Ripoff Reports

[BurlyFish]

See if you can get her to agree to an outcall. She says she's by the Kwik Trip. Is there only one Kwik Trip in the Dells? She says she doesn't have a car and no money for a cab. But maybe if she senses there's enough interest, she'll bite. And travel to Madison. And none of those out calls will pan out. LOL.

Chances are she is at the Malibu Inn that is not to fat from the Kwik Trip in Lake Delton. Doubt she would do any outcall seeing as her boyfriend needs to hide under a bed and help her try to rob people. She never replied to my return message but I did not push it to far and was kinda busy last night to play around with them.

[Flagrant]

Reported her / him a couple months ago and had some help getting the posting they made removed from STG. Here is the new scam add do not trust this person they will try to rob you. Have half I mind to pay them another a visit just to say hello.

https://madison.skipthegames.com/fem...9/547641335105

Can not believe she / he is dumb enough to send a picture with returned message from the number (608) XXX-3879.

Hey, I hope that you seen that I am in the Dells & that's okay? If so here are my rates; $150 for 45 mins w / 2 pops (instead of just the 30 mins & 1 pop) & $250 for an hour & 30 mins w / unlimited pops (instead of just the hour & 1 pop). I do offer both bareback & anal, but they are either $30 extra each or $50 for both. If you do the $250 deal & want to do both of them ($300) I'll up our time by a half hour with no extra charge.

My original encounter.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sear...archid=7397354

See if you can get her to agree to an outcall. She says she's by the Kwik Trip. Is there only one Kwik Trip in the Dells? She says she doesn't have a car and no money for a cab. But maybe if she senses there's enough interest, she'll bite. And travel to Madison. And none of those outcalls will pan out. LOL.

[BurlyFish]

Reported her / him a couple months ago and had some help getting the posting they made removed from STG. Here is the new scam add do not trust this person they will try to rob you. Have half I mind to pay them another a visit just to say hello.

https://madison.skipthegames.com/fem...9/547641335105

Can not believe she / he is dumb enough to send a picture with returned message from the number (608) XXX-3879.

Hey, I hope that you seen that I am in the Dells & that's okay? If so here are my rates; $150 for 45 mins w / 2 pops (instead of just the 30 mins & 1 pop) & $250 for an hour & 30 mins w / unlimited pops (instead of just the hour & 1 pop). I do offer both bareback & anal, but they are either $30 extra each or $50 for both. If you do the $250 deal & want to do both of them ($300) I'll up our time by a half hour with no extra charge.

My original encounter.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sear...archid=7397354

[Flagrant]

https://madison.skipthegames.com/fem...n/887974168177

Will offer you whatever you want for a reasonable rate. Then offer to do a video call for half upfront as a deposit. Will take your money and claim she never got it and then ghost you. You habe been warned. Good luck.

Thanks for the warning. I think one of the most consistent pieces of advice you'll find on this forum is never prepay. Never.

[Flagrant]

Wet weekend fun: 26 years old.

https://madison.skipthegames.com/fem...n/816082475406

This ad caught my attention:

https://madison.skipthegames.com/fem...y/801489636212

No pics, but she sends these when asked:

[Kazmocon]

https://madison.skipthegames.com/fem...n/887974168177

Will offer you whatever you want for a reasonable rate. Then offer to do a video call for half upfront as a deposit. Will take your money and claim she never got it and then ghost you. You habe been warned. Good luck.

[Flagrant]

Well thought out! Also: I've been to places that charge extra for an additional person. With your plan; monger meets girl, gets the room and then lets her in the side door. BTDT.

The only place I know that does that in Madison is the place that used to be a Motel 6 right by Denny's on East Washington. They changed names. Not sure what it is now. But I hate that fucking place. LOL.

[Flagrant]

Well thought out! Also: I've been to places that charge extra for an additional person. With your plan; monger meets girl, gets the room and then lets her in the side door. BTDT.

Like most well thought out plans, they don't come out of thin air. Imagine I've made (or at least gotten close enough to fear) all the mistakes my elaborate protocol is designed to prevent. LOL.

