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[HuntingStreets]

No, if you are simply arrested, they do NOT have the right to search your cell phone right away. They need a warrant to do this. In 2014, there were two cases that went to the Supreme Court that dealt with this very specific issue. In both Riley vs California and United States vs Wurie, the police arrested the defendants, and during a search incident to that arrest, the police seized each defendant's cell phone that was located on their person. Evidence of gang and weapons activity was discovered on Riley's phone, after police looked through text, photographs, and videos. In Wurie, police searched the defendant's phone finding he had received multiple calls from "my house. " They accessed the call log, traced it to the defendant's apartment, and then searched the apartment, finding drugs and firearms. Both defendants were convicted. The California Court of Appeals upheld Riley's conviction, but the First Circuit Court of Appeals overturned Wurie's conviction.

The USA Supreme Court heard both cases together, and in a 9-0 opinion, held that the police generally may not, without a warrant, search digital information on a cell phone seized from an individual who has been arrested. Just because they have the tools to do it, doesn't make it legal without a warrant.

Furthermore, this past summer, the Supreme Court ruled that police must obtain a search warrant to access an individual's cellphone location information. They can't simply go to a cell phone provider and ask for tower data-they need a warrant. While that decision may limit the government's access to cellphone data, it has no impact on the ability of private companies to amass, use and sell their customers' information. That is because the Fourth Amendment only limits government conduct, not private conduct. Only Congress, in enacting legislation, can limit how private companies amass and use information.

Hope you find this information useful and there is clarification on this matter.

Good stuff. Thanks for sharing your knowledge so in depth.

HS.

[AngryBob]

It's going to be interesting to watch. The tech is nothing new, here's some stuff from 2012 and 2013.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zdn...nt-hint-a-lot/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tkcL3MUoTN4

Those both relate to felony offenses. I know there was another more recent article about LEO downloading phone data after accidents to see if either driver was texting while driving, but I can't find it.

I think the big challenge will be if they can do it for something like a minor traffic stop and will they take the time to scour messages for hints of illegal activity? I'm guessing for the most part it's not going to be something to worry about on a day to day basis.

No, if you are simply arrested, they do NOT have the right to search your cell phone right away. They need a warrant to do this. In 2014, there were two cases that went to the Supreme Court that dealt with this very specific issue. In both Riley vs California and United States vs Wurie, the police arrested the defendants, and during a search incident to that arrest, the police seized each defendant's cell phone that was located on their person. Evidence of gang and weapons activity was discovered on Riley's phone, after police looked through text, photographs, and videos. In Wurie, police searched the defendant's phone finding he had received multiple calls from "my house. " They accessed the call log, traced it to the defendant's apartment, and then searched the apartment, finding drugs and firearms. Both defendants were convicted. The California Court of Appeals upheld Riley's conviction, but the First Circuit Court of Appeals overturned Wurie's conviction.

The USA Supreme Court heard both cases together, and in a 9-0 opinion, held that the police generally may not, without a warrant, search digital information on a cell phone seized from an individual who has been arrested. Just because they have the tools to do it, doesn't make it legal without a warrant.

Furthermore, this past summer, the Supreme Court ruled that police must obtain a search warrant to access an individual's cellphone location information. They can't simply go to a cell phone provider and ask for tower data-they need a warrant. While that decision may limit the government's access to cellphone data, it has no impact on the ability of private companies to amass, use and sell their customers' information. That is because the Fourth Amendment only limits government conduct, not private conduct. Only Congress, in enacting legislation, can limit how private companies amass and use information.

Hope you find this information useful and there is clarification on this matter.

[Anduril77]

Thank you Platypus 19. This is some scary stuff.

I got caught by my ex-wife. I didn't know my phone was linked to my iPad. She had the iPad password and decided one day to check it out, and she found texts between me and a provider. That was it for me and her.

[HuntingStreets]

Would any evidence from a cellphone hold up in court? Wouldn't they need a search warrant?

It's going to be interesting to watch. The tech is nothing new, here's some stuff from 2012 and 2013.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zdn...nt-hint-a-lot/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tkcL3MUoTN4

Those both relate to felony offenses. I know there was another more recent article about LEO downloading phone data after accidents to see if either driver was texting while driving, but I can't find it.

I think the big challenge will be if they can do it for something like a minor traffic stop and will they take the time to scour messages for hints of illegal activity? I'm guessing for the most part it's not going to be something to worry about on a day to day basis.

