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[Hoballer]

My stance on this is well-known around these parts by now, but I'll reiterate that the city council had a hand in creating the current problem of the higher-rate of prostitution along Aurora. Since they repealed the loitering laws in summer of 2020, the number of SWs out there has increased along with other issues (shootings, etc). Further, repealing the laws meant that police are not able to stop and question SWs who are standing at the corners, something which they did previously. By doing that they could ID and get intelligence about what was going on out there including finding minors and those who might be trafficked. I'd argue that since the repealing of the loitering laws in 2020 the number of underage SWs out there has gone up. Several times i've been spooked for just talking to an SW who seemed too young, something which didn't happen as often along Aurora prior to 2020. Anecdotal, I know, but there do seem to be younger girls out there in the past few years. There's nobody out there checking on anybody and all of the girls and pimps know it. If the city truly wants to get a handle on all of the crazy going on along AA, then sending vice back out to target the girls will be a step. Just going after johns or so-called "exploiters" isn't doing it, they're going to have to pursue both sides if they truly want to make any kind of dent. Of course they'll never completely eliminate it, but just prior to 2020 the scene out there along AA was actually pretty dead. What I don't get is how the city keeps saying that ALL sex workers are being exploited and are victims yet they aren't doing anything to actually help them.

Legalizing or decriminalizing it would be better, but we're a ways off from that.

Here's another news story about this topic from KOMO -

https://komonews.com/news/local/councilmember-suggests-loitering-law-return-to-combat-sex-trafficking-in-seattle-crime-police-department-spd-national-guard-law-enforcement-public-safety-meeting-washington-king-county-hot-spot-police-shootings-shots-fired-dead-assault-theft-prostitution

https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/au...-loitering-law

If they reinstated the loitering law like that council member wants it would certainly make finding good deals and unicorns even more challenging if they are lighting guys up for stopping.

[PyroJinx]

https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/au...-loitering-law

If they reinstated the loitering law like that council member wants it would certainly make finding good deals and unicorns even more challenging if they are lighting guys up for stopping.

[MaCross19]

Dude was paying her 10 k a month. Though she sounds like she was all up for his games and playing a few of her own. https://x.com/choeshow/status/178610...ULYJjLHmxPT5XQ.

[Marko Ramius]

Yet the stripper let him in her home! WTF?

Sounds like an abusive ex to me. And a lot of times the victim will let them in because they will just be angrier and damage property forcing their way in. Calling the cops won't help because by the time the cops get there much of the damage is done.

[LuvMeAbbw]

Strip Club Regular.

This guy was socially weird. Kittens had issues with him.

Yet the stripper let him in her home! WTF?

[Facials]

She was found fully nude in his bed. Dead for about 24 hours the reports say. Death by strangulation.

Strip Club Regular.

This guy was socially weird. Kittens had issues with him.

[PyroJinx]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C6bmHt1xig4/

Local Stripper Murdered by a Bothell City Council Member.

She was found fully nude in his bed. Dead for about 24 hours the reports say. Death by strangulation.

[GangBangLeader]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C6bmHt1xig4/

Local Stripper Murdered by a Bothell City Council Member.

[PyroJinx]

I had to laugh at that Drexl Spivey wannabe. What a joke.

I seen that guy around quite a lot. He's always hanging out at the ARCO. I wonder if the doc guy asked them any tough questions in the full version. Somebody here get that guys patreon and upload the full version to youtube for us.

One thing I'd like to point out is how feminine a lot of those pimps are. Not only that appeared in this doc but pimps in general these days are very fem in my experience with them. The dude is bragging about getting hand and feet pedicures. I suspect a lot of them are on the DL.

[Absence]

I had to laugh at that Drexl Spivey wannabe. What a joke.

I don't like this doc guy but I can't stop watching.

[KitWalker1967]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsN-2eNAnhE

Some guy on youtube made a little documentary about Aurora Avenue. I guess the full version is on his patreon. I don't know the full length. I saw one of the pimps that I follow on IG had put his clip of him in this docu up on it where they talked to him and followed him around etc.

I had to laugh at that Drexl Spivey wannabe. What a joke.

