2000-2004 Archived Reports

[sailorbob]

After reading recent posts and my own experience yesterday, I now consider myself a FORMER regular at OAcc. Here's my list of complaints from yesterday's visit: they first tried to put me in a room where a customer was already in there; provider spoke almost no English; she never removed the towel when she massaged me so her hands never touched my body (even when rubbing my neck, arms, etc.); she didn't really respond to my advances, but once she figured out I wasn't LE she just started rapid HJ with no technique or care; and the mamasan knocked on the door after only 20 min. Besides all that, the atmosphere was tense, like they expected INS or LE at any moment. I didn't recognize the manager, so maybe they've changed handlers recently. I don't intend to go back to find out if it gets any better.

[BRealSB]

As far as the latin woman go at A-1, the majority will ask for the goods upfront. The ones who know you wont and assume you already know the deal...are there any other places in oxnard that have latin woman? What i used to do when i was more active in the amp scene when i was looking for latins, was to call up several amps and ask if they had any latin woman working there...it worked at some places so you just gotta do a little dialing....anyway peace out

[Jurassic]

Guys I'm wondering about ACCUPUNCTURE at AMPs. Have any of you tried this service out? I had Accupuncture about seven years ago at a Non AMP clinic. It was interesting experience. Thought I might like to try again. Don't know if I'd trust an AMP with the needles.

Thanks for any insight.

[Pussy Luvr]

Gip,

Only once have I had an Hispanic girl that didn't want the money in hand or at least agree on in advance. I have usually been able to talk them into waiting for a normal tip but rarely I have agreed on an tentative amount but only if I'm satisfied with the service. Since I go there frequently I have no trouble telling the girl to go get the mamasan. That alone can make them reconsider.

One girl to avoid at all costs is Mary. Several months ago I was with her when she had first started. She wasn't really much to look at, especially when her clothes came off. A bit too chubby around the middle. She asked $100 for FS. She said that was what everyone was paying her. I had to subdue my laughter at her asking price but then I managed to talk her into trusting my generosity. The service was so-so at best. At first she wouldn't do DATY then she changed her mind. Then she insisted that I had given her an orgasm doing it and later said I should tip more because of it! She should consider the orgasm as a bonus by itself. As I recall, she only would do missionary. I gave her my usual $60 tip. I considered this more than generous, given her looks, service and attitude. She went into hysterics! This pyscho b*tch went on and on about why I should give her more. She was giving me her sob story that she was only doing this to support her four kids, etc. I thought I was never going to escape. Unfortunately when I did, I didn't get to talk to the mamasan.

Then a couple of months ago I ended up with Mary again. The girl that I was there to see didn't show up for work that day. The mamasan brought her in and asked if she would be OK instead. I was already naked and had my glasses off so I didn't recognize her at first. Again, she insisted on $100 for FS. I told her I don't do business that way. She kept insisting. So I just started to dress and I told her to forget it, that this wasn't going to work. The mamasan came in and gave me my door fee back and told me the other girl would be in the next day. We then discussed my problems with Mary and my general dislike of anyone that brings up money.

My best experience with an Hispanic there was Alex. She started out asking how much I would give her and wasn't willing to rely on my generosity. I told her to go get the mamasan. She left the room and came back a few minutes later. She had a totally different attitude then and a good time was had by all. She didn't complain about my tip and made it a point to repeat her name a couple of times and what days that she usually works.

By contrast, I have rarely had an Asian girl even ask about money. If they do, they will usually change their minds when mention two or three other girls that I pay later.

I have nothing against Hispanics but for me they are rarely worth the hassle. As a result, my first choice is usually an Asian. I might chance an Hispanic when there is not an Asian available but rarely would I ask for one.

PussyLuvr

[Brad09]

From what I have always heard the hispanic girls do. The Korean girls do not. Some of the Hispanic girls that work there are not from Mexico. Out of four Latina girls working there at one time, one was Mexican, one from Pureto Rico, (said she lived in Long Beach and was from New Jersey) who did not speak much English, and another girl from Costa Rica.

