Massage Parlor Reports

[BlandDay]

Went back as I've had a few great experiences here w / Mia. Mia wasn't around so drew Jazey. Short (5'0), thin, Bs, OK looking lady. Grabbed by face cheek upon greeting with a "you're cute" and my ass cheeks on the way up the stairs so thought I was in for a great time but not to be.

Laid down for just an ok massage, little teasing. Kept saying how sexy I was and after the 15th time was a major turn off. By the time we got the flip I was mildly disinterested. Could get hard for anything. She asked if I wanted her to take her top off so of course said yes but she said 160 for top off + HJ. I actually started laughing on the table and said you are crazy. I said for 160 I need to CIP you or fuck you in the ass. She scoffed, told me that she would "never take her pants off" to which I responded "I don't over tip" got up and left with 15 min left & no tip. She didn't understand why no tip and I said the session ended 15 min early, take your tip out of that. She did still offer me a bottle of water on the way out.

BBFS or Covered? Was looking for a place in this area and very interested.

[Bobby Mann]

I went to Sesame 54 today, in Lansdale. Really nice inside, clean. Saw Bunny, she looks to be about 27, thin, pretty smile, dark brown hair. Great table shower massage, before the play time. DFK, BBBJ, CFS. Really impressed with her, and the Spa. Does anyone else visit here? Do all the ladies go full service?

[LurkingDog]

Went back as I've had a few great experiences here w / Mia. Mia wasn't around so drew Jazey. Short (5'0), thin, Bs, OK looking lady. Grabbed by face cheek upon greeting with a "you're cute" and my ass cheeks on the way up the stairs so thought I was in for a great time but not to be.

Laid down for just an ok massage, little teasing. Kept saying how sexy I was and after the 15th time was a major turn off. By the time we got the flip I was mildly disinterested. Could get hard for anything. She asked if I wanted her to take her top off so of course said yes but she said 160 for top off + HJ. I actually started laughing on the table and said you are crazy. I said for 160 I need to CIP you or fuck you in the ass. She scoffed, told me that she would "never take her pants off" to which I responded "I don't over tip" got up and left with 15 min left & no tip. She didn't understand why no tip and I said the session ended 15 min early, take your tip out of that. She did still offer me a bottle of water on the way out.

Sorry for your sorry experience. Glad you held "firm" and left. Better luck next time.

LD.

[Capitol Punish]

Good advice on the getting extras. I make a point of doing all of that, but I keep forgetting about the two hand gesture! Thanks for the reminder.

[PhillyDiscreet]

Went back as I've had a few great experiences here w / Mia. Mia wasn't around so drew Jazey. Short (5'0), thin, Bs, OK looking lady. Grabbed by face cheek upon greeting with a "you're cute" and my ass cheeks on the way up the stairs so thought I was in for a great time but not to be.

Laid down for just an ok massage, little teasing. Kept saying how sexy I was and after the 15th time was a major turn off. By the time we got the flip I was mildly disinterested. Could get hard for anything. She asked if I wanted her to take her top off so of course said yes but she said 160 for top off + HJ. I actually started laughing on the table and said you are crazy. I said for 160 I need to CIP you or fuck you in the ass. She scoffed, told me that she would "never take her pants off" to which I responded "I don't over tip" got up and left with 15 min left & no tip. She didn't understand why no tip and I said the session ended 15 min early, take your tip out of that. She did still offer me a bottle of water on the way out.

[WookieCookie33]

Today I visited Evergreen. Tina is a taller girl than I've been used to seeing. Probably 5' 7" or 8". She was more than skin and bones. Very proportionate to her height. Most of the other girls you could feel every bone. She had the biggest tits I've seen on the Korean Girl. She did tell me she was Korean. When she first walked into the room I thought I saw a look of disappointment on her face. I don't know why. However I soon won her over. It could have been me just being polite or the large tip I promised her. Handed her 70 for the house fee. Went to the table shower. Standard stuff there. Nothing like Emma but good anyway. Back to the massage room. She asked me what I wanted, told her full service. Wanted to know How much I would tip. Told her 160. I'm finding out lately that no matter what figure I give them they want more. We agreed on 180. When I first started there I gave them a figure and it was agreed upon right away. I'm wondering if being such a regular there may be profile notes started on me. Anyway, the massage started. She gave me a super hard back massage. I guess being a taller girl she got more leverage. Popped my back a couple times. Felt good. Haha. On the flip she got naked and ran her hands all over everything. The 10 minute CBJ was good. The cowgirl action was even better. It didn't take long for me to unload. The whole experience was great. I'll be going back again next month.

