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  1. #1170
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertWi69  [View Original Post]
    Saw this headline as a friend of mine has a daughter who played for the guy. The story doesn't have many details of the operation other than it was on March 28th and 5 guys were busted. Anyone have anymore info on where and how?

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/sport...ournalsentinel
    I have been dwelling on this. This guys life has been DESTROYED because he wanted companionship and was horny. Does that make him a criminal? I think NOT.

    I would FULLY support the police under four (4) conditions:

    1 - They had set this up as an underage sting. Meaning monger was responding to an ad or looking for sex from someone under the age of 18.

    2 - If there was an actual victim of HUMAN TRAFFICKING involved.

    3 - Illegal narcotics were involved.

    4 - Other criminal activity was involved IE... illiegal firearms or robbery.

    If any of those conditions existed. Then throw the book at him.

    If the HOTEL was having a problem with prostitution, why did the manager simply deny or refuse the use of the room to the handler/manager or prostitute?

    I look at it this way. What if the coach had been on a dating site. He met up with the woman at her hotel. He then took the woman to a fancy restaurant bought her a lobster dinner and drinks. They then went back to his house or her hotel and had consensual sex. Is that a crime?

    If that is a crime... then IMO then any sex that is not for the sole purpose of procreation could then be a criminal act. If we have two (2) consenting adults where is the CRIME?

    Also, doesn't this mean anyone who performs a service in exchange for cash or anything of value also guilty of a crime? Are we going to lock up plumbers, electricians, carpenters, doctors and dentists? Hell I know some employees are treated worse by their employer under worse conditions than what most prostitutes experience when they perform their job... does that mean employers are guilty of a criminal act?

    I will agree with those who said the moment he saw LE anywhere in the area of the hotel, he should have bailed. Another option would have been for him to say if this date is on the up and up... meet me at (somewhere close by) and lets have lunch, coffee, or a drink. If they bail it wasn't meant to be.

    There is NO victim or potential victim here.

    Just my 2 cents.

  2. #1169
    Quote Originally Posted by Incredulous411  [View Original Post]
    Well that sucks and is completely ridiculous the news people destroy a guy's life over something so innocent. These municipalities mostly just bust guys for the easy revenue.

    But don't be fooled, it absolutely doesn't matter even if you don't say anything more than " hi, can I come over " to a provider. Just talking to a provider or showing up will get you busted if they really want to.

    Just another great reason why I'd have never or would ever go to a girls place. If I can't pick you up and she willing gets in my car. She isn't worth it. And yes, even with that, could still get busted.
    It is illegal to offer "anything of value" (roses, $, loans) in exchange for a sex act. During a sting their goal is to get you to talk about both. With someone new you should just say you would like to meet. If they push you to say what you want to do "baby", just say you want to meet. You have not broken the law. If she continues to push you to ask for a sex act, it is probably a cop/sting. When you meet do the LE check and negotiate. If you can't come to terms, leave. If you get arrested, say nothing except, "I want an attorney because they will continue to get you to confess. That is their goal. Cops just arrest, ticket, and write a report. The DA can and likely will drop charges if you have not broken the definition of the law. Jury instructions require jurors to agree that the prosecutor has proven that definition. This guy screwed up. I have been arrested, ticketed, fingerprinted, mugshots, searched, locked up in a jail cell, my things tested for drug residue, (and I'm white) released after 6 hours, and when I met with the DA everything dropped.

  3. #1168

    Getting busted

    Quote Originally Posted by ImAnEatGuy  [View Original Post]
    This fella made the news and probably destroyed his life by visiting a "provider" in Brookfield. This article paints a pretty clear picture of what his experience looked like. The main thing that I took from this article is that he seemed to use the same texting language that I use. This is a very sobering experience.

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/sport...n/70115029007/
    Well that sucks and is completely ridiculous the news people destroy a guy's life over something so innocent. These municipalities mostly just bust guys for the easy revenue.

    But don't be fooled, it absolutely doesn't matter even if you don't say anything more than " hi, can I come over " to a provider. Just talking to a provider or showing up will get you busted if they really want to.