[Big Gip]

Not much going on the past week or so in the 'nard. I've gone to Wagon Wheel a few times the past few weeks and have had great service. Did not get the names of the providers but it was good just the same. I took some advice from Mule and decided not to ask for a certain provider and just see who mamason brings out. Have not been dissapointed.

Question for Brad - I went to A-1 once and was asked for $ up front. Afterwards, she just lied there and didn't do anything. Now, I know that was just one person, but do all the girls there ask for $ up front?

[Brad09]

I have not heard too much about SW in Oxnard in recent years.

Try A-1 Massage in Oxnard they have Latinas!

[Too-Cool]

Does anyone have any exp with some of the SW's down in the sixth street area near the blvd. I go by there on my way to work and see a good deal of them. Worth a shot or don't bother

[Jurassic]

Lately, I've been visiting Ori Health in Goleta. Haven't felt like making the long drive to OX.
I've had 3 great massages there. The first I convinced the girl to a quick FS after 25 min. of a real good massage. Return visits ended up being legit massage only. A rushed hj was offered once, I declined.

Yesterday, my back was achy and hungry for a skilled massage. I phoned first, was told Sarah was there, gal on the phone wasn't at the site. Said would call, to set up my appt. 10 min. later.

I arrive, ring bell twice. Both girls busy. I'm escorted to the front entrance told to wait 30 - 60 min. After 15 min. I return to my car, contemplate splitting. 10 min. later a monger departs.

Ringing the bell, I'm greeted by a different gal I've not met before. She has a nice rack and tight jeans. I'm sitting up naked waiting for her, she enters and comes over to hug me longtime. I can't resist reaching around and rubbing her breasts. She moans approvingly. I pull them out from her bra and lick the nipples and rub her crotch. She asks if I have a hat. Yes.

She gets naked and proceeds to lick my shaft like an icecream cone. BBBJ is awesome. Caressing her melons. We install the hat and I pause to look at her beaver and finger her. She's wet and moaning that she wants it. I climb aboard and she's moaning like crazy, thrashing around a bit. I'm so excited I can tell I'm not going to be able to hold back very long. I try to use the squeeze technique on the base of my rod while I'm inside her. This scenario is too hot and UNEXPECTED for me so I nut really fast. I keep pumping away because she seems to be loving every thrust. I enjoy watching her reaction. It still feels ok, but not nearly as good as before I came. Also I want to savor the experience. Eventually my bridge begins to soften and melt. As I remove it, hat still on, I look down and see a little blood. She apologizes, says period must be starting. I jump up and thoroughly soap and wash the little guy and surrounding areas.

She leaves to clean up and returns with fresh towels or sheets. I never did get any massage. The whole thing lasted 20 min. I also had a Dilemma because I knew my tip was going to be under par for this area. They always ask 1 and accept .8. I only had .5 on me. So I didn't ask for massage. Got dressed, and handed her two Jacksons with two Lincolns in the middle.

Luckily, she didn't count it in front of me, showed me the exit and I hurried out of there. Wondering if I'd be confronted. Nothing happened. Well ultimately I did pay .9 for the experience. Usually would be 1.2.

Today, my back would still like a good rub, but I hesitate to return to this place. . I think I would have been happy with BBBJCIM.

P.S. Today I saw my Chiropractor instead. Back feels much better!

[Green Gopher]

Oh and rules to live by when dealing w/ AMP's.

-If she asks for $ upfront, she will most likely turn out to become an average if not bad provider.

-Learn their names.

-Smell good. Come in fresh from a shower, I always baby powder myself before the AMP's and they appreciate it ALOT and their service can show it!

-If she tickles certain spots you like, show it! let her know that you're down with it.

-I dont bother touching her, when I'm on my back and she gets near the lower region I just smile and give her the look. If she is a provider she knows to look at you when she touches the boys to see your reaction.

