Ripoff Reports

[BigEmz00]

Dreamt about being in town for the weekend. Got in contact with a few, this one was getting back quick. Got the location, drove the block a couple times and parked. Waited, just curious as some of you scope it out first. Sure enough, I say "be there soon". Guy and boy walk out as she's talking to them, they go around the back of the house. Come back about 5 minutes later with a gardening / fencing stick. I got out of there but as I did, he looked and tapped the stick on the concrete as an intimidation move. The sad part is, the guy with stick was probably no older than 35 but the other one with him was a kid, couldn't have been older than 9. Stay safe 215.

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[TrippinTB]

Fantastic advice but the last paragraph and what you would do just sucks you further into drama, involves what could be perceived as criminal acts, and places you at personal and legal risk. If I have to physically confront someone or if the police or lawyers have to get involved, I consider that a losing outcome. When things go that sour, escape and evade make more sense.

I understand your position and don't blame you for taking it. We all have different risk thresholds. Some seek to escape the situation as quietly as possible (minimize risk). There are times when I would chose this path. Other times, and ALWAYS based upon the evaluated risks, I choose to flip the script. This path is not for everyone. However, when ladies pull this kind of stuff and get away with it, they are rewarded. When they try it and it goes bad for them, they think twice before trying it with he next guy.

At the very least, escape quietly and report the rip off. This board can do wonders for educating the hobbyists and can create an informal boycott. When her business dries up, she has the choice to move out of the business or move out of the area.

Just like premature ejaculation is to be avoided, never go off half-cocked in your response to the situation. Be prepared and take action that you can live with.

Thanks for stating the risks in my approach, BooRadley. Open sharing of information and positions that differ allow us all to become more educated and successful in the hobby.

TrippinTB.

[HornyGuy Lif]

Well, she says she's leaving town because she's been blacklisted and isn't getting any calls. Hotels are impossible this week.

I haven't got my money or been compensated alternatively!! So lose-lose!!

Just goes to show the power usasexguide has to destroy the business of are. O. b. 's. Really sorry to hear you got nothing at all out of the deal after she promised to make it right. She really is a scammer. The least she could of done was a lousy car date for you. That would have been better than absolutely nothing. Probably could of been worse. You never know what you could be walking into.

[Member #6005]

Fantastic advice but the last paragraph and what you would do just sucks you further into drama, involves what could be perceived as criminal acts, and places you at personal and legal risk. If I have to physically confront someone or if the police or lawyers have to get involved, I consider that a losing outcome. When things go that sour, escape and evade make more sense.

I agree. In the time I've been doing this, I've had three straight up ripoffs. And none of those amounted to anything other than the loss of the donation. (Which I routinely squander anyway.).

So, yeah, when I get ripped off my primary focus is on leaving safely without drawing attention.

[BrunoMadison]

Well, she says she's leaving town because she's been blacklisted and isn't getting any calls. Hotels are impossible this week.

I haven't got my money or been compensated alternatively!! So lose-lose!!

http://madison.skipthegames.com/fema...e/315046222132

[BooRadley72]

Well, she says she's leaving town because she's been blacklisted and isn't getting any calls. Hotels are impossible this week.

I haven't got my money or been compensated alternatively!! So lose-lose!!

Once a scammer. Most of these girls are habitual liars, thieves, sociopaths. They know it, we know it.

[Dan Madison]

Well, she says she's leaving town because she's been blacklisted and isn't getting any calls. Hotels are impossible this week.

I haven't got my money or been compensated alternatively!! So lose-lose!!

[Howard5354]

Fantastic advice but the last paragraph and what you would do just sucks you further into drama, involves what could be perceived as criminal acts, and places you at personal and legal risk. If I have to physically confront someone or if the police or lawyers have to get involved, I consider that a losing outcome. When things go that sour, escape and evade make more sense.

Sometimes you are the windshield other times the bug. Just cut your loses and move on, don's look back. You win some, lose some.

