JungleWarrior in Clearwater

[R Consultant]

JW wasn't playing well with others that is why Jackson gave him a second chance in his own thread and not to be so argumentative, when everyone is after the same thing.

Happy Hunting..

The fact you have your own category and are only a regular member is puzzling, JW. Maybe the forum admin is trying to contain a virus.

Anyway, I didn't see any hidden cameras when I was there, but maybe things changed. Ivy is ok with being photographed or videotaped during a session, if that's what you mean, I've seen the proof myself.

Speaking for myself, I prefer to donate to single mom's who are just trying to stay ahead, rather than have my donation go to someone's drug or gambling habit. So I would care and since it's my $, it's my business who I donate to.

[Johnson1970]

You might want to cut your source off because your source is wrong. Rumors of hidden cameras?

who cares who she gives her money to? how is that anyones business?

JW OUT.

The fact you have your own category and are only a regular member is puzzling, JW. Maybe the forum admin is trying to contain a virus.

Anyway, I didn't see any hidden cameras when I was there, but maybe things changed. Ivy is ok with being photographed or videotaped during a session, if that's what you mean, I've seen the proof myself.

Speaking for myself, I prefer to donate to single mom's who are just trying to stay ahead, rather than have my donation go to someone's drug or gambling habit. So I would care and since it's my $, it's my business who I donate to.

[JungleWarrior]

You may recall,

I posted a while back that Ivy was affiliated and run by Josh (who we all remember) and that I received the information from a source I considered reliable. You may also recall that there were strong rumours of hidden cameras in her incall.

I cannot provide proof of either, but my source is reliable enough for me. She is a hottie and Id love to see her, but alas it is not to be.

Nemo

You might want to cut your source off because your source is wrong. Rumors of hidden cameras? Ivy has been reviewed on numerous sites, including here, and this is the first time ANYONE (besides yourself) has mentioned hidden cameras in her incall location, let alone HINTED about rumors of hidden cameras. No offense

Not sticking up for Ivy (I have had 2 sessions with her and she is a sweetheart) but if she does have a pimp (which i doubt it), as long as it does not affect her performance, who cares who she gives her money to? If Erotic Eve or Heather Deangelo or Janna Jones or other well known providers around here gave their money to a pimp, how is that anyones business?

JW OUT.

[Milfman]

I am in agreement with "R" I would have to say that the majority of mongers on this board have well enough paying jobs to be choosy since this particular hobby is far from cheap to be involved in. As for the thinking we own the pink or they owe it to us I think your a little off. The majority of the providers a monger deals with have little or no self esteem and are doing whatever they can to make money to support whatever habit they may have or whatever requirement their agency may have to keep them in the country. If they feel the need to charge more than their worth they will soon find themselves either desperate since very few will pay it or exported since client visits will drop off.

As a patron of such establishments I have found over the years that if you stop visiting or walk in then out of a provider due to who is working, then the problem fixes itself either because the provider can not survive on the income if they are independent, or the business fires them due to lack of production. When it comes down to it their job is sales and if they charge more than the market will bare for their particular product weather it be due to attitude or lack of quality then either the product and or marketing strategy needs to change or the market will run them out. No one forced them into this line of work and last I heard McDonald's is still hiring. In summation, if your a provider and you don't like the average mongers attitude or what they are willing to pay then you have three options;

1) Find another business

2) Adjust your attitude and or price to what the market demands

3) Starve!

If you think this is not the case call the CEO of Coca Cola what happened to New Coke and Classic Coke.

Here is an explanation why that happened:

Back in the days (the old days), street prostitutes came in 2 categories, ugly or somewhat attractive. The ugly ones would charge 20 a HJ, and 40 a BJ. The somewhat attractive ones (which they were) and who knew they were more desirable than the ugly ones, decided they would never stoop to 40 a BJ, because a HJ from them alone costs 60 at least (basically a stuck up attitude thinking they are all that). When you offered her 40 a HJ, she took it as a "I'm not one of those ugly ones" kinda price range response. That's why she demanded 60. You insulted her in her opinion, because again, as I said you offered her a ugly girl rate and her stuck up attitude about her looks demanded 60 at that point.

Now to play devils advocate, you are a guy, so as all guys, we feel like god put that pink thing they posses on this earth for our enjoyment, let alone women to service us. That male chest beating feeling of thinking we own women. So here's the problem. As a guy, you feel she should naturally service you for free because she is a woman and you are a guy. The fact you have to pay for it, now pisses you off in theory but you will pay for it.

