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  1. #690

    Myrtle Beach, SC Sting

    It looks like Atlantic Beach is only about a mile from the sting location. While it would seem he would know about the monger climate that close, the Atlantic Beach police may be equivalent to a small campus-like force. In other words, not Atlantic City, NJ.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyD53  [View Original Post]
    A police chief was caught up in a sting? Wow.

  2. #689
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    Another suggestion: Never see a brand new provider.

    Quote Originally Posted by OlderNotWiser  [View Original Post]
    https://wpde.com/news/local/prostitu...south-carolina

    Trying to figure what to do different then these guys.

    I guess never talk $ over the phone or text. If $ not in the ad then it's hard to know.

    I guess always do a le check (grope) at the door before you pay. I'm usually to gentle to do it unless the girl initiates it first. That might be a costly mistake.

    Myrtle Beach used to be wide open, escorts, AMPs, street walkers and a lot of happy golfers. It's now basically dry. I'm sure that's why these guys jumped at the chance.
    If you think about it, LEO stings basically work by throwing up a new ad as bait and then reeling in all the fish that bite. Setting up a motel sting requires a bit of extra logistics because more manpower is needed to ensure officer safety, transport arrestees, and deal with other possible issues like someone who has an outstanding warrant or is in possession of drugs.

    It's not a hugely heavy lift, but it's enough that there's a built-in incentive to make it a one-off operation (that can be rolled out when needed) rather than an ongoing thing. Also, because they nearly always bag a significant number of fish, there's really no reason to change the model.

    That means you're more at risk seeing a provider who has little or no ad history, and no reviews (from credible sources). For a Listcrawler ad, scrolling down and clicking on "More Pics" takes you to a page where you can see any previous ads on that site. If all you see is a day or two of ads, that's a red flag. If it's another ad site, try a web search for the phone number, or an image search for the pics. And, of course, check the local forums for info.

    It's true that areas that are relatively "dry" will have more mongers willing to jump at the bait, but doing so is a high-risk proposition. It's also true that many mongers think that they're sting-savvy enough to stay out of trouble. What they need to realize is that the threshold for getting arrested in a sting is rather low. If you simply show up at the door, LEO can use that fact + the fact that you responded to an ad (clearly advertising sexual services) to support the arrest. Even if you were careful not to be explicit on the phone or in text messages, and even if you don't say anything incriminating in person, they're likely to cop (pun intended) a "tell it to the judge" attitude and slap the cuffs on. Some might think they could claim the arrest was unlawful, but that's a hard case to make and you'll have to hire a lawyer and go to court, no matter what. And, of course, everything will be excruciatingly public!

    The only safe and sensible practice is to think with the big head and never take the bait. And also important to remember that, once you've bitten down on the hook, you're unlikely to be able to shake it out.

  3. #688

    Sting

    A police chief was caught up in a sting? Wow.

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  5. #686

    Myrtle Beach Motel Sting

    https://wpde.com/news/local/prostitu...south-carolina

    Trying to figure what to do different then these guys.

    I guess never talk $ over the phone or text. If $ not in the ad then it's hard to know.

    I guess always do a le check (grope) at the door before you pay. I'm usually to gentle to do it unless the girl initiates it first. That might be a costly mistake.

    Myrtle Beach used to be wide open, escorts, AMPs, street walkers and a lot of happy golfers. It's now basically dry. I'm sure that's why these guys jumped at the chance.

  6. #685
    What a waste of time and resources.

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  8. #683

    Elegant Spa

    See my comment in the Massage Parlor thread regarding the sister Elegant Spa on Greensboro Drive in Tysons Corner. Three therapists currently working there.

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  10. #681
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    Posts: 1844

    Non-paywall link

    Quote Originally Posted by LowerBackPain  [View Original Post]
    While I love the hear the providers and MTs speak and write in their native tongue, Mr. Lee should only sign official and work-related documents in English. You're correct in that uncLE should focus more of their time on violent and property-related crimes in addition to getting rid of dangerous drugs like fentanyl.
    https://archive.is/A203r

    Unfortunately, this inter-agency kerfuffle will not have any effect on LE priorities. Efforts to stamp out "trafficking" will continue because they are fueled by the twin drivers of community sentiment (which = votes for politicians) and money (as in federal and state grants). One, or both, of those will have to change in order for there to be a material effect on the policing of consensual adult behavior.

