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  2. #4682

    Sam

    Is it true Sam is back?

    I know it's her old picture and name but can it be true. Has anyone seen her lately?

    http://madison.skipthegames.com/fema...l/092755635886

    Play Safe.

    Bob.

  3. #4681
    Quote Originally Posted by Andy54  [View Original Post]
    I would agree that if you are seeing a girl for a second time and the first time was awesome, she is worth more. Not always true, but the chances are good. I just don't like handing over a high donation without knowing the girl. She may be a ripoff or a total waste of time, no matter what you payed her. When I was younger, I wouldn't be able to wait like I can now. I actually gave this up a few months ago, but still see someone every once in a while, so I'm not pushing the panic button whenever I see some hot pictures posted. When BAILEY (yea, the same Bailey) was new, I payed her 80 hh every time I saw her, which was probably once or twice a month on average. Brooklyn's friend Danielle was also a regular at 80 hh. Native Shae was also 80 hh. I can't remember her name, but she was a very popular aa for along time and she also did that rate. The little hot blonde that was always asking 150 also did 80 for me several times. There are a lot more from the past that I can't remember. Lately the only girls that I've seen are brittan for 80 hh and lily for 100 hh, and autumn the ripoff for 80 hh. Both are worth the 120 hh, and realistically 150 for most guys. If I had the energy and the desire to fuck more girls, I'd pony up, but I just don't feel it that much anymore, so I golf 4 or five times a week instead.j
    I rarely if ever pay more than 100, I see a few providers who are adamant about 150/ hh that I see for 100. Granted these are QV but I never feel rushed. I've found several will do 80, occasionally I see one very regular STG poster for 60, and she's not one of the fat skankier ones either. I think she just likes fucking me haha. I would post their names but I'm not sure what it would accomplish aside from pissing them off if they find out.

  4. #4680
    Quote Originally Posted by Andy54  [View Original Post]
    I didn't ask if she would do less but last October she agreed to 100 hh, but something came up on my end and I had to cancel. I haven't tried since because of the bad reports about her health / rash.
    Last October might as well have been a decade ago in this business. These girls change donations, policies, and even their menu more often than I change underwear. I could see Bailley accepting 120. My guess is anything less would get you ghosted. But I could also see her being unhappy with the 120 and giving rushed service for it. Or booking something better last minute that pays better.

  5. #4679
    Quote Originally Posted by SitNud  [View Original Post]
    That first pic is HEAVILY filtered. She's a definite horse face but a nice body.
    The thing is, if she actually looked like that in the 1st pic it would be weird, LOL. I don't think she looks bad at all, & that body looks nicely toned. I might be getting back in the game sooner then expected. And right now just looking for a hot body rather than GFE.

  6. #4678
    Quote Originally Posted by IceFourPlay  [View Original Post]
    So did Bailey meet your 120 max??
    I didn't ask if she would do less but last October she agreed to 100 hh, but something came up on my end and I had to cancel. I haven't tried since because of the bad reports about her health / rash.

  7. #4677
    Quote Originally Posted by AverageJoe40  [View Original Post]
    http://madison.skipthegames.com/fema...h/644687400077

    Any intel on this one? Has a Wisconsin shirt on and a local number and looks Good! First time I have seen this ad though. Hopefully someone has seen her and she is indeed real!
    That first pic is HEAVILY filtered. She's a definite horse face but a nice body.

  8. #4676

    So.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy54  [View Original Post]
    , but wait, didn't you say there is no way Bailey will do a half hour, and hasn't for over a year or more? Maybe she doesn't like you, but she is very willing to do a half hour for me.
    So did Bailey meet your 120 max??

  9. #4675
    Quote Originally Posted by Andy54  [View Original Post]
    The girls I mentioned are the same girls that were getting at least 120 to 150 back then. Pretty much the same as now. I wasn't dabbling back then either. I'm not going to argue with you. You asked a question and I answered it, but you didn't like my answer. That's fine. And, Oh, by the way. I asked Bailey for her rates and this was her response "150 hhr and I have a new client special for 250 hr (normally 300 hr) on initial appointments". So you are right, she is 300 for an hour, but wait, didn't you say there is no way Bailey will do a half hour, and hasn't for over a year or more? Maybe she doesn't like you, but she is very willing to do a half hour for me. And oh, lily isn't Bailey, but she isn't far behind either. And Jane, I wouldn't pay her 40, not even in the same category of any of the girls I mentioned. And lexxi, yes she is worth more, and she was another regular that I payed 60 to 80 hh back when you were giving her 120 to 150. It is what it is. I'll pay less and you pay more and we are both happy! Let's move on to something worth talking about.
    Theres no argument here. Maybe a healthy debate. But, I asked you a question. What girls are you CURRENTLY seeing like with the past 90 days for 60-80 per month? I didn't like your answer because you gave me donations that you paid much longer than that ago. I was seriously asking for recommendations from you. Not trying to prove you wrong, like you may think. I didn't really get any.