Going to AMPs has now shifted from going to street prostitutes like back in the old days, to get handjobs and blowjobs in dark "New York" like alleyways. Its no different. We are just doing it in a more secure location instead of a dark alley

Naturally this girl will go through life, not realizing she is, was, and always be stuck up and her shitty attitude will lead to her demise. But at the same time, we as guys need to realize if we are going to pay for it, we need to get over our attitude of thinking every woman in this industry owes us her pussy just because we have a little cash to spend.

If the bare minimum in this case was 40 and you came back and tipped the bare minimum everytime you saw her, because the girl went above and beyond to make you happy each time hoping for a tip and you never do ever tip, well eventually they develop a "I already know he won't tip me attitude" and give you lousy service. Its no different than going to the same restaurant every weekend, getting the same waiter, and tipping him the bare minimum of 18% gratuity each time. He will give you the old "that focker is here, focking A man" attitude

You have to give a little to get a little.

[R Consultant]

Since we all read the ads and so forth, have you ever thought that most of us disciplined ourselves and went to college or have learned a trade or what have you. That enabled us to have a disposable income. I think we should expect superior service when you know dam well these woman can't earn 40-80-200 bucks in 30-60 minutes in any other manner at all.

Most of these ladies are just drop-outs or drug addicted chicks who have no reality of what life is. No responsibility at all towards themselves besides partying and living hotel from hotel. I'm sure a few of them do provide for a family or something but they are scarce.

So in reality if they don't do a great job the first time why even waste your coin on a chick that doesn't meet your expectation or a waiter or anyone for that matter?

Happy Hunting..

Here is an explanation why that happened:

Back in the days (the old days), street prostitutes came in 2 categories, ugly or somewhat attractive. The ugly ones would charge 20 a HJ, and 40 a BJ. The somewhat attractive ones (which they were) and who knew they were more desirable than the ugly ones, decided they would never stoop to 40 a BJ, because a HJ from them alone costs 60 at least (basically a stuck up attitude thinking they are all that). When you offered her 40 a HJ, she took it as a "I'm not one of those ugly ones" kinda price range response. That's why she demanded 60. You insulted her in her opinion, because again, as I said you offered her a ugly girl rate and her stuck up attitude about her looks demanded 60 at that point.

Now to play devils advocate, you are a guy, so as all guys, we feel like god put that pink thing they posses on this earth for our enjoyment, let alone women to service us. That male chest beating feeling of thinking we own women. So here's the problem. As a guy, you feel she should naturally service you for free because she is a woman and you are a guy. The fact you have to pay for it, now pisses you off in theory but you will pay for it.

Going to AMPs has now shifted from going to street prostitutes like back in the old days, to get handjobs and blowjobs in dark "New York" like alleyways. Its no different. We are just doing it in a more secure location instead of a dark alley

Naturally this girl will go through life, not realizing she is, was, and always be stuck up and her shitty attitude will lead to her demise. But at the same time, we as guys need to realize if we are going to pay for it, we need to get over our attitude of thinking every woman in this industry owes us her pussy just because we have a little cash to spend.

If the bare minimum in this case was 40 and you came back and tipped the bare minimum everytime you saw her, because the girl went above and beyond to make you happy each time hoping for a tip and you never do ever tip, well eventually they develop a "I already know he won't tip me attitude" and give you lousy service. Its no different than going to the same restaurant every weekend, getting the same waiter, and tipping him the bare minimum of 18% gratuity each time. He will give you the old "that focker is here, focking A man" attitude

You have to give a little to get a little.

[JungleWarrior]

That's Eileen. She has been around for a few years. She used to give a GREAT toplees sensual massage. Then, I heard for the past year or so she dropped the sensual part.

I can confirm that. I saw her a couple months ago. She is strictly legal. Give one hell of a massage though. Highly recommend for 75$

[JungleWarrior]

I went to the Aloha Spa off of Ulmerton and met Connie. She's young, short, not bad looking, has small but decent size tits for a thin gal. The massage was ok. After the flip she offered everything, but I only wanted a HJ. She said ok, but wouldn't take less than 60. I said what? Usually I only pay 40 for that, but there are a few girls out there who want more. So I paid her 60 and she finished, but the whole session she seemed uninterested in making me as happy as possible. She was basically just going thru the motions, but was nice and polite. My last few trips to AMPs have been similarly mediocre. I'm starting to consider spending my $ on other options, even though I do like AMPs.

