News and Media Reports

[PyroJinx]

I had to laugh at that Drexl Spivey wannabe. What a joke.

I seen that guy around quite a lot. He's always hanging out at the ARCO. I wonder if the doc guy asked them any tough questions in the full version. Somebody here get that guys patreon and upload the full version to youtube for us.

One thing I'd like to point out is how feminine a lot of those pimps are. Not only that appeared in this doc but pimps in general these days are very fem in my experience with them. The dude is bragging about getting hand and feet pedicures. I suspect a lot of them are on the DL.

[Absence]

I had to laugh at that Drexl Spivey wannabe. What a joke.

I don't like this doc guy but I can't stop watching.

[KitWalker1967]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsN-2eNAnhE

Some guy on youtube made a little documentary about Aurora Avenue. I guess the full version is on his patreon. I don't know the full length. I saw one of the pimps that I follow on IG had put his clip of him in this docu up on it where they talked to him and followed him around etc.

I had to laugh at that Drexl Spivey wannabe. What a joke.

[Hoballer]

Wow, Irish is looking bad. Not surprised, though. She looked alright for a while, was a good date, haven't seen her around for a long time. Definitely gone downhill in that time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsN-2eNAnhE

Some guy on youtube made a little documentary about Aurora Avenue. I guess the full version is on his patreon. I don't know the full length. I saw one of the pimps that I follow on IG had put his clip of him in this docu up on it where they talked to him and followed him around etc.

[PyroJinx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsN-2eNAnhE

Some guy on youtube made a little documentary about Aurora Avenue. I guess the full version is on his patreon. I don't know the full length. I saw one of the pimps that I follow on IG had put his clip of him in this docu up on it where they talked to him and followed him around etc.

[Zomfg]

"Criminalizing sex work is broadly unpopular; during jury selection, echoing national sentiment, 23 of 25 potential jurors said they didn't think sex work should be illegal. But the city remains deeply invested in penalizing the practice and pouring resources into prosecuting men who patronize sex workers. ".

Give this to the other 2 out of 25, maybe they'll open their minds a little bit:

[Hoballer]

This article is from February but I thought it was an interesting read. It details the kind of alleged johns who are usually busted in john stings along Aurora - men who don't speak good English as well as minorities. Out of all the charges of Sexual Exploitation filed against alleged johns in Seattle last year, only one fought the city and he won his case. The vast majority of alleged johns plea-out (community service, john school, probation) because the case will be dropped and it can be expensive to fight the charge. The article mentions that SPD does not record their stings so often it's the cop's word against the alleged john's word. Last year I had a consultation with a lawyer and he told me the same thing. Apparently it's difficult to prove, but the city has to prove that the john actually committed the crime and without a recording that can be interesting. According to this article, the city appears to be trying to convince a jury that all sex workers are trafficked and are therefore victims and as a result all johns should be arrested and charged. What's odd to me is that the city tries so hard to entangle ALL sex work with trafficking, yet the city isn't out on AA asking the SWs if they need help or resources. They leave that to churches and volunteers. Ask any SW out there if a city employee has approached her and asked if she needs help and she'll tell you that nobody from the city has ever talked to her at all. The city talks a big game, but ultimately in the end does nothing to help anyone. What's also interesting to me is that the city repealed the prostitution loitering laws in 2020 because they found that minorities and under-served populations were getting caught-up in the laws. Interesting that the same logic doesn't seem to apply to alleged johns. It's my view that citizens need to start talking to the city council and attending meetings. They've got everything all wrong and have been the main instigators in creating the current situation out on Aurora.

https://publicola.com/2024/02/12/des...n-on-sex-work/

Some interesting points form the article -.

"Because undercover officers don't wear video cameras or carry recording devices and don't collect money from the men they target, the outcome of prostitution cases depends almost entirely on whose story the jury believes. Without tangible evidence proving that James was guilty, the prosecutors tried to tell a story about a hypothetical woman forced into sex work by circumstances beyond her control. ".

"I don't think I've ever had a white, English-speaking client charged with this," Northwest Defenders attorney Virginia Branham, the supervising attorney on James' case, said. "Often, with clients who are charged with (sexual exploitation), English is not their first language and they often have immigration issues, so this charge is not a good one for a client of be convicted of. ".

"In about eight years of representing defendants in such cases, Branham countered, Ive never seen a case where there has been any link to sex trafficking.

"Because solicitation stings are based entirely on an officer's claim that she made a verbal agreement to exchange sex for money, a defendant's ability to understand what an officer is saying could be a strong argument against a guilty verdict if any of those cases ever went to trial. ".