[Hoballer]

Wow, Irish is looking bad. Not surprised, though. She looked alright for a while, was a good date, haven't seen her around for a long time. Definitely gone downhill in that time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsN-2eNAnhE

Some guy on youtube made a little documentary about Aurora Avenue. I guess the full version is on his patreon. I don't know the full length. I saw one of the pimps that I follow on IG had put his clip of him in this docu up on it where they talked to him and followed him around etc.

[PyroJinx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsN-2eNAnhE

Some guy on youtube made a little documentary about Aurora Avenue. I guess the full version is on his patreon. I don't know the full length. I saw one of the pimps that I follow on IG had put his clip of him in this docu up on it where they talked to him and followed him around etc.

[Zomfg]

"Criminalizing sex work is broadly unpopular; during jury selection, echoing national sentiment, 23 of 25 potential jurors said they didn't think sex work should be illegal. But the city remains deeply invested in penalizing the practice and pouring resources into prosecuting men who patronize sex workers. ".

Give this to the other 2 out of 25, maybe they'll open their minds a little bit:

[Hoballer]

This article is from February but I thought it was an interesting read. It details the kind of alleged johns who are usually busted in john stings along Aurora - men who don't speak good English as well as minorities. Out of all the charges of Sexual Exploitation filed against alleged johns in Seattle last year, only one fought the city and he won his case. The vast majority of alleged johns plea-out (community service, john school, probation) because the case will be dropped and it can be expensive to fight the charge. The article mentions that SPD does not record their stings so often it's the cop's word against the alleged john's word. Last year I had a consultation with a lawyer and he told me the same thing. Apparently it's difficult to prove, but the city has to prove that the john actually committed the crime and without a recording that can be interesting. According to this article, the city appears to be trying to convince a jury that all sex workers are trafficked and are therefore victims and as a result all johns should be arrested and charged. What's odd to me is that the city tries so hard to entangle ALL sex work with trafficking, yet the city isn't out on AA asking the SWs if they need help or resources. They leave that to churches and volunteers. Ask any SW out there if a city employee has approached her and asked if she needs help and she'll tell you that nobody from the city has ever talked to her at all. The city talks a big game, but ultimately in the end does nothing to help anyone. What's also interesting to me is that the city repealed the prostitution loitering laws in 2020 because they found that minorities and under-served populations were getting caught-up in the laws. Interesting that the same logic doesn't seem to apply to alleged johns. It's my view that citizens need to start talking to the city council and attending meetings. They've got everything all wrong and have been the main instigators in creating the current situation out on Aurora.

https://publicola.com/2024/02/12/des...n-on-sex-work/

Some interesting points form the article -.

"Because undercover officers don't wear video cameras or carry recording devices and don't collect money from the men they target, the outcome of prostitution cases depends almost entirely on whose story the jury believes. Without tangible evidence proving that James was guilty, the prosecutors tried to tell a story about a hypothetical woman forced into sex work by circumstances beyond her control. ".

"I don't think I've ever had a white, English-speaking client charged with this," Northwest Defenders attorney Virginia Branham, the supervising attorney on James' case, said. "Often, with clients who are charged with (sexual exploitation), English is not their first language and they often have immigration issues, so this charge is not a good one for a client of be convicted of. ".

"In about eight years of representing defendants in such cases, Branham countered, Ive never seen a case where there has been any link to sex trafficking.

"Because solicitation stings are based entirely on an officer's claim that she made a verbal agreement to exchange sex for money, a defendant's ability to understand what an officer is saying could be a strong argument against a guilty verdict if any of those cases ever went to trial. ".

"Criminalizing sex work is broadly unpopular; during jury selection, echoing national sentiment, 23 of 25 potential jurors said they didn't think sex work should be illegal. But the city remains deeply invested in penalizing the practice and pouring resources into prosecuting men who patronize sex workers. ".

"To understand why the city puts so much energy, effort, and money into chasing down men for a low-level misdemeanor that most people think should be legal, it's helpful to know that under city law and SPD policy, sex work is virtually synonymous with human trafficking. One police source described women being sent around the country on a circuit, which police arguep revents women from developing ties or getting help. ".