  11. #680

    100% Correct

    While I love the hear the providers and MTs speak and write in their native tongue, Mr. Lee should only sign official and work-related documents in English. You're correct in that uncLE should focus more of their time on violent and property-related crimes in addition to getting rid of dangerous drugs like fentanyl.

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSmithAbq  [View Original Post]
    This article shows us the priorities of LEO in NoVa and what issues keep them busy as they harass hard working providers and law abiding hobbyists.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md...ese-signature/

    (if the article is behind a paywall, a google search on the terms in the headlines should point you to other articles).

  12. #679

    LEO priorities

    This article shows us the priorities of LEO in NoVa and what issues keep them busy as they harass hard working providers and law abiding hobbyists.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md...ese-signature/

    (if the article is behind a paywall, a google search on the terms in the headlines should point you to other articles).

  13. #678

    Oh what a wonderful dream

    Quote Originally Posted by Serpin58  [View Original Post]
    Don't support an industry that in slaves people not all do, but a lot them do. Or how about honoring your wife or GF. You wouldn't want them going somewhere getting pleasure from another man. Honoring your parents that raised you better. Or your God if you have one- From an ex-monger alcoholic- I'm freed from this. Happy Easter god bless all of you.
    Except you're not exactly as free from this life as you would believe. For you are still here snooping around this board. So at the very least, the compulsion, that little maggot of addiction is there tick tick ticking in the back of your skull. Eradicating your presence from this board entirely is the only real way to prove that this beast has truly released its treacherous grip upon you.

    Silence speaks volumes.

  14. #677
    Troll, if you don't ignore me then don't complain about what I post


    Posts: 99

    How about just don't go at all. Then you don't have to worry about it

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    Stay away from business locations that are open to the public. That includes Asian massage parlors, Latina massage parlors, and (insert other description here) massage parlors. Any businesses like these that serve the public are subject to inspection and LE visits without notice. If a monger gets caught inside during a surprise visit, they can feign ignorance and innocence but LE will put them through the grinder before releasing them. If they get caught mid-stroke, then that's a much higher level of LE-induced pain. As a last resort, try to visit at a time when a surprise visit is less likely.

    It's also better to avoid ACS, LCS, and agencies, all of which usually operate from apartments. While LE needs a warrant before they can gain entry, those are still potentially on the Anti-Trafficking radar. Your safest bet would be to patronize well-reviewed indies. Please note that I said safest, not best. Your particular mongering tastes will determine your personal risk-reward calculation.

    I posted some other thoughts here:

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6817626

    Situational awareness is always a good thing, but it's not foolproof. If you're inside the room (or maybe inside your provider?) when a sting goes down, you're going to be detained, identified, and questioned (at a minimum).
    Don't support an industry that in slaves people not all do, but a lot them do. Or how about honoring your wife or GF. You wouldn't want them going somewhere getting pleasure from another man. Honoring your parents that raised you better. Or your God if you have one- From an ex-monger alcoholic- I'm freed from this. Happy Easter god bless all of you.

  15. #676
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1844

    Some thoughts on avoiding the dreaded Anti-Trafficking sting!

    Quote Originally Posted by JackRyan1  [View Original Post]
    Of course he does not.

    He held a press conference detailing the operations of the trafficker's.

    Give 10 m people crossing the boarder.

    And the rise of latinas working out of temporary office space fronting as massage service it's only a matter of time.

    There are a couple latinas working out of a first floor temp office space in Springfield.

    Situational awareness, keep your Head on a swivel.
    Stay away from business locations that are open to the public. That includes Asian massage parlors, Latina massage parlors, and (insert other description here) massage parlors. Any businesses like these that serve the public are subject to inspection and LE visits without notice. If a monger gets caught inside during a surprise visit, they can feign ignorance and innocence but LE will put them through the grinder before releasing them. If they get caught mid-stroke, then that's a much higher level of LE-induced pain. As a last resort, try to visit at a time when a surprise visit is less likely.

    It's also better to avoid ACS, LCS, and agencies, all of which usually operate from apartments. While LE needs a warrant before they can gain entry, those are still potentially on the Anti-Trafficking radar. Your safest bet would be to patronize well-reviewed indies. Please note that I said safest, not best. Your particular mongering tastes will determine your personal risk-reward calculation.

    I posted some other thoughts here:

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6817626

    Situational awareness is always a good thing, but it's not foolproof. If you're inside the room (or maybe inside your provider?) when a sting goes down, you're going to be detained, identified, and questioned (at a minimum).

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