    Just another great reason why I'd have never or would ever go to a girls place. If I can't pick you up and she willing gets in my car. She isn't worth it. And yes, even with that, could still get busted.

  4. #1167
    Quote Originally Posted by ComMango1968  [View Original Post]
    2 in the afternoon on a school day. Unless they were on break.

    Regardless, if you see Uncle walk away. Got to shut up that little head sometimes.
    Way too many things that can go wrong with hotel incalls.

    Would be great if someone had a screenshot of the ad with pics of the cop chick decoy! Article said no face shot but wondering how much skin she was showing as "bait".

  5. #1166

    Be careful out there.

    This fella made the news and probably destroyed his life by visiting a "provider" in Brookfield. This article paints a pretty clear picture of what his experience looked like. The main thing that I took from this article is that he seemed to use the same texting language that I use. This is a very sobering experience.

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/sport...n/70115029007/

  6. #1165

    Which hotel

    Quote Originally Posted by ComMango1968  [View Original Post]
    2 in the afternoon on a school day. Unless they were on break.

    Regardless, if you see Uncle walk away. Got to shut up that little head sometimes.
    Which hotel in Brookfield? Off blue mound.

  7. #1164

    During the school day?

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertWi69  [View Original Post]
    Saw this headline as a friend of mine has a daughter who played for the guy. The story doesn't have many details of the operation other than it was on March 28th and 5 guys were busted. Anyone have anymore info on where and how?

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/sport...ournalsentinel
    2 in the afternoon on a school day. Unless they were on break.

    Regardless, if you see Uncle walk away. Got to shut up that little head sometimes.

  8. #1163

    Nothing is safe but

    I wonder if police would do a sting at these sketchy motels that a lot of these girls use and the motel / hotel staff know what's going on? If it wasn't for these providers at these motels, they would probably be losing a lot of money each day or maybe even go out of business.

    Why would to continue up to her room if there's a cop in the lobby? His little head really runs his like!!

    I bet there's more guys out there that pay to play than we think. Neighbor, cashier at the store, teachers, bus driver, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by KlewBlue777  [View Original Post]
    Here's part of the article from today's Waukesha Freeman about this sting operation:

    Police report.

    According to a report released by Brookfield police Thursday, Hansen was arrested at an unnamed hotel on March 28 after arriving there following an arrangement to meet someone for a sexual encounter arranged over a website known to be used by prostitutes to advertise their services. The incident report lists Hansen's employer as the Kettle Moraine School District. It gives his date of birth as Dec. 3, 1967; Hansen's Facebook page, with the profile picture being a photo of the gold ball 2023 state champion trophy, also listed his birthday as Dec. 3 on Thursday. The phone number for Hansen in the exchange with police provided with the report matches a number known to be connected to him.

    The report said a female Brookfield police officer and several others from Brookfield and Waukesha set up a "prostitution operation" at an unnamed Brookfield hotel on March 28, posting a photo of the female officer that didn't use her face.

    Hansen allegedly responded to the ad, asking about prices. He allegedly asked about "deep French kissing," whether the woman would require a condom, and asked for a photo of the woman, who used the name "Crystal. " When she asked for a name so she would know who was knocking at the hotel room door, he told her it was "Dan," the report said.

    Arriving at the hotel at about 2 pm March 28, the report said Hansen told the woman he was nervous after seeing a police officer in the lobby. "Well they aren't here for me," the woman replied.

    "Make me nervous to come up," Hansen said in a text exchange provided with the police report.

    "Just come on up don't act weird," the woman replied. "You're not a cop?" came the question from Hansen's phone.

    "No not the law I promise," was the reply. Police officers were reported as positioned throughout the hotel and in a bathroom of the hotel room when Hansen arrived. When he got to the designated room, after small talk about seeing the police, Hansen removed a shoe and presented money he'd kept in a sock, the report said.

    "After seeing the money and being unsure if he was going to start undressing, I indicated to the arrest team to enter from the bathroom to arrest Hansen," the report said.

    Hansen was taken to the Brookfield Police Department where he was booked and cited for a municipal violation of Brookfield's prostitution ordinance, and given a citation with a bond amount of $2,581 and a non-mandatory court date of April 24 and was released, the report said.