[DieselMike]

I tend to want to meet a girl before getting a room. But I also don't want her at the front desk checking in with me. For various reasons: The clerk might ask my name. Forcing me to awkwardly hope handing over my driver's license is sufficient. And then hoping they're not dumb enough to repeat my name back to me. Also, if she's present at check in, it creates an option for her to later swing by the front desk (after our date, after I've left) and ask for a room key, with the idea that the clerk might remember her in association with my check in and room. And so forth.

So if we meet at a hotel with restricted entry and I'm pleased with what I see, I'll ask her to wait outside or somewhere far away from the front desk while I check in. If she's not cool with that, I can easily bail. I haven't committed to the room yet. And I haven't committed to the date yet. There's nothing preventing me from walking away.

Well thought out! Also: I've been to places that charge extra for an additional person. With your plan; monger meets girl, gets the room and then lets her in the side door. BTDT.

[Flagrant]

That would probably work. Typical notel though: What if two mongers arrange back to back appointments? Double money for the girl, right? Except one monger, preferably strapped, hangs loose close by while the other takes care of business and then they switch off. Would like to see the look on the girl's face when the rip crew doesn't show!

Would be nice to know which one of the local lovelies ripped the guy.

Totally.

This sort of straight up ripoff has happened to me maybe 5 or 6 times. You hand over the money, thinking the fun is about to start. Instead, there's the old knock on the door, girl opens the door, dude walks in, asks you to bounce. Out of 400+ encounters over nearly 10 years.

And in all of those bad experiences, no one laid a hand on me. So I was out $150 or so. My pride was hurt. And I adjusted my protocol to try to minimize the probability in the future.

Do you try to stop her from opening the door? Now you've escalated the violence. Where does that end? Maybe best case scenario, you're packing, they're not, and you're prepared to kill. Good luck explaining your situation to the cops.

Best approach is to avoid this nonsense. LOL.

Barring that, stick with providers that are well reviewed. My problem is I like variety, I like the hunt. I like the prospect of finding some fresh young thing.

Of course, that happens about as often as the ripoffs. LOL.

Anyway, I can't imagine the overhead of the buddy system given that level of risk.

[DieselMike]

True. But the upside is you can go down to lobby to meet and if she's not to your satisfaction, bail, without revealing the room.

That would probably work. Typical notel though: What if two mongers arrange back to back appointments? Double money for the girl, right? Except one monger, preferably strapped, hangs loose close by while the other takes care of business and then they switch off. Would like to see the look on the girl's face when the rip crew doesn't show!

Would be nice to know which one of the local lovelies ripped the guy.

[Flagrant]

True. But the upside is you can go down to lobby to meet and if she's not to your satisfaction, bail, without revealing the room.

I tend to want to meet a girl before getting a room. But I also don't want her at the front desk checking in with me. For various reasons: The clerk might ask my name. Forcing me to awkwardly hope handing over my driver's license is sufficient. And then hoping they're not dumb enough to repeat my name back to me. Also, if she's present at check in, it creates an option for her to later swing by the front desk (after our date, after I've left) and ask for a room key, with the idea that the clerk might remember her in association with my check in and room. And so forth.

So if we meet at a hotel with restricted entry and I'm pleased with what I see, I'll ask her to wait outside or somewhere far away from the front desk while I check in. If she's not cool with that, I can easily bail. I haven't committed to the room yet. And I haven't committed to the date yet. There's nothing preventing me from walking away.

[Flagrant]

Problem with that approach, besides being more expensive, is you can't just wait in the room for the provider to show up.

True. But the upside is you can go down to lobby to meet and if she's not to your satisfaction, bail, without revealing the room.

[Sanctimonious6]

Get a room at a hotel with restricted entry (where you need a room key to access the stairwell or elevators). It's more expensive usually.

Problem with that approach, besides being more expensive, is you can't just wait in the room for the provider to show up.

[Flagrant]

Unfortunate, yes, and cops being cops, he may end up getting fucked twice.

Edit to add: guy gets the room but the girl evidently communicated the location to the ripoff crew. Or the crew followed them. Troubling because I've always felt secure in taking the girl to "my place" vs an incall. Not sure how one could prevent something like that.

Get a room at a hotel with restricted entry (where you need a room key to access the stairwell or elevators). It's more expensive usually.