Oh, I also used a couple of pointers from comments here the other day. I commented to the madam about how nice everything looked each time I come there. I also handed Tina the money with both hands. I never knew about that. I pretty much already did all of the other suggestions. Fresh shower and nice clothes. I really think that helps.

I did some asking around. Apparently there is a new MMS at EG309 after a long time under the old MMS. She's not well liked by anyone. HF+160 is pretty much the new basic price but a few people have commented that with the new MMS the girls want to negotiate harder / longer and give the cold shoulder treatment if they can't get you to go higher than the 160 tip for basic services. I was also told to ask for a different girl or just leave if the girl with the c-section scar is who I get. An acquaintance recommended that I just avoid EG right now and either start TOFTT at some new spots or just go to philly as the hassle factor will be the same at a 309 or a new unknown place at this point. I guess might go see if hand healing is ok without skye or the new market has changed them. I'd hate to not have any place outside of philly as an option. Of course, YMMV and this is what I have heard from some people I message and from some partial reviews that were much more recent. Its sad when old reliable staples start to go downhill.

[WookieCookie33]

Today I visited Evergreen. Tina is a taller girl than I've been used to seeing. Probably 5' 7" or 8". She was more than skin and bones. Very proportionate to her height. Most of the other girls you could feel every bone. She had the biggest tits I've seen on the Korean Girl. She did tell me she was Korean. When she first walked into the room I thought I saw a look of disappointment on her face. I don't know why. However I soon won her over. It could have been me just being polite or the large tip I promised her. Handed her 70 for the house fee. Went to the table shower. Standard stuff there. Nothing like Emma but good anyway. Back to the massage room. She asked me what I wanted, told her full service. Wanted to know How much I would tip. Told her 160. I'm finding out lately that no matter what figure I give them they want more. We agreed on 180. When I first started there I gave them a figure and it was agreed upon right away. I'm wondering if being such a regular there may be profile notes started on me. Anyway, the massage started. She gave me a super hard back massage. I guess being a taller girl she got more leverage. Popped my back a couple times. Felt good. Haha. On the flip she got naked and ran her hands all over everything. The 10 minute CBJ was good. The cowgirl action was even better. It didn't take long for me to unload. The whole experience was great. I'll be going back again next month.

Oh, I also used a couple of pointers from comments here the other day. I commented to the madam about how nice everything looked each time I come there. I also handed Tina the money with both hands. I never knew about that. I pretty much already did all of the other suggestions. Fresh shower and nice clothes. I really think that helps.

I haven't been to evergreen in a good bit. Maybe a little over a year now but I never spent more than 220 for a visit. Have prices gone up that much recently?

[PhillyDiscreet]

Today I visited Evergreen. Tina is a taller girl than I've been used to seeing. Probably 5' 7" or 8". She was more than skin and bones. Very proportionate to her height. Most of the other girls you could feel every bone. She had the biggest tits I've seen on the Korean Girl. She did tell me she was Korean. When she first walked into the room I thought I saw a look of disappointment on her face. I don't know why. However I soon won her over. It could have been me just being polite or the large tip I promised her. Handed her 70 for the house fee. Went to the table shower. Standard stuff there. Nothing like Emma but good anyway. Back to the massage room. She asked me what I wanted, told her full service. Wanted to know How much I would tip. Told her 160. I'm finding out lately that no matter what figure I give them they want more. We agreed on 180. When I first started there I gave them a figure and it was agreed upon right away. I'm wondering if being such a regular there may be profile notes started on me. Anyway, the massage started. She gave me a super hard back massage. I guess being a taller girl she got more leverage. Popped my back a couple times. Felt good. Haha. On the flip she got naked and ran her hands all over everything. The 10 minute CBJ was good. The cowgirl action was even better. It didn't take long for me to unload. The whole experience was great. I'll be going back again next month.