  9. #1162

    Brookfield sting arrests

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertWi69  [View Original Post]
    Saw this headline as a friend of mine has a daughter who played for the guy. The story doesn't have many details of the operation other than it was on March 28th and 5 guys were busted. Anyone have anymore info on where and how?

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/sport...ournalsentinel
    Here's part of the article from today's Waukesha Freeman about this sting operation:

    Police report.

    According to a report released by Brookfield police Thursday, Hansen was arrested at an unnamed hotel on March 28 after arriving there following an arrangement to meet someone for a sexual encounter arranged over a website known to be used by prostitutes to advertise their services. The incident report lists Hansen's employer as the Kettle Moraine School District. It gives his date of birth as Dec. 3, 1967; Hansen's Facebook page, with the profile picture being a photo of the gold ball 2023 state champion trophy, also listed his birthday as Dec. 3 on Thursday. The phone number for Hansen in the exchange with police provided with the report matches a number known to be connected to him.

    The report said a female Brookfield police officer and several others from Brookfield and Waukesha set up a "prostitution operation" at an unnamed Brookfield hotel on March 28, posting a photo of the female officer that didn't use her face.

    Hansen allegedly responded to the ad, asking about prices. He allegedly asked about "deep French kissing," whether the woman would require a condom, and asked for a photo of the woman, who used the name "Crystal. " When she asked for a name so she would know who was knocking at the hotel room door, he told her it was "Dan," the report said.

    Arriving at the hotel at about 2 pm March 28, the report said Hansen told the woman he was nervous after seeing a police officer in the lobby. "Well they aren't here for me," the woman replied.

    "Make me nervous to come up," Hansen said in a text exchange provided with the police report.

    "Just come on up don't act weird," the woman replied. "You're not a cop?" came the question from Hansen's phone.

    "No not the law I promise," was the reply. Police officers were reported as positioned throughout the hotel and in a bathroom of the hotel room when Hansen arrived. When he got to the designated room, after small talk about seeing the police, Hansen removed a shoe and presented money he'd kept in a sock, the report said.

    "After seeing the money and being unsure if he was going to start undressing, I indicated to the arrest team to enter from the bathroom to arrest Hansen," the report said.

    Hansen was taken to the Brookfield Police Department where he was booked and cited for a municipal violation of Brookfield's prostitution ordinance, and given a citation with a bond amount of $2,581 and a non-mandatory court date of April 24 and was released, the report said.

  10. #1161

    Her coach

    And her dad are both playing in this "hobby"? I bet there's a lot more people out there that we know that have this in common with us.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertWi69  [View Original Post]
    Saw this headline as a friend of mine has a daughter who played for the guy. The story doesn't have many details of the operation other than it was on March 28th and 5 guys were busted. Anyone have anymore info on where and how?

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/sport...ournalsentinel

  11. #1160

    Brookfield Sting 03/28

    Saw this headline as a friend of mine has a daughter who played for the guy. The story doesn't have many details of the operation other than it was on March 28th and 5 guys were busted. Anyone have anymore info on where and how?

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/sport...ournalsentinel

  12. #1159

    NB Tiffany

    Quote Originally Posted by KlewBlue777  [View Original Post]
    Here's the article form the Waukesha Freeman from Feb 20-.

    Plea deals reached for New Berlin mother, daughter in prostitution case.

    NEW BERLIN A New Berlin woman and her mother who both were charged in a prostitution case two years ago entered into plea agreements Friday that reduced the counts against them to a single misdemeanor and saw them sentenced to jail time already served.

    The Freeman isn't naming the women to protect the identity of a child of the daughter, as the initial charges against them alleged the child was a victim of neglect.

    But the child's mother, 29, and her mother, both were charged with keeping a place of prostitution, child neglect and possession of narcotics in January 2021. The younger woman also was charged with a count of prostitution.

    But both pleaded guilty Friday to a count of being party to disorderly conduct and were sentenced to time served in the case. That number was five days spent in jail for the daughter, but online court records did not indicate the number of days the mother served.