[Anduril77]

What's next?

https://www.whio.com/news/local/loca...FsJmOJjO04TJK/

Would any evidence from a cellphone hold up in court? Wouldn't they need a search warrant?

[ZipperSquid]

What's next?

https://www.whio.com/news/local/loca...FsJmOJjO04TJK/

[GMan25]

I wonder if she was offering any personal "counseling sessions" while she was in LaCrosse.

I think a few years ago she was in Chicago and seeing people. Way too expensive for me. So I passed. Besides, I had jerked off to her so many times I considered it as if I really had fucker her.

Only cost me $8. 95 for 5 minutes.

[BigTen]

Yes, she was quite the goer back in her day, which, of course, was my day. She also did some fantastic sex ed videos. I use some of her techniques now that get the girls to moan "Where did you learn that?" I never give Nina credit, but I should. She was also in "boogie Nights" which makes her a legitimate film star. One of the best, that's for sure.

Coochie (Love ya, Nina) Eater.

God Bless You All.

I wonder if she was offering any personal "counseling sessions" while she was in LaCrosse.

[Coochie Eater]

She was one of my first porn interests. Ah the mameries.

Yes, she was quite the goer back in her day, which, of course, was my day. She also did some fantastic sex ed videos. I use some of her techniques now that get the girls to moan "Where did you learn that?" I never give Nina credit, but I should. She was also in "boogie Nights" which makes her a legitimate film star. One of the best, that's for sure.

Coochie (Love ya, Nina) Eater.

God Bless You All.

[JamesGang41]

Looks pretty good for 59 Nice to see how those student fees are used.

https://lacrossetribune.com/news/loc...067397085.html

She was one of my first porn interests. Ah the mameries.

[DartMan]

You are of course correct. It was a knee jerk reaction to assume it was hobby related.

On the other hand kids are naturally curious. We can't even stop them from looking at GUNS when left along for 5 minutes. We can talk until we're blue in the face, but if it's somehing that makes them curious, ESPECIALLY if it looks like a toy, they're going to play with it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7fdnyvwIzg0

Sorry, it's a sore spot for me and it affected my response. So much of this big crackdown we've been seeing for the last 18 months on the South Loop is because we couldn't get the SW's to stop congregating on 23rd and Greenfield. The Church got tired of finding needles and used condoms on its property, including the front steps.

HS.

If I didn't know this was across the street from the Rave I would agree with you 100% it could be hobby related. But knowing the kind of people that go to shows there (I'm one of them) anything is possible. I agree with you on the crack down that's why I got out of the SW side of things back in late 2000's.

Stay safe out there and always follow the rules.

[HuntingStreets]

It is across the street from the Rave. Could just be some horney kids gettin it on after a concert. I banged the wife on the jungle gym of a local park during a drunkin walk home from a bar. I'm fixed so no condoms were left behind. How about we teach our kids not to put things they find on the ground in their mouths. Seems like a logical thing to do.

You are of course correct. It was a knee jerk reaction to assume it was hobby related.

On the other hand kids are naturally curious. We can't even stop them from looking at GUNS when left along for 5 minutes. We can talk until we're blue in the face, but if it's somehing that makes them curious, ESPECIALLY if it looks like a toy, they're going to play with it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7fdnyvwIzg0

Sorry, it's a sore spot for me and it affected my response. So much of this big crackdown we've been seeing for the last 18 months on the South Loop is because we couldn't get the SW's to stop congregating on 23rd and Greenfield. The Church got tired of finding needles and used condoms on its property, including the front steps.

HS.

[BigTen]

Looks pretty good for 59 Nice to see how those student fees are used.

https://lacrossetribune.com/news/loc...067397085.html

[MrMilwaukee]

It is across the street from the Rave. Could just be some horney kids gettin it on after a concert. I banged the wife on the jungle gym of a local park during a drunkin walk home from a bar. I'm fixed so no condoms were left behind. How about we teach our kids not to put things they find on the ground in their mouths. Seems like a logical thing to do.

This is a couple blocks away from my office and there is a lot of the hobby going on within a couple square blocks of the school, most of it UTR. I used to get propositioned several times a week by the same AA woman who would hang out around 26 and Wells. A previous favorite of mine lived in one of the back houses around 26 and Michigan.

[Member #5994]

Title says it all.

I want to know if anyone ordered one yet. I may just TOFTT.