Ripoff Reports

**Eric1975** · 11-13-20 19:27

Originally Posted by DonTrask [View Original Post]

It sucks, but if every monger posting to this web were to confess, nearly all of us have gotten ripped off, some more than once. This is for your own consideration, I have reverted to showing the cash for the deed and telling them it will be in my front shirt pocket until the deed is done, then they get paid. When they claim that they got ripped off previously, simply explain that wasn't you and you have no intention of ripping them off. If they still refuse, the deal is off, get them out of your car as soon as possible and wish them luck.

There is always a power imbalance in any negotiation. When the money is in your pocket, you have the leverage. Once it leaves your pocket, they have the leverage. For any mongers claiming there is an unwritten rule that you need to pay upfront, trust me, it's not always the case but you need to make it clear that its your way or the highway. Better luck next time.

Only fronted her the cash first, since I had seen her before. 80 is no big loss, just chalk it up as a hobby expense. 99% of the time, I've paid after the service and have had no issues. Next time my car date will be in a car wash, no escape.

**DonTrask** · 11-13-20 18:53

Originally Posted by Eric1975 [View Original Post]

Seen this one awhile back for an uninspiring BBBJ cardate. She text me a few weeks later offering her friend who was interested in meeting me but was new to the game and didn't want to be alone during the encounter. Sooo we settled on a car date BBBJ with both girls in my car. We drive to a secluded place not far from their apartment complex on Western Ave with the new girl in the backseat. Upon parking, we agree to 80 for a BBBJ so I hand the cash to the ***** in the front seat, she opens the door to switch spots with the new girl in the backseat and both proceeded to run off into the bushes.

It sucks, but if every monger posting to this web were to confess, nearly all of us have gotten ripped off, some more than once. This is for your own consideration, I have reverted to showing the cash for the deed and telling them it will be in my front shirt pocket until the deed is done, then they get paid. When they claim that they got ripped off previously, simply explain that wasn't you and you have no intention of ripping them off. If they still refuse, the deal is off, get them out of your car as soon as possible and wish them luck.

There is always a power imbalance in any negotiation. When the money is in your pocket, you have the leverage. Once it leaves your pocket, they have the leverage. For any mongers claiming there is an unwritten rule that you need to pay upfront, trust me, it's not always the case but you need to make it clear that its your way or the highway. Better luck next time.

**Eric1975** · 11-13-20 16:23

Seen this one awhile back for an uninspiring BBBJ cardate. She text me a few weeks later offering her friend who was interested in meeting me but was new to the game and didn't want to be alone during the encounter. Sooo we settled on a car date BBBJ with both girls in my car. We drive to a secluded place not far from their apartment complex on Western Ave with the new girl in the backseat. Upon parking, we agree to 80 for a BBBJ so I hand the cash to the ***** in the front seat, she opens the door to switch spots with the new girl in the backseat and both proceeded to run off into the bushes.

**Taters2019** · 10-26-20 12:09

Originally Posted by FltRider [View Original Post]

Bay, sorry this happened to you. However, its also time to once again lay down the golden rule. Never, and I mean Never, pay a deposit. I don't care if they promise a golden pussy that falls down like sunshine, never send $ in advance. Not a gift card, not an Amazon card, nothing. Ever. Period. For every one time that they are legit, there are thousands of others who will rip you off. If you must fall for it, then have them send you a picture from outside their hotel room window. Most times, they will google search a local picture and send it, and it won't match the current weather in your area. This summer a gal sent me a pic out of her hotel window and there was snow on the ground. My other test is to ask them to send me $25 and I will send $100 back. That makes them clam up as well. Anyway, your experience, while bad, should again act as a warning to any hobbyist thinking about sending a deposit. Anybody who says they haven't been ripped off are either lying, or, haven't been around long enough to have it happen, but a deposit is a 99.99% chance of losing money.

GREAT ADVICE FltRider when it comes to the deposit. The only way I make a deposit is if they have their own dedicated websites or Twitter / IG accounts where a person could publicly shame them for taking the money and running. Problem though is that those ladies tend to command a higher donation rate.

When it comes to the more discount providers (STG, them or Listcrawler, etc) who want the deposit I've done the picture thing too and it works. I've also asked for a picture of the phone in their room with the room number blocked out and that shuts them up too. Generally speaking the scammers who want the deposits aren't anywhere close to Appleton / Green Bay.

Another tip is to get a Pinger / Google / TextPlus phone number and pick and area code a long way away. One of mine is a Dallas area code and if you text a provider who is in GB or Appleton and they reply mentioning a city with the area code you used, you know it's a scammer. That works well too.......