    Aside from Lily who I've seen, once. I would not repeat because it was obvious in more than one way that she was high volume. Which ruined my time, which is the unreliable service that I'm speaking about getting for that donation amount. Others here have reviewed her the same way, so I'm not the only one.

    Obviously, our personal preference varies because I've never gotten that from Jane. She's always been consistently a good time. Sometimes great. Never did I get obvious indications that she was high volume. And aside from a ripoff report from a long time ago, I have not seen a negative review of her. Her recent reviews may be better than anyone in madison. I can't speak to that. I have not seen her in months.

    The rest of the girls that you mentioned either are no longer available or no longer accept that donation. At least, from most of us. Which is what this board is for. To post about what one can normally expect from a provider. Not what they offer specially to certain people.

    Bailey I saw 2 months ago. I had seen her on average of once every 2 months to that point going back perhaps 8 months? I asked each time if HH was available and was told no. I PM with a regular of hers here that has had the same experience. He last saw her a month ago. No hh was available then either. So, she has either recently changed her policy, or she is offering you something she isn't offering others. Maybe because of her outcall only policy recently? She needs the business? Or maybe she remembers you and knows you would only do HH? I don't know. Either way, I can tell you it was not normal for sure a month ago. I mentioned the new client special, so it's pretty obvious I'm not making this up. Thank you for the heads up on that, though. I will make more of an effort to see her now with the hh available.

    I've seen Lexxi 3-4 times over the past 2 years. She's my go to if I'm in town and can't get ahold of others. I can't say I've had any experience with her previous to that or many others for that matter. Before 2 years ago, I was like you. I was doing other things and I might see someone once every 3 months. I also lived elsewhere and didn't travel to madison often so I also did not have the opportunities.

    Either way, I can't be blamed for posting inaccurate info when a provider recently changes her rates or policies. My info was good within 30 days ago.

    I don't think what a provider would accept for a donation "back then" is relevant to the conversation. I asked who you're seeing now or recently for 60-80? Basically, you gave me one that has a pretty bad odor at times that is currently accepting that. All the rest that you mentioned are currently 120 or more.

    You or me doesn't matter. It's what they ask. I don't offer less often. I've had to many times where I think I got 75% effort for my 75% donation. Not only that, but I've been told by many providers that they will accept less at times. But, if theres a double book situation, guess who gets radio silence? So yes, you pay less, and maybe receive less. I'll pay more. And maybe I'll get in to see someone at times instead of wasting my time driving an hour to madison and getting ghosted. They'll be happy. I'll get 100% service, and we'll both be happy. But mostly, I'll never make a 2 hour round trip and go home empty handed.

  10. #4674
    Quote Originally Posted by Andy54  [View Original Post]
    The girls I mentioned are the same girls that were getting at least 120 to 150 back then. Pretty much the same as now. I wasn't dabbling back then either. I'm not going to argue with you. You asked a question and I answered it, but you didn't like my answer. That's fine. And, Oh, by the way. I asked Bailey for her rates and this was her response "150 hhr and I have a new client special for 250 hr (normally 300 hr) on initial appointments". So you are right, she is 300 for an hour, but wait, didn't you say there is no way Bailey will do a half hour, and hasn't for over a year or more? Maybe she doesn't like you, but she is very willing to do a half hour for me. And oh, lily isn't Bailey, but she isn't far behind either. And Jane, I wouldn't pay her 40, not even in the same category of any of the girls I mentioned. And lexxi, yes she is worth more, and she was another regular that I payed 60 to 80 hh back when you were giving her 120 to 150. It is what it is. I'll pay less and you pay more and we are both happy! Let's move on to something worth talking about.
    There are very few experiences I've had where I think, "I got a deal on that shit. "

    Paying more doesn't all by itself guarantee anything, in my experience.

    Repeating with girls who provide a reliably awesome experience is something I haven't experienced in a long time.