[BooRadley72]

First, never part with your cash before playtime. If you do, assume it is a loss. If you actually get to enjoy playtime, consider that a bonus and expect it will never happen again. Use this approach even with ladies you have seen before. Conditions change and a good one can flip on you at any time. When she said she wanted to give it to someone for safe keeping, I would have told her that I'll keep it safe until we are done. If she balks at it, I tell her that she doesn't trust me, so now I don't trust her. I ask for my money back (saying I don't see ladies I don't trust) and tell her I'll leave. If she doesn't want to give it back, I tell her to give it back, NOW. Then, I leave with my money.

Second, always be prepared for things going wrong. Think through what you will do BEFORE you go in. Consider how you will handle potential cash & dash scenarios and what to do to block or counter-act them. What will you do if someone bursts in during session? What will you do if the provider does not want to fulfill parts of the agreement during the session? What about if she chooses to rush you? Everyone has their own approaches and tolerance levels for risk. When you read the forums (and I recommend doing so for cities other than your own) about fellow mongers' bad experiences, think about what you would do if it happened to you. It allows you to formulate a response plan that is consistent with your risk tolerance instead of reacting in the heat of the moment (and regretting it later).

Third, this lady stole your money and has not returned it or fulfilled her end of the agreement. Even after she refunds your money or provides service, you aren't "even". If you got that treatment from a hotel (refund your money later but can't stay here tonight OR keep your money and you can stay some other night), you would not be happy. So, additional reparations are needed to restore good faith in that hotel. This is no different. Deferred service or getting money back later still is poor customer service. Despite her "situation" or promises to make things "right", mongers are entitled (and I would encourage them) to steer clear until she demonstrates that she DESERVES to be trusted. I never advocate being cruel and hateful, but sob stories, promises, and tears are not "bankable".

Finally, here's how I would have handled the situation once she sent the text telling you she'd meet you in a nearby hotel. I'd immediately scour her room for any and everything of value that is portable. Then I would put it all in a bag (s) or pillow case (s). I'd walk out to my car and drive to a nearby parking lot. I'd then text her that it's no problem to meet at the hotel. I'd also add that I'll bring the things (list the stuff you have with you like clothes, jewelry, shoes, make-up, electronics, etc) that she asked me to bring before she left. Now, she has a choice to make. She can work it out where she trades the money for her belongings or ghosts you and has to buy new stuff. If she ghosts you, you can sell or donate the items to recoup some of your loss. One critical factor is the text to state she asked you to bring the stuff. If you have to deal with the police (highly unlikely), it's nice "evidence" in your favor to dispute theft. Also, if the room wasn't really hers (but someone she knows), you have "proof" she asked you to bring the things to her at the hotel. If her friend contacts you about her stuff, tell her friend she can have them back for your donation amount or to get the money from the cash & dash thief. Remember, stay calm and maintain the upper hand.

Hope some of you find this helpful.

TrippinTB.

Fantastic advice but the last paragraph and what you would do just sucks you further into drama, involves what could be perceived as criminal acts, and places you at personal and legal risk. If I have to physically confront someone or if the police or lawyers have to get involved, I consider that a losing outcome. When things go that sour, escape and evade make more sense.

[BrunoMadison]

That is a good looking girl!

Yeah, until she rips you off. Put her out to the curb. We don't need this shit.

[HornyGuy Lif]

Pics are accurate. Very good looking.

Yeah, but don't forget she may be waiting to steal your money LOL.

[TrippinTB]

Very surprising. Still can't believe it happened to me and that too with Kayla!!

I had seen her 2 weeks ago. She offered incall at her Fitchburg apartment. Everything went well until I handed over the donation. She said she wanted to give it to someone for safekeeping and asked me to wait in her room.

15 minutes later got a text to meet her at a hotel in the neighborhood!! Damn! She dashed off with my donation.