Here is an explanation why that happened:

Back in the days (the old days), street prostitutes came in 2 categories, ugly or somewhat attractive. The ugly ones would charge 20 a HJ, and 40 a BJ. The somewhat attractive ones (which they were) and who knew they were more desirable than the ugly ones, decided they would never stoop to 40 a BJ, because a HJ from them alone costs 60 at least (basically a stuck up attitude thinking they are all that). When you offered her 40 a HJ, she took it as a "I'm not one of those ugly ones" kinda price range response. That's why she demanded 60. You insulted her in her opinion, because again, as I said you offered her a ugly girl rate and her stuck up attitude about her looks demanded 60 at that point.

Now to play devils advocate, you are a guy, so as all guys, we feel like god put that pink thing they posses on this earth for our enjoyment, let alone women to service us. That male chest beating feeling of thinking we own women. So here's the problem. As a guy, you feel she should naturally service you for free because she is a woman and you are a guy. The fact you have to pay for it, now pisses you off in theory but you will pay for it.

Going to AMPs has now shifted from going to street prostitutes like back in the old days, to get handjobs and blowjobs in dark "New York" like alleyways. Its no different. We are just doing it in a more secure location instead of a dark alley

Naturally this girl will go through life, not realizing she is, was, and always be stuck up and her shitty attitude will lead to her demise. But at the same time, we as guys need to realize if we are going to pay for it, we need to get over our attitude of thinking every woman in this industry owes us her pussy just because we have a little cash to spend.

If the bare minimum in this case was 40 and you came back and tipped the bare minimum everytime you saw her, because the girl went above and beyond to make you happy each time hoping for a tip and you never do ever tip, well eventually they develop a "I already know he won't tip me attitude" and give you lousy service. Its no different than going to the same restaurant every weekend, getting the same waiter, and tipping him the bare minimum of 18% gratuity each time. He will give you the old "that focker is here, focking A man" attitude

You have to give a little to get a little.

[JungleWarrior]

Well for everyone reading this, for any ter staff that may read this and especially for cheka who may read this, I did see her and the woman that I saw is not the one pictured on her web site. Hair is different, body shape is different. The big thing for me is that the legs do not match. The images look to me like a somewhat tall and slender woman with long slender legs. The woman I saw was short and a little on the pudgy side. Stretch marks and some pretty small and droopy tits. Guess the airbrush is a wonderful thing!

I am not sure why you think it is not her. Hair styles change. Body shape...i don't know what you mean by that. Its the same woman...granted the photos are about a year and a half if not 2 years old, but Cheka is the one in the photos. Not saying the photos were not airbrushed but none of her photos are misleading. I think if you look at her websites photos and compare them with her new ad photos, you will see its the same body, just maybe a slightly diff hair style.

my 2 cents. keep the change.

[Sir Eptishes]

Who are you talking about here? the best I can come up with is that you might be talking about Lil Bit that used to run up in clearwater (not to be confused with St. Pete's Lil Bit). If this really is the Lil Bit that I remember from a couple years back, I'd love for one of you to tell me how to find her. Please describe this gal better... (Jungle Warrior - it appears that your original message is missing so I couldn't track it back).

Thanks!

And a little more expensive than the one who roamed Clr/Largo Road a few years ago. This LB is way better IMO and very much like a high school cheerleader. You'll pay twice as much as sw rates(or more), but she's more
like a bp hottie. Only been doing this for about a year and rarely ever walks.

[JungleWarrior]

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Censorship at its finest. Highly doubt that stating an opinion that a certain forum member obviously has a hidden agenda is considered a threat.

Hi JungleWarrior,

Apparently you missed an important day in civics class, so let me enlighten you.

"Freedom of Speech" is a constitutional protection of a citizen's right to speak out against the government, and as such it is a restriction on government activities attempting to curtail this right.

However, this forum is a private enterprise, and as such I cannot be compelled to publish whatever you choose to post, much in the same way as the New York Times cannot be compelled to publish every letter you might choose to send to their editor.

What I do in my forum is not called censorship, it's called editing, and it is a necessary function and the responsibility of every publisher who wishes to maintain an organized publication.

Thanks,

Jackson

[Member #1658]

Who are you talking about here? the best I can come up with is that you might be talking about Lil Bit that used to run up in clearwater (not to be confused with St. Pete's Lil Bit). If this really is the Lil Bit that I remember from a couple years back, I'd love for one of you to tell me how to find her. Please describe this gal better... (Jungle Warrior - it appears that your original message is missing so I couldn't track it back).

Thanks!

Originally Posted by JungleWarrior
She isn't out much these days but I did call her last night and meet back up with her, even though I said I wasn't going to, just to see if my luck with CBJ was just a 1 time thing or what.

