted to see that provider in the first place, they would have called her first. I have also heard numerous complaints from clients about unsolicited calls / texts to clients from provider (s) asking the client to 'come see them, to make and appointment, etc. ' And I have heard that this is happening to clients that the provider has never even seen before thru pms, emails, etc. First of all, some clients may be married, attached, etc. And do not need to explain random texts / calls / etc. And this is a buyer's market-if that person wants to see you, then they will call. This is NOT a business set-up for random telemarketing-all it does it show how desperate that provider is for business, either because business is slow, the provider is high-volume and extremely money-hungry, or that they have a horridly expensive drug addiction to fill.

Just my rant for the day. Maybe after two rants, I need to STFU LOL.

Thanks for listening.

Kisses,

MMD

**HelpMeRhonda** · 12-01-12 15:25

Ok I do not normally post alot, but this is something that I feel needs to be addressed. Upon scheduling a client, I asked for a ref, was given a few names, after contacting the women given, I decided to schedule the gentleman to find out later he was contacted by the provider questioning him as to why he was seeing someone else? I have no issues with my clients seeing someone else, variety is what this is about. We are not married and our clients shouldn't have to explain why they are seeing someone new. I have never came across this before, everyone I have ever contacted has been very good about giving a ref, as it should be. No need for our clients to get questioned, if they want to try someone else, in my mind there shouldn't be a problem. Ok my rant for the day.

Happy hunting everyone, stay safe and keep it fun!

Rhonda

**MollyDaniels** · 11-30-12 18:31

So are we going back to provider vs. Provider antagonism?

If one provider chooses to run her enterprise in a way that is different than yours, it shouldn't matter. It's their choice.

So many caustic remarks makes me think that business must be slow, and the aggravation is showing on the forums.

Never fear-hopefully we will all be nicey-nice after the strain of the holidays is over.

Until then, happy holidays to all, gent's-go bust some nuts, and ladies, rack in that cash!

Kisses,

MM

**Lugnutz** · 11-30-12 18:31

Originally Posted by SmlqqKing [View Original Post]

In the words of Jim Rome, have a take and don't suck! I've amazed by the boards depth and breath of information if we keep to Jim Rome's wisdom the forum with be a better place any suggestion on where to post on perfomers who have gone south?

In terms of having a better board, is a satisfactory explanation of why smlqqking at one point this year dismissed Candice as having herpes sores and then later said he'd given her a try and found her to be OK, with a definite suggestion that he'd never seen her before.

And just to be clear here, I do not mean to validate the original accusation regarding herpes, because I have no idea whatsoever whether it's true.

The other question that comes to mind is why smlqqking at times in the past appeared to be semi-literate at best and now suddenly has discovered the ability to write intelligibly.

These are all frankly mysteries to me, but I'm pretty sure he hasn't personally added much to the quality of discourse on this board.

**Chasbot** · 11-30-12 15:04

Originally Posted by SmlqqKing [View Original Post]

Its like the great lyricist, Marshall Bruce Mathers III, a. K. A. EMIN&398; M.

Look, if you had one shot, one opportunity.

To seize everything you ever wanted in one moment.

One screw up on this board, capitalist or consumer the forum any possible trust diminsishes.

The reason is as honest and straightforward, USA is at its core is about great content combined with earning great references. Sharing openly, honestly and adding value to our experiences with content is far more likely to produce happy returns on our investment in the form of networking, reputation, references and customers than staying closed and secretive. Participation in a ecosystem almost always yields more value than hoarding secret discoveries, particularly when those same secrets are being shared elsewhere on a gigantic, relatively level playing field.

But let's say you're completely unfamiliar with the field. You need secondary cues signals that help you sort the wheat from the chaff. I love watching patterns, this site follows a marvelous statistical pattern which is called a confidence curves, yeah google it if you wish but I will give you the cliff notes version. It basically shows that the longer you are in a group the higher your confidence with members thus potentially the higher the number of referrals.

To boil it down two thoughts trustworthy and untrustworthy. Deception as a rule always leaves clues behind of its true nature. Deceptive self-presentations online will leave linguistic traces in the textual portion of the your messages. These traces include both nonconsciously leaked cues and strategic cues; however, they are largely unavailable to people trying to detect deception, you wasnt to believe in the myth. Where do I think I fall on the confidence curve? Not everyone does and they should. It's just like looking in the mirror or being able to lay your head down on the pillow at night with a clear conscience.