    Bailey was my go to for a long time. Sam. Kelsey. Shae (not reliable in terms in getting in touch with or actually seeing, but once your cock was in her mouth or anywhere else she was extremely reliable).

    Lately, though? Fuck me, it's barren. Bella sounds awesome, but I'm kind of keen on white girls. Green Eyed Beauty was great, but then she went from $120 to $300 and I couldn't make the mental leap. Didn't want to really. Brittan, well we all know what happened to her.

    Who's left? Serenity? No more GFE. Amber? Impossible to contact and unpredictable (could be a terrible rush or could be ultra GFE). Lily? I can't forget that fucking basement. LOL.

    Yeah, I got nothing.

  11. #4673
    Quote Originally Posted by ToolMan347  [View Original Post]
    Most, if not all, the donations that you mention are from a long time ago or the girl is no longer available. And Lily is ok, but I don't think she compares to Bailey or Bella, or even Lexxi or Jane. My point doesn't really apply to you or anyone that dabbles in the hobby. More so to those who are into it. If you currently want a good, reliable time, 120 or more is what it will take unless you win the escort lottery.

    I was told by Bailey that her incall situation is to take the heat off her. Apparently, her incall was attracting unwanted attention. Smart move if it's true. Also, would indicate she is busy if true.
    The girls I mentioned are the same girls that were getting at least 120 to 150 back then. Pretty much the same as now. I wasn't dabbling back then either. I'm not going to argue with you. You asked a question and I answered it, but you didn't like my answer. That's fine. And, Oh, by the way. I asked Bailey for her rates and this was her response "150 hhr and I have a new client special for 250 hr (normally 300 hr) on initial appointments". So you are right, she is 300 for an hour, but wait, didn't you say there is no way Bailey will do a half hour, and hasn't for over a year or more? Maybe she doesn't like you, but she is very willing to do a half hour for me. And oh, lily isn't Bailey, but she isn't far behind either. And Jane, I wouldn't pay her 40, not even in the same category of any of the girls I mentioned. And lexxi, yes she is worth more, and she was another regular that I payed 60 to 80 hh back when you were giving her 120 to 150. It is what it is. I'll pay less and you pay more and we are both happy! Let's move on to something worth talking about.

  12. #4672
    Quote Originally Posted by Andy54  [View Original Post]
    I would agree that if you are seeing a girl for a second time and the first time was awesome, she is worth more. Not always true, but the chances are good. I just don't like handing over a high donation without knowing the girl. She may be a ripoff or a total waste of time, no matter what you payed her. When I was younger, I wouldn't be able to wait like I can now. I actually gave this up a few months ago, but still see someone every once in a while, so I'm not pushing the panic button whenever I see some hot pictures posted. When BAILEY (yea, the same Bailey) was new, I payed her 80 hh every time I saw her, which was probably once or twice a month on average. Brooklyn's friend Danielle was also a regular at 80 hh. Native Shae was also 80 hh. I can't remember her name, but she was a very popular aa for along time and she also did that rate. The little hot blonde that was always asking 150 also did 80 for me several times. There are a lot more from the past that I can't remember. Lately the only girls that I've seen are brittan for 80 hh and lily for 100 hh, and autumn the ripoff for 80 hh. Both are worth the 120 hh, and realistically 150 for most guys. If I had the energy and the desire to fuck more girls, I'd pony up, but I just don't feel it that much anymore, so I golf 4 or five times a week instead.j
    Most, if not all, the donations that you mention are from a long time ago or the girl is no longer available. And Lily is ok, but I don't think she compares to Bailey or Bella, or even Lexxi or Jane. My point doesn't really apply to you or anyone that dabbles in the hobby. More so to those who are into it. If you currently want a good, reliable time, 120 or more is what it will take unless you win the escort lottery.

    I was told by Bailey that her incall situation is to take the heat off her. Apparently, her incall was attracting unwanted attention. Smart move if it's true. Also, would indicate she is busy if true.

  13. #4671
    Quote Originally Posted by ToolMan347  [View Original Post]
    Good for you. I have not. My past probably 10-12 experiences where I paid under 120 have been terrible. Like I wished I had bought 3-4 private dances with a hot stripper and a few drinks instead. I shouldn't say the experiences were all horrible. They were all just lacking in some way drastically. Like terrible incall locations, unattractive women, overweight women, obvious signs of a drug abuse, bad service, or a combination of these.