Oh, I also used a couple of pointers from comments here the other day. I commented to the madam about how nice everything looked each time I come there. I also handed Tina the money with both hands. I never knew about that. I pretty much already did all of the other suggestions. Fresh shower and nice clothes. I really think that helps.

180 + 70 HF for CBJ is absurd. As customers, if a price at Home Dept is too much, you have to be willing to walk away and go to Lowes or whomever has a lower price. Only way they will learn.

Once you start to walk away most times they will cave.

[SamSmiles01]

Today I visited Evergreen. Tina is a taller girl than I've been used to seeing. Probably 5' 7" or 8". She was more than skin and bones. Very proportionate to her height. Most of the other girls you could feel every bone. She had the biggest tits I've seen on the Korean Girl. She did tell me she was Korean. When she first walked into the room I thought I saw a look of disappointment on her face. I don't know why. However I soon won her over. It could have been me just being polite or the large tip I promised her. Handed her 70 for the house fee. Went to the table shower. Standard stuff there. Nothing like Emma but good anyway. Back to the massage room. She asked me what I wanted, told her full service. Wanted to know How much I would tip. Told her 160. I'm finding out lately that no matter what figure I give them they want more. We agreed on 180. When I first started there I gave them a figure and it was agreed upon right away. I'm wondering if being such a regular there may be profile notes started on me. Anyway, the massage started. She gave me a super hard back massage. I guess being a taller girl she got more leverage. Popped my back a couple times. Felt good. Haha. On the flip she got naked and ran her hands all over everything. The 10 minute CBJ was good. The cowgirl action was even better. It didn't take long for me to unload. The whole experience was great. I'll be going back again next month.

Oh, I also used a couple of pointers from comments here the other day. I commented to the madam about how nice everything looked each time I come there. I also handed Tina the money with both hands. I never knew about that. I pretty much already did all of the other suggestions. Fresh shower and nice clothes. I really think that helps.

[GhostScore]

Not to throw cold water on anything, as I hear your frustration! It does take a LOT of time to sift through things, just be patient with the process. I found it gets easier as I trained my eye to spot fakes.

As far as AMPs go, here is some general advice on how to avoid stumbles:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...-Good-Customer

I see about 35% of guys get rejected at the git-go because they are ignorant and start with the wrong approach. So for starters, avoid those faux paus.

As far as menu expansions go, there are several things.

1) Not every girl or Spa offers "extras" and of those who do, it is up to the individual girl as to how far she will go. Some girls will only do everything covered, some might do BBBJ and a rare few BBFS. But that is up to the girl and can be highly dependent on her mood, her perception of you, her prejudices, etc.

2) Can't emphasize this enough, but showing up clean (freshly showered), nice cologne, clean finger nails, nice clothes and good shoes all set a good first impression. I think this is key.

While this is great advice for someone just getting started, most of which is my common practice. Kinda defeated the purpose of asking for girls or AMPs suggestions. I'm just newish to PA. Old hat to the game. Just seems to be 200% more fakes here than where I was previously. The latest scam where they tell you to bring a gift card. Priceless. So like my previous question to all you mongers out there. Any recommendations?

[WookieCookie33]

That's some great advice on the AMP's. Everything mentioned there was spot on. The only thing I would add is that once you think you've found a place. Google it. If they only take cash that's a real good indicator that extras are available. I'd call and make an appointment to.

Read all the reviews on google (Type the address into google maps and then use the business name to click on and look at google reviews, I was amazed how explicit some reviews get) and yelp too. If you can read between the lines its obvious who offers extras and who doesn't. Also tend to see men praise a place but "karens"/ civillian women complain about rude service, LOL. Plug phone numbers into a couple different search engines and you usually end up on a few AMP review sites if they have been around longer than 6 months.

[WookieCookie33]

Not to throw cold water on anything, as I hear your frustration! It does take a LOT of time to sift through things, just be patient with the process. I found it gets easier as I trained my eye to spot fakes.

