2000-2004 Archived Reports

[Nik98]

Not from California but had a dream about being there. Happened to be in Hayward and continued heading towards Oakland on Mission which is E14 and then International BLVD.

Saw at least 100 if not more BSWs. I have never seen anything like it, especially in my dreams. It was so vivid. Most were in the range of 2-5 on the SW scale.

Picked up a diamond in the rough, claimed she was 21 (believable). Had a bit too much to drink though cos' she kept on choking on the member and almost ready to throw up. I couldn't get into it because that would have been disgusting. Kept it in the mouth throughout and even offered FS, too cramped, tried and gave up. No money was exchanged for the deed because that would be illegal. Even in my dreams, I am thinking legality of a situation.

Gave me her number after the deed, told me to call her the next day. I never did. I didn't intend to be there. Next time I am in town, will try other areas recommended.

And then I woke up.

Comparitively, is Oakland cheaper than San Francisco?

[F Nord]

There's a "new" (nine months or so, I just learned about it) massage studio/spa on the west side of Berkeley. Visited Friday. I'll be going back. My masseuse was Mickey, I didn't ask her ancestry but probably Chinese, Korean or Vietnamese. 9 body, 8 face, 9 service. Pretty good massage, but short (though she did recommend the $40/30 minute rather than the $50/45 minute). Excellent HJ (.4) with naked cuddling. Almost a GFE, she let me k her but did not k me back. Through the international language of mime I asked what other services were available. She did a dance move from The Time Warp, and said next time ($). Payday's Friday; most of it's going to the rent, but let's see what's left over.

[Pozadam]

TRAILER TRASH:

The last 3-4 blocks on W. MacArthur (where Mosswood Park is) has basically dried up, I've noticed over the last 5 years or so. When I make my run in this area I still do a perfunctory drive out to Broadway on the odd chance that there might be a girl, but honestly, I think driving past Telegraph anymore is pretty much a waste of time. In fact, I can only think of two instances where I found a girl i was interested in along this stretch in the last ten years. As for it being a rough area, well this is all relative. Honestly, that part of the run is not as scary to me as the rest of W. Macarthur or further into Oakland, but it's all kind of sketchy really.

W. Grand I'll occasionally try, but I haven't seen anything there in recent years either. One thing I forgot to mention is that if you have the fortitude to go all the way into skid row at the end of the San Pablo run in Oakland, you can often find girls on the loop back if you just go a block west where the drunks hang out at the park and proceed to Brush st. It's just one intersection, but some people may miss this. But again, the girls here are rarely ones I'd want to pick up.

BAY BOY:

It was CBJ & FS at my place. The "run" is literally part of my daily commute! This one had actually been in a couple of porrn films, or so she said. Looks 9, Service 8. No kissing. No complaints really. I'll tell you though, what is amazing to me is how consistent it is: You find a BSW in her late 30s or 40s and man she will tear you up any which way you want and then some. I found a delightfully sweet 42 yo BSW a couple weeks ago who came like 5 times and it was just a total GFE for $40. As they get younger and prettier it's increasingly hands-off, impersonal eye candy and more money out of the wallet. The only exceptions are the REALLY young and NEW girls who haven't become jaded yet. I don't think this is about age or looks of the custormers, just a supply-demand issue. Fellas, don't overlook these older gals. They have a lot to offer if you can get past the eye candy thing.

As for the safety thing, I dont' think I've ever been the victim of theft, unless you call the prices some of these girls charge theft..ha. I have to admit, for all my LE precautions, I tend to be a pretty crappy negotiator so I'm sure I've paid more over the years than I should have, but I do like your idea about taking only x amount out and hiding the wallet, because if they smell green in your wallet they will try every which way to sunday to get more of it. Good suggestion.

[Pozadam]

TRAILER TRASH:

The last 3-4 blocks on W. MacArthur (where Mosswood Park is) has basically dried up, I've noticed over the last 5 years or so. When I make my run in this area I still do a perfunctory drive out to Broadway on the odd chance that there might be a girl, but honestly, I think driving past Telegraph anymore is pretty much a waste of time. In fact, I can only think of two instances where I found a girl i was interested in along this stretch in the last ten years. As for it being a rough area, well this is all relative. Honestly, that part of the run is not as scary to me as the rest of W. Macarthur or further into Oakland, but it's all kind of sketchy really.

W. Grand I'll occasionally try, but I haven't seen anything there in recent years either. One thing I forgot to mention is that if you have the fortitude to go all the way into skid row at the end of the San Pablo run in Oakland, you can often find girls on the loop back if you just go a block west where the drunks hang out at the park and proceed to Brush st. It's just one intersection, but some people may miss this. But again, the girls here are rarely ones I'd want to pick up.

