Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

**Dick Morehead** · 09-13-21 18:29

Originally Posted by BengalMan [View Original Post]

Hillbilly I respect your knowledge of pussy and providers. The idea of "facts"? Huh?

You are saying that Hillary murdered someone. What??

You are saying Biden murdered someone. What??

That type of nonsense is what lost me with the party. And here's a fact, I'm not a left wing. Far from it.

No big loss to the party asshole! Put your frigging blindfold back on. Are you serious? When you look up 'liar' and 'evil' I the dictionary there are multiple pics of Hillary. If her lips are moving she is lying, how stupid are you Bengal Man? As far as Biden is concerned you are a stupid MF!

**D Nut** · 09-13-21 18:05

Originally Posted by DickMorehead [View Original Post]

Here is what she said in those meetings "I did not murder those people". She learned that phrase from Bill LOL.

Weren't you paying attention? According to Hillbilly Bob, there's a, "difference in kill in action an murdered by working with terrorist". So if people die because you worked with a terrorist, you're a murderer.

**GoodWill123** · 09-13-21 17:58

Football Sunday, I'm sitting with a bunch of my friends, some of them ex-military, law enforcement, and even former border patrol. This topic came up. Crime is the "worst they've ever seen", their words, not mine. And they do this for a living.

Below is a collage of recent articles from 2021, mostly the Summer of 2021, just recently. VIOLENT crimes hit the HIGHEST they have ever been in 2021. Keep in mind two things: Journalism is always PIT (point in time). Secondly, it's a function of what gets reported. I read where 14% of police force (average) have either early retired or resigned this year due to the BS they've had to put up with. So less arrests in some cites, equals less reported, simply because they can't address it all. But in their words, it's increasing. Just though these facts below might help, for anyone interested in this subject. Anyway, appreciate the original post.

CRIME 2021:

Denver crime up 22% in June since last year: So far, 2021 is looking even worse: https://kdvr.com/news/local/denver-c...nce-last-year/.

Chicago's most violent weekend of 2021:104 shot, 19 of them killed. 13 kids among the wounded: https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2...e-gun-violence.

Chicago Gun Violence: 461 Shootings Reported in July, Up 15% From Last Year: https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...-year/2575176/.

Murder rate soars in Los Angeles. The 179 homicides in the first six months of the year is the highest total in more than a decade: https://xtown.la/2021/07/16/murder-rate-soars/.

Deadly 4th of July Weekend: More than 230 people fatally shot in shootings over the Fourth of July weekend: https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/05/us/us...end/index.html.

No question about it': Providence police officials say city is seeing a spike in violent crime: https://www.boston.com/news/local-ne...violent-crime/.

NYPD: Shootings up 166%, fueling NYC crime surge: https://www.news10.com/news/ny-news/...c-crime-surge/.

New York's Crime Wave: Murders are poised to drop below 2020 levels soon. But there and elsewhere, violence is still a lot worse than before the pandemic: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...ns-of-breaking.

US Homicides continue to rise 2021: Report: Homicides Continue to Slowly Rise in the USA, While Other Violent Crime Rates Decline: https://time.com/6086558/us-homicide...t-crime-rates/.

Originally Posted by VinnieKramer [View Original Post]

I'm merely presenting facts, and the fact is crime is down over the last 30 years or so. The original post claimed crime was increasing.

Given that most crimes are prosecuted at the state and local level, the president has little to do with the rate. State level programs are the driver, from laws being written to policing through to prosecution. The number of people incarcerated in state prisons is 10 X the number of federal prisons.

**Vilnius** · 09-13-21 17:56

Originally Posted by Holdrhem [View Original Post]

You hit the nail on the head! I would never pay for porn but on 2 separate occasions I found on IG hot ass tenants that had OF pages. It was a small price to pay to have videos of girls that I fantasize about whenever I see them.

It's like being a voyeur jacking off to something you should not be able to see. Also you can find out if they escort without the embarrassment of being turned down and outed.

I dream daily of this. No dice yet LOL.

**Dick Morehead** · 09-13-21 12:27

Originally Posted by BengalMan [View Original Post]

The party loonies jerked off to every one of those hearings shouting "Benghazi" every time they nutted! Oddly, they jerked off even MORE when Hillary was being interrogated?! I thought the loonies didn't like Hillary? Oh well, I guess everyone has their favorite jerk off fantasies, guess for loony crazy republicans it's Hillary in a pantsuit.

Here is what she said in those meetings "I did not murder those people". She learned that phrase from Bill LOL.

**BengalMan** · 09-13-21 06:50

Originally Posted by DNut [View Original Post]

Example: Benghazi. That was just a GOP fantasy porno. But they spent 4 years, using 9 (Nine!) committees, at one point interrogating Hillary Clinton for 24 hours, and found bupkus. Zero. Zilch. Nada, a big ol' fat goose egg.

