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[Resipsaloquito]

[QUOTE=Wingman Todd; 1087659]Very sad news to report. I was texted this morning that Lilly died of an overdose. No further details at this time. Will advise. Too bad, as she was a sweet girl. Troubled past growing up. Guess just couldn't handle it.

WM.

This story is interesting for a couple of reasons.

1) The article is vague about this aspect, but I am curious about how the bust went down because the arrest occurred at a different address / location from where services were offered. If this had been an undercover LE operation, wouldn't she have been taken down at the time the aledged soliciting actually happened? .

I checked the e-mail page found by gooling the name in the media and found an ******* page. On it is a person claiming to be her fiance and stating she's not dead, only wishing to start over. If she shows for court Thursday, she's probably not deceased.

[Wingman Todd]

Very sad news to report. I was texted this morning that Lilly died of an overdose. No further details at this time. Will advise. Too bad, as she was a sweet girl. Troubled past growing up. Guess just couldn't handle it.

WM.

[QUOTE=Ceenote; 1087145]This story is interesting for a couple of reasons.

1) The article is vague about this aspect, but I am curious about how the bust went down because the arrest occurred at a different address / location from where services were offered. If this had been an undercover LE operation, wouldn't she have been taken down at the time the aledged soliciting actually happened? .

[WarlockKy]

This story is interesting for a couple of reasons.

1) The article is vague about this aspect, but I am curious about how the bust went down because the arrest occurred at a different address / location from where services were offered. If this had been an undercover LE operation, wouldn't she have been taken down at the time the aledged soliciting actually happened?

Per the story she was working for Naughty Bodies so perhaps the poor bastard was mislead and was surprised that in addition to the 150 to 200 to get her to his door that it was going to be double that to get any services beyond the massage and dance. Maybe the pissed off client contacted LE in retaliation to the upsell.

2) The SP that was busted is a poster / advertiser in this forum who claimed that she was no longer affiliated with NB's and that she was a true indy now. If you do not recognize the mug with the article use your internet skills and you will find the more widely known photos that you will recognize.

3) As I recall "Lilly" had some positive feedback here, but now I will be compelled to search for it to see who left it. Curious whether it was from well established members or some Johnny come lately who may have just been working as a shill.

http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/region_...exual-services

CINCINNATI. A 19-year-old woman was arrested Wednesday afternoon after Cincinnati police say she offered to prostitute herself after performing a non-therapeutic massage and strip show.

Mally Combs, of Goshen, told police she was working for Naughty Bodies, a local adult entertainment company, according to court records.

Combs is charged with failing to have a license for a sexually-oriented business, failure to have a massage license and soliciting.

Police allege that around 3:45 pm at a home on Cappel Street in West Price Hill, Combs offered services ranging from $100 to $200 in price.

It's unclear if the arrest came as a result of an undercover operation or if police were tipped off about the alleged activity.

Vice units with Cincinnati police made the arrest at an address on West 8th Street about 20 minutes after Combs' alleged actions.

Combs was processed and released from the Hamilton County Justice Center a few hours after her arrest and is due in court Thursday afternoon.

Based on a belief that the reviews were legit is that she went back to NB to make more money.

Once CL shut down there were just too many ads on BP to get noticed.

[WarlockKy]

Old news! Check other posts here from last week !

Is that the services portion of all of the reviews has been whacked.

Only thing left is description.

[Ceenote]

This story is interesting for a couple of reasons.

1) The article is vague about this aspect, but I am curious about how the bust went down because the arrest occurred at a different address / location from where services were offered. If this had been an undercover LE operation, wouldn't she have been taken down at the time the aledged soliciting actually happened?

Per the story she was working for Naughty Bodies so perhaps the poor bastard was mislead and was surprised that in addition to the 150 to 200 to get her to his door that it was going to be double that to get any services beyond the massage and dance. Maybe the pissed off client contacted LE in retaliation to the upsell.

2) The SP that was busted is a poster / advertiser in this forum who claimed that she was no longer affiliated with NB's and that she was a true indy now. If you do not recognize the mug with the article use your internet skills and you will find the more widely known photos that you will recognize.

3) As I recall "Lilly" had some positive feedback here, but now I will be compelled to search for it to see who left it. Curious whether it was from well established members or some Johnny come lately who may have just been working as a shill.

http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/region_...exual-services

CINCINNATI. A 19-year-old woman was arrested Wednesday afternoon after Cincinnati police say she offered to prostitute herself after performing a non-therapeutic massage and strip show.

Mally Combs, of Goshen, told police she was working for Naughty Bodies, a local adult entertainment company, according to court records.

Combs is charged with failing to have a license for a sexually-oriented business, failure to have a massage license and soliciting.