    And I would agree with you to a point. Spending more money usually guarantees you nothing. But, I'm not talking about most. I'm talking about 2 in specific. Bella and Bailey have enough positive reviews that I'd say you are unlikely to have a bad time, unless you cause the bad time if you can get in to see them, which is probably the biggest obstacle with both. I personally have seen each probably a half dozen times. I would not say they have all been consistently great. But, they have all been good or better. Half my experiences with each I would say were great, the rest just good. For me, I'd say it is probable that I will have a good time or better with either of them.

    Also, I'd say or priorities are different. I have new golf clubs. Most days when I have the time to golf, I'd prefer to try to fuck a good looking girl. And my clubs sit and collect dust. And then I wish I'd spent my golf club money on escorts. You seem content to sit and wait for weeks till what you are looking for comes along. I am not. I'd prefer to see someone twice a month or more. The time I'd have to spend alone looking for and keeping track of someone to see for 60-80 bucks here in madison would not be worth the money it would save me to me. I can contact someone reliable for twice as much and save myself hours of research time.

    About 10-15 years ago, it was normal for a girl to get 2-3 hundred per visit. Less of the dissapointments existed. Then the trash started doing it and it dropped the donations, but also, I think the quality and value actually dropped. There are still a few out there that concentrate on the quality and not how many guys they can bang in a day, but not many. At least that's my take on this business.

    But you have my curiosity. May I ask whom you have been seeing that is good for 60-80? I may give them a try.
    I would agree that if you are seeing a girl for a second time and the first time was awesome, she is worth more. Not always true, but the chances are good. I just don't like handing over a high donation without knowing the girl. She may be a ripoff or a total waste of time, no matter what you payed her. When I was younger, I wouldn't be able to wait like I can now. I actually gave this up a few months ago, but still see someone every once in a while, so I'm not pushing the panic button whenever I see some hot pictures posted. When BAILEY (yea, the same Bailey) was new, I payed her 80 hh every time I saw her, which was probably once or twice a month on average. Brooklyn's friend Danielle was also a regular at 80 hh. Native Shae was also 80 hh. I can't remember her name, but she was a very popular aa for along time and she also did that rate. The little hot blonde that was always asking 150 also did 80 for me several times. There are a lot more from the past that I can't remember. Lately the only girls that I've seen are brittan for 80 hh and lily for 100 hh, and autumn the ripoff for 80 hh. Both are worth the 120 hh, and realistically 150 for most guys. If I had the energy and the desire to fuck more girls, I'd pony up, but I just don't feel it that much anymore, so I golf 4 or five times a week instead.j

  14. #4670
    Quote Originally Posted by ToolMan347  [View Original Post]
    I would be curious what her screening process she mentions is. I would bet that it involves joining a website that requires a credit card, AKA scam. 920 number. I would have probably hit her with more than 80 if you were going to try TOFTT. She should be worth at least 120 if she is legit and the pics are real. If they aren't, just walk away.
    No screening process as far as I got. She gave me an address near East Towne (one of those notorious notels). That was after a half hour of radio silence.

    So I said, "Thanks, maybe another time. ".

    LOL.

    Any opportunity I get to reevaluate and bail along the bumps and swings and silence of communicating with these girls, is one I usually take lately. In the buffet of disappointment, I think I've tried it all.

  15. #4669

    Bailey

    Quote Originally Posted by ToolMan347  [View Original Post]
    I think another good question to ask here is if a 60-80 girl good get 150 per visit, why aren't they asking it? Is your position that they don't want or need the money?

    From what I've seen, it is possible to find, through dumb luck or hours of research, a good experience for that amount of money. But, it is temporary. These good ones will inevitably build a large client following quickly, where they cannot see everyone, and then increase their donation. The ones that remain at 60-80, will remain at that donation for a reason. They would not have enough clients willing to pay it to sustain themselves. Not my cup of tea.

    Bailey has been around for years now. I think anyone that sees her would agree that she appears to be doing ok for herself. She does not appear to be struggling to get clients to see her at her higher donation. She lives in a decent, clean place. She does not drive a POS car. She appears to be living "comfortably". I have yet to see a 60-80 girl that appears to be doing as well. They have all come off as desparate for money to me. I do not find that attractive personally. Too each his own.

    But again, I would like to hear who you are seeing or have seen that are the exceptions? I might give them a try.
    I don't know how well she is really doing, posting a lot and only out calls, I saw her a few months ago and it was not the same old Bailey.

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