It begins with treating your members as the most important person on this forum. Yet this past day I have had had two cancel meetings with me for today and tomorrow. Yes, the first thing I checked was my breath and BO! Some did not even bother to call they just sent an email. I guess my time is not worth as much as theirs. The time I set aside for these meetings is time that I can be doing real work. So instead I did paperwork today and got on the phone to set up some more appointments for tomorrow.

The best part is that two of these that cancelled have been after me to get them into new clients, tell my fellow members about them Now I ask you, can I honestly refer them in good faith to anyone? I mean honestly! Each time they cancel or reschedule a meeting don't they know they are losing creditability with me! Or don't they care?

Dude, Jim Rome is an egomaniac! Why would you want to be him?

**SmlqqKing** · 11-30-12 05:48

Thoughts this may help newbies

**SmlqqKing** · 11-30-12 03:19

Originally Posted by SmlqqKing [View Original Post]

In the words of Jim Rome, have a take and don't suck! I've amazed by the boards depth and breath of information if we keep to Jim Rome's wisdom the forum with be a better place any suggestion on where to post on perfomers who have gone south?

Its like the great lyricist, Marshall Bruce Mathers III, a. K. A. EMIN&398; M.

Look, if you had one shot, one opportunity.

To seize everything you ever wanted in one moment.

One screw up on this board, capitalist or consumer the forum any possible trust diminsishes.

The reason is as honest and straightforward, USA is at its core is about great content combined with earning great references. Sharing openly, honestly and adding value to our experiences with content is far more likely to produce happy returns on our investment in the form of networking, reputation, references and customers than staying closed and secretive. Participation in a ecosystem almost always yields more value than hoarding secret discoveries, particularly when those same secrets are being shared elsewhere on a gigantic, relatively level playing field.

But let's say you're completely unfamiliar with the field. You need secondary cues signals that help you sort the wheat from the chaff. I love watching patterns, this site follows a marvelous statistical pattern which is called a confidence curves, yeah google it if you wish but I will give you the cliff notes version. It basically shows that the longer you are in a group the higher your confidence with members thus potentially the higher the number of referrals.

To boil it down two thoughts trustworthy and untrustworthy. Deception as a rule always leaves clues behind of its true nature. Deceptive self-presentations online will leave linguistic traces in the textual portion of the your messages. These traces include both nonconsciously leaked cues and strategic cues; however, they are largely unavailable to people trying to detect deception, you wasnt to believe in the myth. Where do I think I fall on the confidence curve? Not everyone does and they should. It's just like looking in the mirror or being able to lay your head down on the pillow at night with a clear conscience.

It begins with treating your members as the most important person on this forum. Yet this past day I have had had two cancel meetings with me for today and tomorrow. Yes, the first thing I checked was my breath and BO! Some did not even bother to call they just sent an email. I guess my time is not worth as much as theirs. The time I set aside for these meetings is time that I can be doing real work. So instead I did paperwork today and got on the phone to set up some more appointments for tomorrow.

The best part is that two of these that cancelled have been after me to get them into new clients, tell my fellow members about them Now I ask you, can I honestly refer them in good faith to anyone? I mean honestly! Each time they cancel or reschedule a meeting don't they know they are losing creditability with me! Or don't they care?

**Thorbane** · 11-29-12 07:29

Originally Posted by SmlqqKing [View Original Post]

In the words of Jim Rome, have a take and don't suck! I've amazed by the boards depth and breath of information if we keep to Jim Rome's wisdom the forum with be a better place any suggestion on where to post on perfomers who have gone south?

Just had posted to workinghard about being in the escort only section talking smack about the providers. It like what the fuck you got nothing better to do with you life then come on here and talk shit. And like what he gods gift to women? If that the case why does he come here to this board. But at a loss right now on way to improve the boards.

**SmlqqKing** · 11-29-12 02:01

In the words of Jim Rome, have a take and don't suck! I've amazed by the boards depth and breath of information if we keep to Jim Rome's wisdom the forum with be a better place any suggestion on where to post on perfomers who have gone south?

**JohnGalt10** · 11-26-12 11:50

No experience personally but will miss the intel. To be in this business for decades and not one run in with LE is quite an accomplishment. Stealth instincts will be missed. Hope he changes mind but if not, happy and long retirement,UTR. JG

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**BeardlyWizard** · 11-21-12 04:48

Originally Posted by Sinful Dreams [View Original Post]

Sweetie I have one. It's my name. I can't post it because it gets seen as an ad. But it's Sinful Dream all together. Com Thanks for the compliments hun.

Ally

I figured as much. I'll definately be checking it out!