I texted her saying I was upset. She replied that she could come and meet me if I got a room!! Can't trust her anymore!! Looks like she's turned to ripping us off. Be careful if you do plan to see her!!

http://madison.skipthegames.com/fema...e/055997934456

First, never part with your cash before playtime. If you do, assume it is a loss. If you actually get to enjoy playtime, consider that a bonus and expect it will never happen again. Use this approach even with ladies you have seen before. Conditions change and a good one can flip on you at any time. When she said she wanted to give it to someone for safe keeping, I would have told her that I'll keep it safe until we are done. If she balks at it, I tell her that she doesn't trust me, so now I don't trust her. I ask for my money back (saying I don't see ladies I don't trust) and tell her I'll leave. If she doesn't want to give it back, I tell her to give it back, NOW. Then, I leave with my money.

Second, always be prepared for things going wrong. Think through what you will do BEFORE you go in. Consider how you will handle potential cash & dash scenarios and what to do to block or counter-act them. What will you do if someone bursts in during session? What will you do if the provider does not want to fulfill parts of the agreement during the session? What about if she chooses to rush you? Everyone has their own approaches and tolerance levels for risk. When you read the forums (and I recommend doing so for cities other than your own) about fellow mongers' bad experiences, think about what you would do if it happened to you. It allows you to formulate a response plan that is consistent with your risk tolerance instead of reacting in the heat of the moment (and regretting it later).

Third, this lady stole your money and has not returned it or fulfilled her end of the agreement. Even after she refunds your money or provides service, you aren't "even". If you got that treatment from a hotel (refund your money later but can't stay here tonight OR keep your money and you can stay some other night), you would not be happy. So, additional reparations are needed to restore good faith in that hotel. This is no different. Deferred service or getting money back later still is poor customer service. Despite her "situation" or promises to make things "right", mongers are entitled (and I would encourage them) to steer clear until she demonstrates that she DESERVES to be trusted. I never advocate being cruel and hateful, but sob stories, promises, and tears are not "bankable".

Finally, here's how I would have handled the situation once she sent the text telling you she'd meet you in a nearby hotel. I'd immediately scour her room for any and everything of value that is portable. Then I would put it all in a bag (s) or pillow case (s). I'd walk out to my car and drive to a nearby parking lot. I'd then text her that it's no problem to meet at the hotel. I'd also add that I'll bring the things (list the stuff you have with you like clothes, jewelry, shoes, make-up, electronics, etc) that she asked me to bring before she left. Now, she has a choice to make. She can work it out where she trades the money for her belongings or ghosts you and has to buy new stuff. If she ghosts you, you can sell or donate the items to recoup some of your loss. One critical factor is the text to state she asked you to bring the stuff. If you have to deal with the police (highly unlikely), it's nice "evidence" in your favor to dispute theft. Also, if the room wasn't really hers (but someone she knows), you have "proof" she asked you to bring the things to her at the hotel. If her friend contacts you about her stuff, tell her friend she can have them back for your donation amount or to get the money from the cash & dash thief. Remember, stay calm and maintain the upper hand.

Hope some of you find this helpful.

TrippinTB.

[Member #6005]

Looks like Kayla has rebranded herself as Sydney. Can anyone confirm? Looks like her.

http://madison.skipthegames.com/fema...e/315046222132

Pics are accurate. Very good looking.

[RawlSocket]

Looks like Kayla has rebranded herself as Sydney. Can anyone confirm? Looks like her.

http://madison.skipthegames.com/fema...e/315046222132

That is a good looking girl!

[HornyGuy Lif]

More like she is doing damage control since she realized she screwed up. If you meet her again, take nothing in with you.

Yeah she's definitely in damage control mode trying to salvage her business or lack thereof. Sounds like her phone went silent after what she had done. And the word got out what she had done. Her whole story sounds fishy as hell. I mean take your money leave the apartment and leave you standing there like an idiot please. It was a ripoff plain and simple and now she's sorry that no one is calling. If it had not been reported she would keep on doing it to other guys. And yeah she could of owned someone who wanted payment NOW or she was that desperate for a fix. Caution is the word always with any of these chicks cause you never know.