BAY BOY:

It was CBJ & FS at my place. The "run" is literally part of my daily commute! This one had actually been in a couple of porrn films, or so she said. Looks 9, Service 8. No kissing. No complaints really. I'll tell you though, what is amazing to me is how consistent it is: You find a BSW in her late 30s or 40s and man she will tear you up any which way you want and then some. I found a delightfully sweet 42 yo BSW a couple weeks ago who came like 5 times and it was just a total GFE for $40. As they get younger and prettier it's increasingly hands-off, impersonal eye candy and more money out of the wallet. The only exceptions are the REALLY young and NEW girls who haven't become jaded yet. I don't think this is about age or looks of the custormers, just a supply-demand issue. Fellas, don't overlook these older gals. They have a lot to offer if you can get past the eye candy thing.

As for the safety thing, I dont' think I've ever been the victim of theft, unless you call the prices some of these girls charge theft..ha. I have to admit, for all my LE precautions, I tend to be a pretty crappy negotiator so I'm sure I've paid more over the years than I should have, but I do like your idea about taking only x amount out and hiding the wallet, because if they smell green in your wallet they will try every which way to sunday to get more of it. Good suggestion...

[BayBoy]

POZADAM

I'm just curious, but what did you get for your $100? Did you go to a motel or was it a car date?

I'd just like to throw in my 2 cents on the safety issue. Besides the good warnings from the posters on the issue of whether or not the lady is a cop.

I always take out of my wallet the amount of money I want to spent on a SW (which for me is $30-40) and put the money in my shirt pocket, then I put my wallet and all valuables in the trunk of my car before I pick up the lady. Alot of these SW are pick pockets and very slick at it too.

Take care

[Trailer Trash]

You used to be able to pick sw up right around Mosswood park. Its got to be a pretty rough area and when I'm in town I go closer to sp/ashby area but that area around AAA used to be great.Do you try to go further down Grand?

[Pozadam]

Oh me. I found a 23 yo lovely blonde the other night at 3AM near W MacArthur and SP. A nine in my book, but I'm partial to a little meat on the bones, because that usually means big 'uns, and they did not disappoint. I'm out $100 for it tho. She was quite the persuader : ) Now that was a surprise.

Anyway, regarding the crackdown, my observation is that most of the police crackdowns in Oakland tend to be focused on International Blvd. Obviously not exclusively, and I don't want to encourage anyone to be a dumbass and get complacent, but really, you'll be ok in Oakland most of the time if you stick to the San Pablo run (especially if you stay toward the Berkeley side) and you follow the two rules:

1. Always circle around the block and stop on the side street--never the main drag.

2. Don't solicit. Never have a conversation through the window. Pass if she doesn't just get right in your car with no words exchanged, unless you have a really good feel for the situation, or unless the only thing said is "Are you a cop?" This is ESPECIALLY true for any girl above an 8 in looks/dress.

[BayBoy]

lucky888

I saw the story in the paper too. I feel sorry for those guys. Sometimes the police confiscate the guys car! Besides the write-up.

Thats why I don't go to Oakland any more.

NO, it wasn't me who got arrested in that sting, ha ha.

Take care

[Lucky888]

Oakland SW Bust

Police crack down on pimps and johns
Prostitution sting nets 65 suspects,
35 from outside city

http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82~1726~2257409,00.html

[Stepen Worl]

Hey Fellas,

I just posted to the SF section before coming over here. Should have probably waited. Great details provided by POZADAM and the items very true with some real wisdom for advice. Thank you.

I'm in Tijuana now but grew up in SF. I started driving taxi in the mid-80s and began playing with the SWs by the late 80s. Both sides of the SFBA I mongered for 10 years. Most my encounters were BSW, while most being okay to good, some were regretable. Never any arrests but some close encounters. You can search some my earlier posts for a few photos I've put up. Obviously my predelictions lay towards the backside.

I've cruised the rougher sections with a bit of success. Of course caution was raised a notch or two in these areas. $30-40 would be normal maximum price but normally less after some negotion. Yes, I'm probably a cheap ass but this is what I pay everywhere. Interestingly while living in East Oakland I recalled seeing decent looking BSW strolling around Sunday mornings through the neighborhood between E14 to San Leandro Blvd. and from 77th to 98th.

I too am curious of the Richmond area as well as others. With other economic opporitunity unlikely anytime soon to improve, there should be an increase in this type activity in most geographic areas. For South Asian types, it might just be better to save your pennies & fly to India.