"Criminalizing sex work is broadly unpopular; during jury selection, echoing national sentiment, 23 of 25 potential jurors said they didn't think sex work should be illegal. But the city remains deeply invested in penalizing the practice and pouring resources into prosecuting men who patronize sex workers. ".

"To understand why the city puts so much energy, effort, and money into chasing down men for a low-level misdemeanor that most people think should be legal, it's helpful to know that under city law and SPD policy, sex work is virtually synonymous with human trafficking. One police source described women being sent around the country on a circuit, which police arguep revents women from developing ties or getting help. ".

[Barnie]

https://hoodline.com/2024/02/seattle...rant-arrested/

No place is safe. You would think there would be cops there.

[TroutMaster05]

New law.

https://www.king5.com/article/news/p...b-63a17e3121b0

[Meorme]

Lmao you'd have to be retarded to believe the cia follows the law in any way shape or form.

They were caught spying on senate intelligence committee a decade ago because they were investigating the cia's abuses in the war on terror.

I'm just a little confused with the whole premise you guys seem to have jumped on that if someone was actually using this as some kinda spy operation if would have to be the CIA?

[VikVaughanKon]

Lmao you'd have to be retarded to believe the cia follows the law in any way shape or form.

They were caught spying on senate intelligence committee a decade ago because they were investigating the cia's abuses in the war on terror.

[LookingX]

I believe honeypots are against US law and the CIA no longer uses the technique. The art of espionage has been described as the art of following your national law while violating other countries laws so it's likely that Chinese and the Russian still use them.

If this was an intelligence operation, the girls would not know anything about it. You think they train spies at CIA and then have them suck dick 10 hours a day at a massage parlor? LOL. Trafficked girls make the absolute perfect assets in a honeypot operation. They do whatever there pimps tell them to do. No questions asked. If this was an intelligence operation they would have a home made IMSI-catcher (These are very easily built) on the premises that would capture all of the john's IMEI's numbers and have one of there lowly paid sources who works at telcomm provider lookup who these IMEI's numbers belong too for a fee. That's easily done. Honeypots are one of the oldest and best ways for an intelligence agency to develop and recruit sources (blackmail). They have been running these for a long time and all over the world. Your local massage parlor down the street could be apart of a dragnet operation by the CIA and you would never know. If you are working with sensitive material at your workplace use a burner phone or put your phone into airplane mode (with bluetooth and wifi off) shortly before you get to your intended destination and always pay cash. Park away from the building where there security cameras could not catch your license plate.

[Lee Groinman]

Another pos pimp busted for trafficking 2 girls from oregon, aged 15 and 12 (I believe). https://komonews.com/news/local/bell...is-judge-court.

[ProJohn1]

Yeah, the article is a good read, but contradicts itself a lot. Says that the goal of the honeypot would get to recruit assets, but then that the prostitutes were trafficked. Ummm, trafficked hoes are not trained souls that are recruiting assets. It reads as pure speculation. Not saying that it couldn't have been what they are claiming, but the article is all over the place.

If this was an intelligence operation, the girls would not know anything about it. You think they train spies at CIA and then have them suck dick 10 hours a day at a massage parlor? LOL. Trafficked girls make the absolute perfect assets in a honeypot operation. They do whatever there pimps tell them to do. No questions asked. If this was an intelligence operation they would have a home made IMSI-catcher (These are very easily built) on the premises that would capture all of the john's IMEI's numbers and have one of there lowly paid sources who works at telcomm provider lookup who these IMEI's numbers belong too for a fee. That's easily done. Honeypots are one of the oldest and best ways for an intelligence agency to develop and recruit sources (blackmail). They have been running these for a long time and all over the world. Your local massage parlor down the street could be apart of a dragnet operation by the CIA and you would never know. If you are working with sensitive material at your workplace use a burner phone or put your phone into airplane mode (with bluetooth and wifi off) shortly before you get to your intended destination and always pay cash. Park away from the building where there security cameras could not catch your license plate.

[VikVaughanKon]

Yeah, the article is a good read, but contradicts itself a lot. Says that the goal of the honeypot would get to recruit assets, but then that the prostitutes were trafficked. Ummm, trafficked hoes are not trained souls that are recruiting assets. It reads as pure speculation. Not saying that it couldn't have been what they are claiming, but the article is all over the place.

They don't have to necessarily conflict, the girls might not have known at all who the johns are (probably better they don't know anything tbh) but if there are cameras placed in the units anyone who is really determined can use footage to scrape facebook or linkedin for compromising information about johns.

Dailymail is uh. Not sending their best though, you're right about that.