-Dont be afraid to ask for another provider. And be friendly to the mama, she can take you far!

-If the place seems busy and packed, it might not be the best possible time to get good service. Mama needs to take advantage of all the business and will ultimately rush the girls.

-Before while I was new to the AMP scene I used to tell them I only want BJ, which was usually 40-60. While going at it I dont come so I tell them the only way I can come is if we go FS. Upon which sometimes its just free of charge or I pay 20 more then the previously agreed price.

-If she comes in not looking happy I will gaurantee that the service is going to be mechanical. Good mood = good service

-Sometimes just take a hit in the wallet. I've had providers who seemed especially unhappy or not feeling well that day and I offered the $ for the services only w/o the services. They will remember you and appreciate it. Its a big bump up to the next level. $60 for a lifetime of GREAT service, not to shabby! Only do this once unless you really are a great concerning monger.

-Most important secret to good service is communication. If you can express your appreciation and make them feel comfortable you will be a very happy monger.

[Hobby knob]

Went to St. M today. Saw Diana. Nice GFE. BTW, she said she was nervous because LE was there on Sunday checking licenses.

Also, as a tip on how to get things started.
When the massage begins I saw "I like it soft". They always remove the towel (if they put one on) and rub lightly. They almost always go for the boys right away to see how I'll react. I usually make a slight moan, and it's on.

It's been working for me. Try it.

[Pussy Luvr]

Luv,

I'm glad you accepted my comments as they were meant. I have learned a lot from WSG and try to pass on the knowledge I have gained from my experiences. The short answer to your question on getting from Point A to Point B is really quite simple - let your fingers do the walking (and talking). Jurassic, Green Gopher and Snail Trail all had some good comments to offer.

If I don't have any information on a place, I let the massage start normally. I do not cover myself with a towel and if the girl tries to do so, I tell her I'm "hot" and then toss it aside. I also lay on my back until she tells me to turn over. I let her massage me for a little while and wait until she gets in a convenient position. When she does, I "accidentally" brush my hand across her leg. If there is no negative reaction, I will place my hand on her calf and begin to massage it as a test. If she objects then I back off fast, the place is either legit or she’s LE. If there is no reaction, then I slowly massage my way up her leg. I give her time to react before moving on. If at any point she objects, I stop. As long as she doesn’t complain, I keep going until it starts to get "personal." Now she is either going to continue following my lead or she may open "negotiations." My experience around here has been that she will usually just go with the flow and there will be no further discussion required. Also, if the girl asks you what you want, it may only be to see whether she needs to go out and get a condom. Many girls enter the room "unprepared" because if LE catches them with one, it could be used as evidence against them.

My favorite approach when I go to a place that is known to offer "real" service is a little more direct. Don't even wait for the massage to begin. Just stand naked near the door rather than lie down on the bed. Greet the girl when she comes in. Try to be friendly, ask her name, tell her yours, etc. You have to sort of play it by ear but if the vibes are right, touch her on the shoulder, brush your hand against her hair, take her hand, etc. If there is no negative reaction, then try a hug. If that goes well, try massaging her back while you are still hugging her. If you make it down to her butt without any complaints, then you are probably in pretty good shape. Instead of complaints, she will more likely tell you how good it feels. Again, she may have to run out for a condom.

Also, if you do give a girl a big tip, one thing that you can count on is that she WILL expect the same next time you see her.

PussyLuvr

[Jurassic]

Luv Asian 33 said "I'm not quite sure how you get to the point where things can go any further than a massage when tips AREN'T talked about. It seems to me you'd be at a stalemate, or a catch 22, if you will."


Oxnard is the near GFE paradise compared to Santa Barbara where I live.

My suggestions are (1) when paying for the room time, let the girl see you have more cash (tip money) on hand. Not too much, only what you hope to pay. Keep an extra 20 hidden in another pocket as a last resort, if you cave in to higher prices.