Police allege that around 3:45 pm at a home on Cappel Street in West Price Hill, Combs offered services ranging from $100 to $200 in price.

It's unclear if the arrest came as a result of an undercover operation or if police were tipped off about the alleged activity.

Vice units with Cincinnati police made the arrest at an address on West 8th Street about 20 minutes after Combs' alleged actions.

Combs was processed and released from the Hamilton County Justice Center a few hours after her arrest and is due in court Thursday afternoon.

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http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/region_...exual-services

[Wingman Todd]

Old news! Check other posts here from last week !

Anyone else read about this?

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/loca...#ixzz13rD4rSkZ

[SimonPieMan]

Anyone else read about this?

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/loca...#ixzz13rD4rSkZ

[Vilnius]

I think it's safe to say that all of us are heterosexual here. Some of us may even fall into the category of what our politically correct media now calls "homophobia. "

I am rather sick of hearing about gay marriage, gays-in-the-military, etc. Over the last 20 years myself. But I have to give gays credit for how they have worked together as a group to change the laws.

As recently as the 1960s, gays were hounded by the police just as hobbyists and providers are now hounded by police. Gay bars were raided, and the authorities used "name-and-shame" tactics similar to those now used against heterosexual hobbyists and providers.

Why did things change? Simple: Gay men engaged the system to fight for their rights as consenting adults. Remember all those ACT UP rallies? Remember Stonewall?

The hobbyist community-with few exceptions-does not seem interested in any sort of political action. About 2 years ago Proposition K was on the ballot in San Francisco. This did not pass, but it was a good start. The national media took up the issue; and for a while, there was the beginning of a real public debate about legalization-or at least decriminalization.

It is hard to outsmart LE in the long run. Long-term, the best solution is to work toward changing the laws. As discussed in previous threads, none of us is here to corrupt minors or overthrow society. All we want is the freedom to engage in consensual activity with other consenting adults. Aside from our hobbying, most of us are probably law-abiding citizens. (For example, I am your typical harmless "nerd. " I don't even drink alcohol)

Non-hobbyists would benefit as well if we were given our rights: LE resources that are currently arrayed against non-violent, consensual "crime" could be allocated against true criminals who really do threaten society.

A few years ago when the strip bars were under attack in Ohio, there was a group of local strippers who called themselves "Dancers for Democracy. " They engaged the media and did garner some sympathy. A few providers-like Tracy Quan and Amanda Brooks-have spoken out on a national level. But these efforts, so far, have been ad hoc and sporadic.

I don't claim to have a concise twelve-point strategy, and I realize that some guys here may object to being compared to gay men. But I think that the gay movement's progress does provide a working model for how laws can be changed if people will only stand up for their rights.

All true, and it's a semi-valid comparison, but the difference here is that gays stood (and stand) up for their rights because it was literally who they are. They couldn't be accepted by society and be in a relationship that fulfilled them. Part of the reason they caught / still catch so much flak is that people erroneously believe that they were simply choosing to be gay, and then taking some kind of moral stance against that choice. That perception of gays is our reality. We choose to be hobbyists. That doesn't make the "moral" stance against our hobby any more valid, but it is a choice. (Sure you could argue that we're wired in such a way that we could never be happy with one woman, but that's a whole 'nother page of point / counterpoint. I'll leave it at "maybe")

Most hobbyists are not looking to stand up and be recognized. . Some are hiding from their wives or girlfriends, and I'd wager that most are hiding it from non-hobbyist friends and their employers. It's just not the sort of thing that goes over well. Yes, it's a victimless crime that we waste tax dollars fighting, and you could approach it from that direction in terms of activism, but I doubt that most of us would stand up. Hell, I've got no one to hide it from except for my employer (and my parents, I suppose) but I would have to think long and hard before I signed my real name to anything public that advocated legalization.

Long story short, if there's going to be a movement, it'd have to come from the providers, and they're arguably in a more precarious position due to the aforementioned legal complications, though they have more to gain. I love the idea, but I can't visualize it coming together. Great insight regardless, though.

[WarlockKy]

This is an excellent post and why everyone should take a look at it and understand the real lengths that LE will get to just to bust a Non-Violent crime, among contenting adults. Even when money is exchanged.

Plus add to this that LE is after her Black Book/Computer too, because that has her clients list on it and she might be willing to roll over on her clients to try to stay out of jail.

Especially if she has kids & a family she is taking care of.

She ain't going to worry about protecting you, and your kids & family.

Oh Well!

Do a search for Operation Flea Collar and you'll find how far Tampa/Hillsborough went in trying to put a muzzle on the large canine board.

The interesting thing out of "busts" like these is that they make splashy headlines, but quickly drop to page 30 news when the charges start being dropped and cases dismissed.

[Todd Cincy]

I think it's safe to say that all of us are heterosexual here. Some of us may even fall into the category of what our politically correct media now calls "homophobia."

