Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[Hillbilly Bob]

I think I've finally figured out that one of the reasons I struggle meeting new quality providers is because I have it backwards. I'll preface this with I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

I have always approached it from my perspective, which is a) I'm older, have no desire to be a stud and dick women down anymore, I rarely last 20 minutes anyhow b) I figure the best way to test the water is start with the hhr and if it's a wash then I'm out less money, if it's all good then book again.

That may work for some but why would the well reviewed women that I've reached out and got crickets after initial contact jump at a hhr slot when the guys giving these great reviews are standing in line for hour sessions and more.

I guess I need to get off my cheap ass and book hour sessions and see if that wards off the crickets!

Not sure I can agree with you. Lot of the providers would rather do the HH over. EE girls get $120 to $150 HH, 200 to 250 Hour. They do HH take HH break another HH get 240 to 300 for their time. Just my two cents.

[ThatGuy011]

I guess if you only have one in you than go for hhr. I like msog.

I had to look up msog. I figured m was multiple.

So it turns out you can see some forum posts elsewhere where providers basically complaining that they hate msog. And it actually seems to be for the same reasons I don't want multiple. They don't want a guy to pop in 10 minutes, and then have to work on it for the next 45 for the second.

Same here, even if still hard after first, a second pop takes so long that it becomes work for myself.

[Branman]

Have tried hitting up a few girls on here lately but have gotten nothing just crickets. I get that some girls are busy and are seeing others but just a simple text message saying not available right now but I am able to do this day and / or time instead. Don't get what's so hard about that.

[JustTry]

If the girls are jumping at the longer sessions over a short one, then I don't consider it my loss. I am a suck and fuck kind of person. I don't want idle chat, I don't want GFE, I want to finish one time, and that's it. I'm only booking HHR, what are we going to do for that second HHR? The choices are act like a boomer, and try to act like we're good lovers engrossed in conversation for HHR, and report back how smart she is, and how she's really my friend. Or I can leave 20-25 minutes early while paying the full HR rate, which is what they hope for.

I guess if you only have one in you than go for hhr. I like msog.

[ThatGuy011]

If the girls are jumping at the longer sessions over a short one, then I don't consider it my loss. I am a suck and fuck kind of person. I don't want idle chat, I don't want GFE, I want to finish one time, and that's it. I'm only booking HHR, what are we going to do for that second HHR? The choices are act like a boomer, and try to act like we're good lovers engrossed in conversation for HHR, and report back how smart she is, and how she's really my friend. Or I can leave 20-25 minutes early while paying the full HR rate, which is what they hope for.

[JustTry]

I think I've finally figured out that one of the reasons I struggle meeting new quality providers is because I have it backwards. I'll preface this with I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

I have always approached it from my perspective, which is a) I'm older, have no desire to be a stud and dick women down anymore, I rarely last 20 minutes anyhow b) I figure the best way to test the water is start with the hhr and if it's a wash then I'm out less money, if it's all good then book again.

That may work for some but why would the well reviewed women that I've reached out and got crickets after initial contact jump at a hhr slot when the guys giving these great reviews are standing in line for hour sessions and more.

I guess I need to get off my cheap ass and book hour sessions and see if that wards off the crickets!

When I first got into this I did hhr to test the waters. Now I only schedule hour or longer. Let's me enjoy the experience more and less crickets to be found. I know some guys aren't into that but I have found I am enjoying my experiences much more than several years ago when I started.

[JimJaimes]

I think I've finally figured out that one of the reasons I struggle meeting new quality providers is because I have it backwards. I'll preface this with I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

I have always approached it from my perspective, which is a) I'm older, have no desire to be a stud and dick women down anymore, I rarely last 20 minutes anyhow b) I figure the best way to test the water is start with the hhr and if it's a wash then I'm out less money, if it's all good then book again.

That may work for some but why would the well reviewed women that I've reached out and got crickets after initial contact jump at a hhr slot when the guys giving these great reviews are standing in line for hour sessions and more.

I guess I need to get off my cheap ass and book hour sessions and see if that wards off the crickets!

[Lenny6746]

Hey Bengal. One major thing. I cannot stand a provider or a Client that rips off each other. We all pay for it one way or another. If I see a provider on here that has ripped mongers off in the past I'm going to post it. Period. You may not have the balls to do it but I do! Hey Bengal go see Kaylovee and see what you get LOL. She lives on Gilbert In a run down house Go see what you get. Won't be pussy!! Oh that's right She changed her name and pic That makes it all better. Lenny6746.

[TechSticles]

A very experienced Senior or Provider needs to advise Kylie on how to be safe in the hobby. She just posted on EB the name of her incall hotel downtown. Its a location that is well known for making life very difficult for kylie like consultations. Her screening is virtually nonexistent. And its complete bull for her to allege what she it doing is legal. Selling only her time. Her EB ads list sex acts, time length and cost. Staying away from her. Sara TT is total opposite in safety.

To be fair, making a comparison with Sara TT against any of the girls in Cincy is pretty unfair. Sara may be a little older, but she's just fucking amazing. Great incall, and hasn't had an ad in years. Doesn't need one.

First post here. Found this place after nearly all the others have died or aren't worth visiting any more. Looking at you Indys.

[WanderingAbout]

A very experienced Senior or Provider needs to advise Kylie on how to be safe in the hobby. She just posted on EB the name of her incall hotel downtown. Its a location that is well known for making life very difficult for kylie like consultations. Her screening is virtually nonexistent. And its complete bull for her to allege what she it doing is legal. Selling only her time. Her EB ads list sex acts, time length and cost. Staying away from her. Sara TT is total opposite in safety.