    The charges came after police used a website known to be used by escorts and arranged a meeting at the defendants' home on Mayflower Drive in January 2020, outlining a conversation the officer had with the daughter discussing prices and sexual acts offered. She was arrested by police outside of her residence; her mother denied at that time that she knew of any alleged prostitution activities there.

    Recorded calls between the mother and the daughter while the latter was in the county jail afterward show the mother asked the daughter if she was going to work as a prostitute, and a discussion where the daughter asks her mother to "save my stuff," believed to be a reference to drugs, the complaint said.
    Thanks! The last 3 words of the article were the ones I was waiting for. Guarantied that had more to do with dropping the charges than treatment did. Interesting to see it appears the mom was using as well.

    HS.

  13. #1158

    NB Tiffany

    Quote Originally Posted by DieselMike  [View Original Post]
    An interesting thing about this case is that there don't seem to be any news articles about it. I've google-searched a couple of times and came up with nothing. No real "need to know" just idle curiosity and I'm quite OK with those that do know keeping the info to themselves.
    Here's the article form the Waukesha Freeman from Feb 20-.

    Plea deals reached for New Berlin mother, daughter in prostitution case.

    NEW BERLIN — A New Berlin woman and her mother who both were charged in a prostitution case two years ago entered into plea agreements Friday that reduced the counts against them to a single misdemeanor and saw them sentenced to jail time already served.

    The Freeman isn't naming the women to protect the identity of a child of the daughter, as the initial charges against them alleged the child was a victim of neglect.

    But the child's mother, 29, and her mother, both were charged with keeping a place of prostitution, child neglect and possession of narcotics in January 2021. The younger woman also was charged with a count of prostitution.

    But both pleaded guilty Friday to a count of being party to disorderly conduct and were sentenced to time served in the case. That number was five days spent in jail for the daughter, but online court records did not indicate the number of days the mother served.

    The charges came after police used a website known to be used by escorts and arranged a meeting at the defendants' home on Mayflower Drive in January 2020, outlining a conversation the officer had with the daughter discussing prices and sexual acts offered. She was arrested by police outside of her residence; her mother denied at that time that she knew of any alleged prostitution activities there.

    Recorded calls between the mother and the daughter while the latter was in the county jail afterward show the mother asked the daughter if she was going to work as a prostitute, and a discussion where the daughter asks her mother to "save my stuff," believed to be a reference to drugs, the complaint said.

    On March 17,2020, police were summoned to the house when the daughter suffered a suspected heroin overdose. The complaint said police administered three doses of Narcan to revive the unconscious woman; when police arrived, her 3-year-old daughter was reportedly playing with caps to syringes that were at the child's bare feet.

    Police also learned the woman's mother was aware of alleged prostitution activities — both within their home as the father of the household worked third shift and on "outcalls" in the metro area — as well as drug related activities for both their personal use, the complaint said. Police had phone records of several conversations where it was said the mother would open the door for suspected "johns" and even talk with them, where it appeared the mother went to pick up drugs including heroin and cocaine, the complaint said.

    Calls to attorneys for the women were not returned Friday.

    District Attorney Sue Opper said the reasons for amendment of the charges was the treatment that both women had been engaged in.

    "This case has been going on about two years and both have done substantial (alcohol and other drug) treatment and other treatment," Opper said. "It's not unusual when you see cases of prostitution there is oftentimes underlying issues causing the behavior and we were satisfied by addressing these behaviors we won't have repeat issues. They earned the lesser charge based on compliance with treatment and bail conditions and cooperating with police. ".

  14. #1157

    No news

    Quote Originally Posted by BodyShopper  [View Original Post]
    Would you post the news article? It's not against the forum rules to post links to news articles, even if they contain the girls' names.
    An interesting thing about this case is that there don't seem to be any news articles about it. I've google-searched a couple of times and came up with nothing. No real "need to know" just idle curiosity and I'm quite OK with those that do know keeping the info to themselves.

  15. #1156
    Quote Originally Posted by BodyShopper  [View Original Post]
    Would you post the news article? It's not against the forum rules to post links to news articles, even if they contain the girls' names.
    I don't have an article to link to. I know her real name so I've been following the case on CCAP.

    HS.

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