F Nord, don't feel bad about the responses in SF section. I gave them them some ass shots to test em & all I got was uggh & eeeuw. Privately folks acknowledged their appreciation.

Hope to be visiting soon. Don't know if I'll engage with the SW action since I'm weary of LE. Also, it's legal over in my neck of the woods. Amazing and a shame how they try to control us through our genitals.

[BayBoy]

Pozadam,

I know that street you mentioned that is parallel to MacArthur, under the freeway. Ya I notice that theres no more girls hanging around there any more. I guess the Oakland/
Emeryville LE chased them away.

As far as my mistakes go, the no. 1 issue is if a lady is too "clean" cut it probably means shes a cop. Also if she doesn't get in my car, and just wants to talk and especially asks the price I'm willing to pay, thats a telltale sign. Another is if she says she's got a motel room right behind her for use, that raises my suspicions too.

I've been arrested for all those reasons. The Berkeley case was a good-looking lady in leather mini skirt who told me to go her motel room on University. When I got in there 5 police officers came out and gave me a citation. You talk about a waste of man power and of taxpayers money, that was it.

It shows how ridiculous the prostitution laws are in this country.

So long

[Pozadam]

BayBoy,

Can you comment on your experiences with LE? What mistakes did you make which you would know better than to make now? Or was it just bad luck?

The one close call I had was about ten years ago on that little two-block street parallel to Macarthur which is situated between MacArthur and the freeway overpass. I think this street is technically part of Emeryville (can't remember the number--thirtysomethingth?). A few years ago there were always lots of girls on this little side street and now it's totally bereft--no action anymore. I don't know why. Anyway I had stopped to talk to a cute hispanic girl and a few seconds later a cop roared up around the corner quite suddenly and stopped right on my tailpipe. I thought I was a goner but I was lucky because the girl hadn't gotten into my car yet, so I just drove off and the cop let me go, opting to hassle the girl instead. That is the only time I've ever had a brush with LE. I guess I've been lucky, but on the other hand I tend to be very very cautious and will pass if anything about the girl or the situation fires my warning sensors.

As for the decline in Berkeley, my gut feeling is that there was a steady decline overall in Oakland/Berkeley from the early 80s to about 5 years ago (probably due to AIDS fears and crackdowns). It seems to me that things have leveled off overall. I see some nights with hardly a soul and some nights with a lot of action. Sometimes the police make sweeps. I've heard that this happens frequently on Thursdays, but that may shift around.

F Nord:

I too am partial to middle-eastern and indian ladies, but I can't recall a single SW of that extraction in Oakland/Berkeley. Remember these girls have pretty conservative upbringings as a rule and many would rather starve than do that kind of work.

[F Nord]

I posted a similar message to this in the San Francisco forum a coupla months back, but the small response was discouraging. I probably should have tried here first. (If there were a Berkeley forum, it would probably even be better.)

I am especially fond of the look of ladies from India and the middle east. I don't think I've ever seen a SW of that extraction, but can anybody tell me whether there are any MPs or other providers of that sort in the area? Even the MPs in Berkeley's Little Bombay neighborhood don't seem to offer them, as far as I can tell.

Any help is appreciated. Thank you, Gentlemen.

[BayBoy]

POZADAM

As a long time cruiser and lurker in the Oakland/Berkeley area you really summed up the SW "action" scene quite acurately and right on the money. I couldn't have said it better.

I'm like you and usually concentrate on the Berkeley end of San Pablo and maybe a few blocks into Oakland past Ashby. Its alot safer that way. I just don't feel comfortable with the ladies in the other parts of Oakland.

I haven't seen much action in Berkeley lately. I figure the cops have chased the ladies off the streets for some reason.

Unfortunately for myself I've been arrested 3 times by the police. Once in Oakland, once in Berkeley and once in San Francisco dating back the last 28 years. My penalties ranged from jail time to fines and community service.

So I just want to say, BE CAREFUL out there. Its really mean streets in the 'hood.

Take care.

[Pozadam]

BTW. I'm not into BJ so much as FS, but FS tends to run me $50-60 minimum, even for the not-so-good looking ones. If you can find an 8-9, then you're gonna be shelling out at least $80 and in some cases over $100.

This judge obviously didn't know the ropes. Brockhurst is that area i referred to between 31st and 34th. Be careful there. I did find a 9 there a few months back and it was pretty good, but don't EVER let a girl tell you to "meet" her a block away like this stupid judge did. If she won't get in your car fairly quickly, run.