When I picked her up and took her back to a notel, before we got into the room, she asked if I had a condom. Told her we aint doing this with a condom this time. Started off. I don't do anything without a condom. Told her bs, I talked to a few people and you are BBBJ thru and thru. She said, oh, BJ's yeah, I thought you meant sex? She knew I was only giving her 40.

Anyways ended up with BBBJ and 20 more upgrade for cover FS. BBBJ was really good. And she can deepthroat surprising for her small little stature. I made sure the python hit the back of her throat repeatedly as I shoved herr head down the pole and watched it disappear.

For 60, shes worth it. Sorry can't give out digits per her request. Did ask her about terry though. Guess terry left to go back "home", wherever that is?

[Sir Eptishes]

It is sad and pathetic 1 individual has to continue to bad mouth a shop and now wants to make up stuff about a certain shop girl providing services outside the shop, specially bb services. Guys becareful what you read on here, certain people have hidden agendas.

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Hidden agendas in nearly every place you go? I wonder if the Florida Bar Association expects its' attorneys in good standing to disclose their various affiliations? Let's say hypothetically an attorney was performing legal services for the owner of a massage parlor. Especially if said counselor was remunerated with services from attractive female attendants? Well this is all just hypothetical of course? Govern yourself accordingly, counselor. I'm certain you have nothing to worry about?

[JungleWarrior]

It is sad and pathetic 1 individual has to continue to bad mouth a shop and now wants to make up stuff about a certain shop girl providing services outside the shop, specially bb services. Guys becareful what you read on here, certain people have hidden agendas.

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[Lolligagger]

She isn't out much these days but I did call her last night and meet back up with her, even though I said I wasn't going to, just to see if my luck with CBJ was just a 1 time thing or what.

When I picked her up and took her back to a notel, before we got into the room, she asked if I had a condom. Told her we aint doing this with a condom this time. Started off. I don't do anything without a condom. Told her bs, I talked to a few people and you are BBBJ thru and thru. She said, oh, BJ's yeah, I thought you meant sex? She knew I was only giving her 40.

Anyways ended up with BBBJ and 20 more upgrade for cover FS. BBBJ was really good. And she can deepthroat surprising for her small little stature. I made sure the python hit the back of her throat repeatedly as I shoved herr head down the pole and watched it disappear.

For 60, shes worth it. Sorry can't give out digits per her request. Did ask her about terry though. Guess terry left to go back "home", wherever that is?

I was with her again this weekend....I'm ready to marry her asss . LoL!

[Peter Rammer]

Under the Florida Penal Code, it is illegal to loiter for the purposes of prostitution, to solicit someone for the purpose of prostitution, and to engage in the act of prostitution. Both the alleged prostitute and the alleged patron of said prostitute can be prosecuted under Florida state law.

When deciding to arrest someone for loitering for the purpose of committing prostitution, soliciting prostitution, or the actual act of prostitution, LEO will use several factors to try and prove that someone had the intent of actually engaging in the conduct they are being arrested for. Some of the factors they look for are, large bills, condoms in your car in a KNOWN prostitution and drug area, your car being previously pulled over and given a warning that it is being MARKED and if you return and engage in such suspicious activity, you will be arrested next time for loitering.

When deciding to arrest an alleged customer of a prostitute, LEO will watch whether you drove by the area several times, if you stopped and had a conversation with the alleged prostitute, if she got in your car, if you parked the car and went to a motel, etc.

Used by leo is quite simply deception and intimidation. They are permitted to lie to you in the course of an investigation. Never, never, ever admit that you intended to engage in any illegal act whatsoever! Unless you (or the lady you are with) tell them or are caught in the act, proof of your intentions is virtually impossible! They will ALWAYS tell you that if you are truthfull with them everything will be ok. From their perspective it will be ok. But form yours no way! If you admit you picked up a lady intending to do something illegal with her, you will be arrested. Probably 99% of the mongers nailed either were caught by a decoy, caught in the act or admitted to something illegal.

On 8/15/2008 Vanessa and her momentary bf were stopped by Largo po po.
Vanessa told po po he was a friend giving her a ride. The monger bf got scared and told po po he picked her up to have sex. He also told po po where his stash of weed was hidden in his truck. Because he panicked, they were both booked at around 9:34pm. Moral of the story is don't admit illegal intentions ever! Sure the cops would have known Vanessa was a prostitute.
But you don't have to give them the evidence to prove your intentions. Don't admit shit!

Also we need to be very aware of our surroundings and who might be watching us. If you focus entirely on a hottt lady, you might miss below the radar po po? Don't make yourself too noticable in your fishing expeditions.