The party loonies jerked off to every one of those hearings shouting "Benghazi" every time they nutted! Oddly, they jerked off even MORE when Hillary was being interrogated?! I thought the loonies didn't like Hillary? Oh well, I guess everyone has their favorite jerk off fantasies, guess for loony crazy republicans it's Hillary in a pantsuit.

**Holdrhem** · 09-13-21 06:15

Originally Posted by DNut [View Original Post]

The popularity of OF isn't based on what you see. It's based on WHO you see. Most of the followers of OF girls, with the exception of bona fide celebrities (Bella Thorne, for example), are people these girls know in real life. Customers aren't paying to see tits. They are paying to see tits that they've hugged before, but never got to see. They pay to see the ass that they've only seen behind the bar at the local tavern. I can see tits any time I type, "tits" on my phone. But they won't be the tits that was being kept out of sight by that tight Bengals shirt of the girl my girlfriend brought along with that extra ticket we had. Girls can post on Reddit, or on SB sites, or on Escort sites all they want, that they have an OF page. But there's no better promotion that finding out that the girl that just bent over to serve me and my buddies drink, I can see her and all her glory, for less than the price of 3 beers at the bar.

It's the deal with the devil these non-celebrity girls make. Are you okay with people you personally know, knowing what you look like naked, and potentially have these photos of you at their fingertips to bust a nut over? They're the main client base, not the one or two strangers that happened to have come across your page, pun intented.

You hit the nail on the head! I would never pay for porn but on 2 separate occasions I found on IG hot ass tenants that had OF pages. It was a small price to pay to have videos of girls that I fantasize about whenever I see them.

It's like being a voyeur jacking off to something you should not be able to see. Also you can find out if they escort without the embarrassment of being turned down and outed.

**D Nut** · 09-12-21 21:08

Originally Posted by ToddCincy [View Original Post]

I'm also thinking that the OF customer base is different, too. I personally have very little interest in paying for photos and videos. I haven't paid for porn or photos for *years*.

Speaking of which, the OF girls are competing with free. The hub sites seem to have just about everything, from vintage porn to rough gangbangs. It's hard to imagine how the OF girls can compete with that.

Also: Thanks, Bam, for putting a post in this thread that did not include the words "Biden" or "Trump".

The popularity of OF isn't based on what you see. It's based on WHO you see. Most of the followers of OF girls, with the exception of bona fide celebrities (Bella Thorne, for example), are people these girls know in real life. Customers aren't paying to see tits. They are paying to see tits that they've hugged before, but never got to see. They pay to see the ass that they've only seen behind the bar at the local tavern. I can see tits any time I type, "tits" on my phone. But they won't be the tits that was being kept out of sight by that tight Bengals shirt of the girl my girlfriend brought along with that extra ticket we had. Girls can post on Reddit, or on SB sites, or on Escort sites all they want, that they have an OF page. But there's no better promotion that finding out that the girl that just bent over to serve me and my buddies drink, I can see her and all her glory, for less than the price of 3 beers at the bar.

It's the deal with the devil these non-celebrity girls make. Are you okay with people you personally know, knowing what you look like naked, and potentially have these photos of you at their fingertips to bust a nut over? They're the main client base, not the one or two strangers that happened to have come across your page, pun intented.

**Todd Cincy** · 09-12-21 20:37

Originally Posted by BamBam [View Original Post]

I am cross-posting this from the Escort thread to get additional perspectives.

I do some small business consulting and take a professional interest in how these things work. I have chatted with some women who are successful on OF. I typically catch them when they visit a sugar site trying to generate interest in their OF page. There are women in our area making $2-10 K+ per month with it. As with a lot of things, there is a power curve at work with a small percent of the women making the vast bulk of the money. However, these were not women who left an escort site. It is usually women who started in the cam world. Or who join OF as an alternative to being a sugar baby. Some of migrated from trying to do something similar on IG. The ones who earn the most are usually the ones who look the best.

The ones who are good at OF treat it as a job. They are putting in 5-6 hours a day, or more, creating and posting content. They also have to work their SM sites daily like a trapper working his trap lines. They need to post teaser content and cajole people in their DM's to give it a try. They lure men from Tinder to IG to Twitter and then to OF. They need a presence on Snap, Tinder, Twitter, IG and sometimes a few others like ManyVids. They have to post on OF about three times a day and they have to check frequently for special requests. They watch the sites of other women looking for ideas for new content. Most guys have no idea how hard it is to come up with fresh ideas, new costumes and new activity to avoid repetition.