Even if everything checks out and they pass the test, etc. Even if you get to their place or they come to yours and you see the girl, plunk down the donation, you're still not in the clear. As we know it's too easy for them to grab the money and run out the door. Until she's getting naked, it's a crap shoot all the way and even then its still not a sure thing. You never know who is hiding in the bathroom or getting to knock on the door once you're buck naked.

Stay safe my fellow mongers.

**FltRider** · 10-26-20 10:31

Originally Posted by Baylander [View Original Post]

I have been doing this since before Al Gore's invention and I can honestly say that this is the first time I have ever been taken.

https://green-bay.skipthegames.com/f...e/464082904773

She wants a deposit, but we talked quite a bit via text and for the first time, I was stupid enough to fall for it. Strung me along for a while too. Just dropping the kids off at the babysitters. Be there in 5 minutes.

Should have definitely known better. She advertises in the Dells too. Don't fall for her bullshit like I did

Bay, sorry this happened to you. However, its also time to once again lay down the golden rule. Never, and I mean Never, pay a deposit. I don't care if they promise a golden pussy that falls down like sunshine, never send $ in advance. Not a gift card, not an Amazon card, nothing. Ever. Period. For every one time that they are legit, there are thousands of others who will rip you off. If you must fall for it, then have them send you a picture from outside their hotel room window. Most times, they will google search a local picture and send it, and it won't match the current weather in your area. This summer a gal sent me a pic out of her hotel window and there was snow on the ground. My other test is to ask them to send me $25 and I will send $100 back. That makes them clam up as well. Anyway, your experience, while bad, should again act as a warning to any hobbyist thinking about sending a deposit. Anybody who says they haven't been ripped off are either lying, or, haven't been around long enough to have it happen, but a deposit is a 99.99% chance of losing money.

**Baylander** · 10-25-20 19:04

I have been doing this since before Al Gore's invention and I can honestly say that this is the first time I have ever been taken.

https://green-bay.skipthegames.com/f...e/464082904773

She wants a deposit, but we talked quite a bit via text and for the first time, I was stupid enough to fall for it. Strung me along for a while too. Just dropping the kids off at the babysitters. Be there in 5 minutes.

Should have definitely known better. She advertises in the Dells too. Don't fall for her bullshit like I did.

**Wheres Oslo** · 07-23-20 17:45

That's interesting.

Originally Posted by HipPeters77 [View Original Post]

Seen a scoop up and drop off near anduzzis bear the stadium. Hot little thing. Looked Asian or Hispanic. Any info please pm me I'd like to know more.

**HipPeters77** · 07-23-20 15:05

Seen a scoop up and drop off near anduzzis bear the stadium. Hot little thing. Looked Asian or Hispanic. Any info please pm me I'd like to know more.

**Wheres Oslo** · 07-23-20 13:21

Get a screen shot next time. Ad is gone now.

Originally Posted by JustMe67 [View Original Post]

Seemed nice at the beginning, but stole from me and gave me a run around and screwed me over on my time. Avoid!

http://green-bay.skipthegames.com/fe...4/371286393392

**BuffaloDog** · 07-23-20 00:01

Originally Posted by FunTimerogers [View Original Post]

This one ran out the door as soon as my back was turned for a minute. Unfortunately I had already given her the agreed upon donation.

Where was this? The pics remind me of the Farlin gang.

**FunTimerogers** · 07-22-20 16:59

This one ran out the door as soon as my back was turned for a minute. Unfortunately I had already given her the agreed upon donation.

**BayWood** · 06-17-20 16:20

She looks like a dancer from North point that was dancing last fall.

**West16** · 06-17-20 14:34

This was posted on GB CL today. I have no confirming info. Passing on as a PSA.

https://greenbay.craigslist.org/com/...143404793.html

**JustMe 67** · 10-21-18 17:59

Seemed nice at the beginning, but stole from me and gave me a run around and screwed me over on my time. Avoid!

http://green-bay.skipthegames.com/fe...4/371286393392

**WesternJoe** · 07-23-18 18:34

Originally Posted by Leaker2 [View Original Post]

I had a similar experience and just left. If it was in fact a K9 unit, they probably were there for drugs. You might just have been in the right place at the wrong time. I don't blame you for being extra careful. Too many aren't.

Just a heads up. They are still trying. I just wanted to refresh the earlier posting.

http://appleton.skipthegames.com/fem...1/373537306054