As far as AMPs go, here is some general advice on how to avoid stumbles:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...-Good-Customer

I see about 35% of guys get rejected at the git-go because they are ignorant and start with the wrong approach. So for starters, avoid those faux paus.

As far as menu expansions go, there are several things.

1) Not every girl or Spa offers "extras" and of those who do, it is up to the individual girl as to how far she will go. Some girls will only do everything covered, some might do BBBJ and a rare few BBFS. But that is up to the girl and can be highly dependent on her mood, her perception of you, her prejudices, etc..

Great and to the point advice there that takes most guys years to figure out on their own!

I have always maintained that hygiene and manners / etiquette are the key to tilting the scales in your favor for good service most of the time. Do your due diligence on different places that you know offer the services you want and the normal fees / tips for the establishments; there is no real excuse not to do this as there are many resources online to give you basics. Look into what is polite and good manners in Asian countries but focus on Korea, Thailand and the Philippines. I treat my visits like casual dates and dress appropriately to look nice and clean but not to stand out. Think business casual lunch date with a woman you want to date. I trim, file and clean my fingernails. I manscape a bit to tidy things up and for better hygiene. Have a fresh or recent haircut and shave (do 2 or 3 passes to get as close and clean as possible). Five o=clock shadow can be considered impolite or insulting when doing business or dating. Take extra care to clean areas where smells might form faster / early (I use a bit of alum block and withazel in these areas as long as its a spot I don't expect to get licked or tasted. My experience is that if you act and treat people like professionals they usually act and respond like professionals. Look presentable, professional and safe. Your first time at the door you meet Mama-san / Manager. She will assess you through the camera first and then again if she decides to let you in. At many places she is going to decide who you get or have access to. She's going to decide if they want you as a regular or not. Your experience (s) at that AMP are going to largely influenced by this person and she is there to over see a "Business". I am always polite, friendly with mama-san and I try to compliment something about the business or if its a return visit I compliment the service and how well the establishment is bein run / managed. I am discrete and never discuss anything more than a massage until I am alone with the masseuse assigned to me. Early or initial visits I communicate clearly and I always accept the table shower so the girl can assess my hygiene and I can use that opportunity to touch a leg, ass or whatever when she goes to clean a more private area to show I am good with it and so she has an easy low key way to turn me down if there was a misunderstanding and those services aren't available. I had one girl who was super cautious and tentative with me. She ran a finger down the crack of my ass very lightly and very slowly near the end of the table shower and I ran my hand up the inside of her leg and ran my fingers lightly over her crotch. 2 minutes later I had a tongue in my ass. She was not shy or tentative from there.

I also always hand or accepts things or money with two hands and thank them when I accept what I am receiving. Being more polite and structured upfront seems to make my requests during session much more accepted. I'm never pushy or aggressive, at least not without asking or informing the girl its something I want to do so they can decline. Once I have a rapport with a girl and the mamasan I never had issues with requests but I am not too extreme and the first couple visits I usually just go with the flow of their established script till we are comfortable with each other before I ask about something off script. Depending on the place I usually pay the house fee first and I hand that directly to whoever takes it but when I'm alone with girl I count out the tip, tell her I want "everything" and then I place that money on the table while making eye contact. They nod and accept it or negotiate then pick the money up off the table. I always do that on the first or second time with a girl at an AMP. Denotes a difference between HF and the "tips" and it indirectly indicates what I expect without explicit talk.

As for colognes. I wear them but stick to low key stuff. Fresh, aquatic, barber shop types. I like old school Paco Raban pour homme, Burberry London, Grey Flannel, and Zihr Ikon. Ikon is my go to. Its inexpensive, inoffensive and masculine. Most times I get complimented by an AMP girl for how I smell I am wearing Ikon. Less is more, apply 60 to 90 minutes before appointment. You only want it strong enough someone close inside your personal space can smell it. I think its a solid stable choice. Not too cheap but not expensive. Punches higher than its price class.

Hygiene and manners matter if you are trying to get the most bang for your buck, IMHO.