The math is not as easy as some people make it sound. At a $20 subscription price, they need 100 steady customers to make $2 K. That's before the site takes its 20% cut. However, those men are fickle. Some are always leaving and new ones must be added. They can supplement the subscriptions by taking special requests but those take a lot of time that cannot be leveraged with the other subscribers. In short, OF is a business and takes an entrepreneurial spirit and approach to make money doing it. People who say OF has reduced the supply of other sex workers have to assume that these same women have the drive, energy, ambition and organizational skill to pull it off. I am skeptical.

BAM.

I'm also thinking that the OF customer base is different, too. I personally have very little interest in paying for photos and videos. I haven't paid for porn or photos for *years*.

Speaking of which, the OF girls are competing with free. The hub sites seem to have just about everything, from vintage porn to rough gangbangs. It's hard to imagine how the OF girls can compete with that.

Also: Thanks, Bam, for putting a post in this thread that did not include the words "Biden" or "Trump".

**BamBam** · 09-12-21 16:37

I am cross-posting this from the Escort thread to get additional perspectives.

I do some small business consulting and take a professional interest in how these things work. I have chatted with some women who are successful on OF. I typically catch them when they visit a sugar site trying to generate interest in their OF page. There are women in our area making $2-10 K+ per month with it. As with a lot of things, there is a power curve at work with a small percent of the women making the vast bulk of the money. However, these were not women who left an escort site. It is usually women who started in the cam world. Or who join OF as an alternative to being a sugar baby. Some of migrated from trying to do something similar on IG. The ones who earn the most are usually the ones who look the best.

The ones who are good at OF treat it as a job. They are putting in 5-6 hours a day, or more, creating and posting content. They also have to work their SM sites daily like a trapper working his trap lines. They need to post teaser content and cajole people in their DM's to give it a try. They lure men from Tinder to IG to Twitter and then to OF. They need a presence on Snap, Tinder, Twitter, IG and sometimes a few others like ManyVids. They have to post on OF about three times a day and they have to check frequently for special requests. They watch the sites of other women looking for ideas for new content. Most guys have no idea how hard it is to come up with fresh ideas, new costumes and new activity to avoid repetition.

The math is not as easy as some people make it sound. At a $20 subscription price, they need 100 steady customers to make $2 K. That's before the site takes its 20% cut. However, those men are fickle. Some are always leaving and new ones must be added. They can supplement the subscriptions by taking special requests but those take a lot of time that cannot be leveraged with the other subscribers. In short, OF is a business and takes an entrepreneurial spirit and approach to make money doing it. People who say OF has reduced the supply of other sex workers have to assume that these same women have the drive, energy, ambition and organizational skill to pull it off. I am skeptical.

BAM.

**D Nut** · 09-12-21 15:28

Originally Posted by DNut [View Original Post]

Example: Benghazi. That was just a GOP fantasy porno. But they spent 4 years, using 9 (Nine!) committees, at one point interrogating Hillary Clinton for 24 hours, and found bupkus. Zero. Zilch. Nada, a big ol' fat goose egg.".

Correction. 14 hours. I don't want to get accused of lying because of a typo. Just wanted to get it on record.

**BengalMan** · 09-12-21 14:48

Originally Posted by HillbillyBob [View Original Post]

Just facts you have to understand the difference in kill in action an murdered by working with terrorist. But you left wing won't understand real facts.

Hillbilly I respect your knowledge of pussy and providers. The idea of "facts"? Huh?

You are saying that Hillary murdered someone. What??

You are saying Biden murdered someone. What??

That type of nonsense is what lost me with the party. And here's a fact, I'm not a left wing. Far from it.

**D Nut** · 09-12-21 11:26

Originally Posted by HillbillyBob [View Original Post]

Just facts you have to understand the difference in kill in action an murdered by working with terrorist. But you left wing won't understand real facts.

I'll bite. So, please explain it then, in detail. Provide the who, what, when, where, and how. Be sure to state facts, not suppositions based on suspicions, based on guess work, based on a GOP wishful thinking wet dream.

Example: Benghazi. That was just a GOP fantasy porno. But they spent 4 years, using 9 (Nine!) committees, at one point interrogating Hillary Clinton for 24 hours, and found bupkus. Zero. Zilch. Nada, a big ol' fat goose egg.

So, please explain, (and I am just copying here) " the difference in kill in action an murdered by working with terrorist".

**Hillbilly Bob** · 09-11-21 21:11

Originally Posted by BengalMan [View Original Post]

Hillbilly, that was some Ignorant post. Damn, dude, stick to hookers instead of worshipping trump and defiling anyone in the other party. Fuck. "Murder"? The Hillary nonsense was cooked up by crazies crazier than Rudy, and of course, Joe strapped the bomb on the Isis suicide terrorist. Fuck. This is exactly what's wrong with my party, why can't we be sane and intelligent as a Republican??

Just facts you have to understand the difference in kill in action an murdered by working with terrorist. But you left wing won't understand real facts.