I am rather sick of hearing about gay marriage, gays-in-the-military, etc. over the last 20 years myself. But I have to give gays credit for how they have worked together as a group to change the laws.

As recently as the 1960s, gays were hounded by the police just as hobbyists and providers are now hounded by police. Gay bars were raided, and the authorities used "name-and-shame" tactics similar to those now used against heterosexual hobbyists and providers.

Why did things change? Simple: Gay men engaged the system to fight for their rights as consenting adults. Remember all those ACT UP rallies? Remember Stonewall?

The hobbyist community---with few exceptions---does not seem interested in any sort of political action. About 2 years ago Proposition K was on the ballot in San Francisco. This did not pass, but it was a good start. The national media took up the issue; and for a while, there was the beginning of a real public debate about legalization--or at least decriminalization.

It is hard to outsmart LE in the long run. Long-term, the best solution is to work toward changing the laws. As discussed in previous threads, none of us is here to corrupt minors or overthrow society. All we want is the freedom to engage in consensual activity with other consenting adults. Aside from our hobbying, most of us are probably law-abiding citizens. (For example, I am your typical harmless "nerd." I don't even drink alcohol.)

Non-hobbyists would benefit as well if we were given our rights: LE resources that are currently arrayed against non-violent, consensual "crime" could be allocated against true criminals who really do threaten society.

A few years ago when the strip bars were under attack in Ohio, there was a group of local strippers who called themselves "Dancers for Democracy." They engaged the media and did garner some sympathy. A few providers---like Tracy Quan and Amanda Brooks---have spoken out on a national level. But these efforts, so far, have been ad hoc and sporadic.

I don't claim to have a concise twelve-point strategy, and I realize that some guys here may object to being compared to gay men. But I think that the gay movement's progress does provide a working model for how laws can be changed if people will only stand up for their rights.

This is an excellent post and why everyone should take a look at it and understand the real lengths that LE will get to just to bust a Non-Violent crime, among contenting adults. Even when money is exchanged.

Plus add to this that LE is after her Black Book/Computer too, because that has her clients list on it and she might be willing to roll over on her clients to try to stay out of jail.

[Mr Boombastic]

This is an excellent post and why everyone should take a look at it and understand the real lengths that LE will get to just to bust a Non-Violent crime, among contenting adults. Even when money is exchanged.

Plus add to this that LE is after her Black Book/Computer too, because that has her clients list on it and she might be willing to roll over on her clients to try to stay out of jail.

Especially if she has kids & a family she is taking care of.

She ain't going to worry about protecting you, and your kids & family.

Oh Well!

And also were wondering if it's a good idea to have monger parties ...

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/6772742.html

Houston police infiltrate escort site, make prostitution busts
Copyright 2009 Houston Chronicle

Houston police made a round of prostitution-related arrests Tuesday night stemming from a raid on a holiday party involving high-priced call girls at a midtown club last week.

“This is a party that was organized on a Web site that caters to mainly prostitution,” said Lt. C. Vasquez with HPD's vice division.

Police said they managed to infiltrate the escort site, which actively tries to weed out authorities, and learn about the party.

“It took about four months to get in there, from beginning to end,” Vasquez said.

Houston police charged 12 people related to the party in the 2600 block of San Jacinto, both accused prostitutes and their customers.

Vice officers said information from the site has helped it make other prostitution arrests at hotels across the area, and more are on the way.

“There are men who met prostitutes online in the city of Houston who have warrants for their arrest for prostitution, and they don't know it yet,” Vasquez said.

Chronicle news partner KHOU-TV provided this report.

[WarlockKy]

Seems the USASG system automatically converts the site into all ****. But there's nothing for admin to fear, since the site really is shut down. In case you were wondering, it's an acronym for the old Alt.Sex.Prostitution.Discussion news group, which became a web site as a .net. It was based in Houston, but had active threads from all over, including Ohio. It sounds like from other web discussions that the organizer was an escort who passed away, so that may be why the site no longer operates, though this bust probably didn't help.

As best I can tell from the news reports, one or more cops infiltrated the group by posting and then becoming one of the people invited to private parties some of the members had organized.

I think you'll find a somewhat similar story out of Columbus, where the former Sullivant Guy on this board organized a "raffle" of a provider, who I seem to recall was a state worker, with a similar party that got busted.

All of it is a warning about what can happen when you go from commenting on the trade, or even being a client, to going over to the sell side in any way. Also a warning that no matter how smart we all think we are, once in a while the cops get smarter.

When BustyGirl passed away her family decided to shutdown the site rather than deal with the questions that were sure to be raised during probate.

It was relaunched not long ago as e r a p s.net and if you were a previous member your old password and user id can be used to login.

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