[SamSmiles01]

Not to throw cold water on anything, as I hear your frustration! It does take a LOT of time to sift through things, just be patient with the process. I found it gets easier as I trained my eye to spot fakes.

As far as AMPs go, here is some general advice on how to avoid stumbles:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...-Good-Customer

I see about 35% of guys get rejected at the git-go because they are ignorant and start with the wrong approach. So for starters, avoid those faux paus.

As far as menu expansions go, there are several things.

1) Not every girl or Spa offers "extras" and of those who do, it is up to the individual girl as to how far she will go. Some girls will only do everything covered, some might do BBBJ and a rare few BBFS. But that is up to the girl and can be highly dependent on her mood, her perception of you, her prejudices, etc.

2) Can't emphasize this enough, but showing up clean (freshly showered), nice cologne, clean finger nails, nice clothes and good shoes all set a good first impression. I think this is key.

3) Be polite in your approach! Many guys are pushy or ignorant, and again, one is trying to get the girl to do something for you. Now is time to try some charm, but be smooth, girls have seen every approach. Basically you have a about 5-minutes to make an impression and win over the girl.

That's some great advice on the AMP's. Everything mentioned there was spot on. The only thing I would add is that once you think you've found a place. Google it. If they only take cash that's a real good indicator that extras are available. I'd call and make an appointment to.

[Shampoo55]

Hey fellow mongers,

I've been digging through fakes and multiple train wrecks galore. Never done the AMP thing before. Any ladies who allow CIP in the KoP area? AMP or visiting them. Hit my inbox if you've got a reliable recommendation.

Not to throw cold water on anything, as I hear your frustration! It does take a LOT of time to sift through things, just be patient with the process. I found it gets easier as I trained my eye to spot fakes.

As far as AMPs go, here is some general advice on how to avoid stumbles:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...-Good-Customer

I see about 35% of guys get rejected at the git-go because they are ignorant and start with the wrong approach. So for starters, avoid those faux paus.

As far as menu expansions go, there are several things.

1) Not every girl or Spa offers "extras" and of those who do, it is up to the individual girl as to how far she will go. Some girls will only do everything covered, some might do BBBJ and a rare few BBFS. But that is up to the girl and can be highly dependent on her mood, her perception of you, her prejudices, etc.

2) Can't emphasize this enough, but showing up clean (freshly showered), nice cologne, clean finger nails, nice clothes and good shoes all set a good first impression. I think this is key.

3) Be polite in your approach! Many guys are pushy or ignorant, and again, one is trying to get the girl to do something for you. Now is time to try some charm, but be smooth, girls have seen every approach. Basically you have a about 5-minutes to make an impression and win over the girl.

4) What I found works best with a new girl / situation is to comply & take massage. While she is working on your back I usually reach over and caress, lightly, her side, leg, butt or whatever I can reach. That gives a good indication. She will either move your hand, object, move away or allow the roaming. If you do it in a sensuous way it is more likely to be accepted and appreciated. Girls complain about grabby, pushy, insistent dudes.

I once went to a new place. Girl was at my head, I reached both arms up and lightly stroked the back of the legs. Got no bad reaction so worked my way up to her butt. Again, watching for a bad reaction, got none, so started stroking and kneading her butt. That did it! Negotiations began, clothes were soon off and fun was had!

5) Money talks and BS walks. Don't be fooled girls are in this for one reason, MONEY! Find out what the rates are and be willing to negotiate a bit, but pay a fair price. Oh and don't go for the hhr option, makes you look cheap. Expect to pay extra for extra services.

6) Don't be afraid to fish in many ponds. I see too many guys, doing the same thing, failing and then getting frustrated. I see VERY few willing to ASK, learn and change their approach. What is the definition of insanity? Many knowledgeable gents here can help with the "how to". Who cares if an anon s / and on a hooker website looks newbie? Get an education through others, or the school of hard knocks. Just saying.

Hope this helps?

[GhostScore]

Hey fellow mongers,

I've been digging through fakes and multiple train wrecks galore. Never done the AMP thing before. Any ladies who allow CIP in the KoP area? AMP or visiting them. Hit my inbox if you've got a reliable recommendation.