(2) Give the girl a friendly hug and smile greeting before the massage begins, when you're already naked, let her check you out. Perhaps stroke her ass or breasts at this point. The point is be direct, confident and friendly.

(3) After you've enjoyed the massage enough, reach for her thighs, preferably she is wearing a skirt or nightie. Start giving her a massage heading toward her sweet spot.

(4) If she asks what you want, simply say "everything" or use the universal finger entering closed fist for FS gesture. Finger toward mouth for BJ.

If a haggle ensues, asking for another girl or the mamasan often settles them down. Another contributor once suggested turning them down completely, telling them just to finish giving the massage. He said often two minutes later they'll change their mind and accept your offer. Afterall .6 for 10 - 15 work is excellent money to waste.

I think Snail Trail, Gopher and especially PussyLuvr made excellent points.

[Snail Trail]

Hello Fellow Mongers!

I had the recent fortune to be in the area the past week and decided to go visit a few spots.

First stop was early in the week at G.T. in El Rio. I saw my favorite, Jeannie, and she did not disappoint. 60/50 for 45 min that included an accompanied shower, massage, cbj and fs. Our session actually lasted over an hour as it took me a while to finish, though she must have climaxed at least twice during session. She's got the nicest legs, though she is not fond of DATY, but still quite flexible nonetheless. She stopped her classes at a county JC because it's the end of the semester, but I did notice a little improvement in English. My only complaint is that they don't do a good job of traffic control. Twice (once when coming out of the room to shower, another time leaving the shower room to go back to the room) I had to jump back behind a closed door due to interference of a clear path in the hallway by a fellow monger. No offense guys, but I'd prefer our interactions to be on this forum, and not in the hallways of an Amp.

The next day went to MXM and again, clientele seated in waiting room with open blinds. Since it was evening, it made the images of mongers waiting in a fishbowl even more apparent to outside traffic! Ugh! Feeling the tension, I decided to drive south to TO.

Ok, I know that TO gets bad press from many here, but I have to admit that the best 'real' massages are those that I get up the hill in TO. I went there, 90 for an hour. The rooms got a little more upscale with plasma TV's in each room. I saw my usual provider, 5' 5", 105lbs, cupie doll eyes, hair past shoulders. I have seen her now for over a year and a half, and always bring a jimmy hat hoping for FS, but to no avail....until this time! I finally got to begging and finally, finally, finally, I got to park my car in her garage!! I did pay dearly for it, but it was an amount that I was willing to part with...I will withhold that amount because I don't want to shock the masses, but afterward, she asked if we could meet 'outside' somewhere and "do it again(sic)". Hmm, after one and a half years she finally opens up and now wants to meet outside? I did ask if ownership changed (to see if policy changed too), but she said no.

Mongers, anybody else get to clear the bases at this place? I have been here quite a few times, the pleading and rejection used to help enhance the HJ ending, but now a big 180 degree turn? I can't help but think that others here have had the same experience as well...

Anyways, to answer the question buring in your heads, yes, I am going to meet 'outside' as I have in the past. I will let you know what transpires in a future report...

Good Luck Everyone!

[Snail Trail]

I have to agree with PussyLuvr, although I think that fellow mongers will agree that frequency of visits will get your more mileage for less. Luv, if you're happy parting with six jacksons and a hamilton for tip, then more power to you. I've had providers haggle me over pricing up front, so I always start at 40, move up to 50 if necessary, and settle at 60 tops...never been a problem for me either. For those of you who pay more and think you get more, you're right, you get MORE RECOGNIZED at a goldmine to them, but having had 'outside' sessions and a chance to really talk to a provider, I found that most will settle for what they can take. Those of you who think that 40 is only for an HJ, I hate to tell you, but usually the HJ is offered because the provider either a) thinks she can get more out of you for FS, b)doesn't feel like FS with you, or c)both.

To be fair, I use the same attitude with mongering as I would a trip to the casino: know well before how much $$$ you would be happy parting with by the end of your visit and you'll do fine.