[WhereDreamsGo]

I would agree with your downward spiral assessment for Taylor Nikole / Delicious Dawn. There are two places that I often look to for clues about their current status. 1) When they no longer make public posts on FB about how healthy they are and about how great sobriety is then maybe they have had a relapse. 2) When the clerk of courts website shows a recent warrant has been issued for parole violation stemming from their possession of heroin conviction then they have definitely had a relapse.

I's been a really long time since I've seen her, and probably will be a lot longer, but it is sad to hear. She's definitely got what it takes to be better than this, and hope that it happens eventually and she stays clean for good.

[One More Guy]

Recently a member's post about Kylie caused unneeded posts and PMs trying to find her rates. His post made me want to learn more.

It was stated in the posts that her rates were on EB. I am not a newbie to the internet and I searched EB for the ads. She has EB ads but without rates. Then someone posted that her rates were in the EB ads. They then shared a link but it was to the Alligator site.

I do not understand why people can't be more accurate with their sharing of information.

If you write a review, state the rates and an accurate link to how you connected. Without that info your review is just a Penthouse Letter, not facts but fiction.

You've posted about this before on another thread. Here's what I've learned from Escort Babylon / Listcrawler. Maybe it will be of help.

The sites appear to be affiliated, despite the different base urls. Listcrawler provides a number of filtered lists.

"Alligator" (https://escortalligator.com.cincinnati.listcrawler.com) shows all posts.

"Milfy" (https://milfy.com.cincinnati.listcrawler.com/) filters down to just posts from girls that are 30+ year old.

"Dynamite" (https://blackdynomite.com.cincinnati.listcrawler.com/) filters down to just posts from black girls.

"Reviewed" (https://escortbabylon.net/provider_l...w/cincinnati/1) filters down to just phone numbers that have reviews.

And so on.

All these sites associate posts / reviews by the phone number as the unique identifier. When a girl changes her number, she breaks this association. "Old Posts", "Reviewed" and "Comments" do not associate the old number and new number together. I assume that's why some girls leave an old number on the post profile but say within the ad to call a different number. They want to keep the association intact.

Applying this directly to Kylie, when you search Escort Babylon (aka "Reviewed") for her name, you will only find her posts that were using a number on which she had reviews because Escort Babylon already filters out phone numbers that do not have any reviews. If you search "Alligator" for her name, you'll see any posts that she put her name in. Across multiple phone numbers. These posts are ordered chronologically so you can see the most recent posts. From these hits, you can click "Read Reviews". If she changes her number, you will be able to see different sets of reviews / comments.

My plan is normally to search "Alligator" by name or by last four digits. But we know that some girls don't post a name, change their name and / or change their number. This can make it difficult to find them. Sometimes I look for somewhat unique words they use (particularly misspellings) and search on them. Sometimes it's just impossible to keep up.

In the interest of sharing information and making do with the imperfect information that we receive from the girls and fellow USA posters, hopefully this helps.

[HuntLadys29]

If the provider contacted you just prior to the appointment, and before you made up you mind to call off the date, that suggests the cancellation was at the last minute. I mean, the handful of times that providers have cancelled on me while I was driving to their incalls, I've been either disappointed or angry about it. Why wouldn't a provider be mad if a hobbyist cancels on her with little advanced notice? Anyway, you certainly got one thing right: if things fall through with one provider, there are plenty more out there. Better luck next time, I guess?

I get she can be angry, she texted me before I could text her but it was more than an hour before the date and I have things going on in my life also. It's not like she's my woman. I'm in sales I've had customers cancel their orders on me last minute out the blue lame excuse good excuse whatever I'm about the money and if a customer canceled on me and called me back a day later a week a month whatever and then canceled again and then came to see me again I'm still going to write the order. Because I'm in sales and it's commission and I'm about the money. I don't know what her deal is, but like I posted I'd only seen here twice over a 2 1/2 3 year period because I usually don't drop that amount of money on girls and I never canceled. She could be holding a grudge because I reported the smell of animals pig smell specially, idk but there's way to many women to be concerned about whether I can see Taylor Nicole or not. LOL. I was just posting my experience. HL29.

[AdamP469]

So I reached out to Taylor Nicole I hadn't seen her in a while mainly because her rates are a little more than I care to pay, but I had some extra so I set up an appointment. Now my living situation is different from when I started posting on here. The young lady I'm with is versed in all these men games. (she's been screwed over a lot) she has been on me she really believes I'm knee deep in the hobby which I actually have had just a few inconsequential dates over the past year she saw some text awhile back and won't let it go. I'm off today and now she wants to sex pushing me about if I'm going to do her or one of my as she says hoes. I took her to work and decided to call the date with Taylor Nicole off when I got home Taylor had already texted asking if we were still on. I texted back that I couldn't and explained the situation as best I could even apologized twice. She text back you're blocked told me I was a consistent offender to her. First off I've seen her twice in about 2 plus years second things come up things happen the last time I saw this woman is when she had the pig and her house smelled like Porkys Farm. I started to explain to her again then I thought about it who does she think she is? And I let her know with a big F#k you. I never ever called off on her nor have I stood her up the times I did see her everything went smoothly. Idk some of these women act like they have the only punani out there and things can't come up. Sorry guys I should have put this in the rants section but since I don't post as much I kind of forgot. HL29.

If the provider contacted you just prior to the appointment, and before you made up you mind to call off the date, that suggests the cancellation was at the last minute. I mean, the handful of times that providers have cancelled on me while I was driving to their incalls, I've been either disappointed or angry about it. Why wouldn't a provider be mad if a hobbyist cancels on her with little advanced notice? Anyway, you certainly got one thing right: if things fall through with one provider, there are plenty more out there. Better luck next time, I guess?

[Willow1535]

She goes back to the BD days. Looks like she hasn't aged well.

Saw this on aff also. Looked fake.