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Massage Parlor Cameras
The search warrants in the Florida Orchids of Asia case have been unsealed. As has been reported already, LE placed hidden cameras while using a hoax threat to gain access to the business. It turns out that there were already cameras in the business and they were also seized.
"While the women stood outside in the Orchids of Asia Day Spa parking lot, three cops discreetly hid the cameras inside the lobby and four treatment rooms so they could watch — in real time — the male clients paying for sexual favors, according to the search warrants. As they waited, two more women showed up. One of the women, Hua Zhang, told police she lived across the street and "could see what was occurring inside the spa on her cellphone," which let cops know she had her own cameras set up. Police seized the cameras and equipment when they were inside, according to records, since there would be probable cause to believe it captured evidence of a crime. ".
https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news...fd8960e3a.html
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Robert Kelley Interview
He was unconvincing while his accusers were credible.
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Originally Posted by BallAllDay
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About your facts. Pretty sure NC was frying people at s pretty good rate until the AMA contested the constitutionality if Physicuans being present during the lights dimming to kill the bastards. State law says a PhD Doc has to be present. Now none will risk being in there so it's all on hold til further notice. Maybe it will get straightened out and we can have a toga party of sorts and fry 3 or 4 a day until death row is an open alley way. But I'm with you hippie. Sons of Bitches every one of them' Personally I always thought seeing a guilotine in action would be cool. You know. Like the one Pugsly made on Adams Family. LOL.
Personally I like the firing squad.
The rights of the accused and guilty has more meaning then the rights of victims and that's just wrong.
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Agree
But hopeful that prison justice goes into effect sooner rather than later. Not sure how a baby killer will be viewed on the inside.
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Originally Posted by XHippie
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Sure he's going to die, die of fucking old age. There is no death penalty in my home State of NC. ( or lets say as quick as it should be) Texas or Florida now there's 2 states you don't want to fuckup in and kill a Cop or a State Trooper, Badda Bing you ARE going to fry muther fucker. As long as Barney and Andy rules apply in NC, the tax payers will pay for him to be fed, medical check ups to keep him healthy so he can work out in the gym daily to get good and tired so he can sleep good at night in a warm bed for 20 OR MORE years. Death Penality my ass.
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Originally Posted by XHippie
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Sure he's going to die, die of fucking old age. There is no death penalty in my home State of NC. ( or lets say as quick as it should be) Texas or Florida now there's 2 states you don't want to fuckup in and kill a Cop or a State Trooper, Badda Bing you ARE going to fry muther fucker. As long as Barney and Andy rules apply in NC, the tax payers will pay for him to be fed, medical check ups to keep him healthy so he can work out in the gym daily to get good and tired so he can sleep good at night in a warm bed for 20 OR MORE years. Death Penality my ass.
About your facts. Pretty sure NC was frying people at s pretty good rate until the AMA contested the constitutionality if Physicuans being present during the lights dimming to kill the bastards. State law says a PhD Doc has to be present. Now none will risk being in there so it's all on hold til further notice. Maybe it will get straightened out and we can have a toga party of sorts and fry 3 or 4 a day until death row is an open alley way. But I'm with you hippie. Sons of Bitches every one of them' Personally I always thought seeing a guilotine in action would be cool. You know. Like the one Pugsly made on Adams Family. LOL.
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Sure he's going to die, die of fucking old age. There is no death penalty in my home State of NC. ( or let’s say as quick as it should be) Texas or Florida now there's 2 states you don't want to fuckup in and kill a Cop or a State Trooper, Badda Bing you ARE going to fry muther fucker. As long as Barney and Andy rules apply in NC, the tax payers will pay for him to be fed, medical check ups to keep him healthy so he can work out in the gym daily to get good and tired so he can sleep good at night in a warm bed for 20 OR MORE years. Death Penality my ass.
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Kraft advice.
"Yes, I, a 77 year old widower paid for a non-intercourse encounter, a hand massage via 2 consenting adults where both parties parted ways happily as planned. If any of these girls were being held against their will, forced to work, there was no indication of that, and if your allegations of trafficking are correct, it just proves the only issue with this and similar encounters for the hundreds of other defendants in your fine city is being caused by the continued non-legalization of consensual arrangments that are safe and legal in other countries such as Europe that do not experience any kind of "human trafficking".
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Kraft AMP
New article I came across has some interesting points that they might not be able to win a case against Kraft. He certainly can afford to fight the case and it looks like he is ramping up to do so, based of other things I have read.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/28/how-pa...titution-case/
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The best line is "only LE opinion is published" no word from the ones being accused. Interesting article indeed coming from a female. ANYTHING that has a demand there will be a supplier AMP's aren't going away. Everyone knows it's a hell of a lot safer and cleaner than dealing with SW and Backpage / Escort Ho's.
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Originally Posted by XHippie
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The obvious question guys are asking from coast to cost is. Will the place I go to have cameras? Anything's possible but my hunch is here we have a extremely high profile customer that I think someone in the area recognized coming and going in this place and possibly other places and they notified LE hey want to catch a big fish, watch this guy and this place. Or there was someone within his circle that ratted him out. Why put cameras in one particular store in Jupiter why not Orlando or LA or NY. There's a lot of shouting about trafficking but the real story is a Gotcha Mr. High profile person. If one of our basketball coaches was spotted coming and going from one of the AMPs around here the cops would find somehow to get cameras in the place this would be a big time bust. It takes time and money to run these types of stings and popping the small fish like us only hits a bump in the road. It's possible the land lord could let LE in at night to rig up cameras or call in a bomb scare to empty the store Good Grief. But they will have a VERY difficult time getting the owners cooperation that owner would've packed and gone. I think Mr Billionaire either drew too much attention to himself or someone got some payback.
Nope, he just walked into it. He actually went back the next day after he got the benefit of being warned to stay away the day before. All that being said it's just a strange situation, my guess is there are going to plenty of lawsuits and who knows? This guy might foot the bill for everyone who wants to go after LE and the county.
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Ratted Out.
Originally Posted by RichardParker
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Interesting. That's the first place I've read that. Definitely unusual, but effective in this case. They'll have to come up with something different next time though. In some prior cases, they've just gotten a property manager (if it was a strip mall situation) to let them in. In other cases, the cameras weren't LE cameras at all, but cameras they found during a search and the business itself was keeping videos. Many AMPs, at a minimum, have a regular security camera system recording their lobby. Any raid on the business is going to seize whatever recordings are present. And with hard drives storing weeks, if not months, of footage, that gives lots of faces to match up with times and credit cards.
The obvious question guys are asking from coast to cost is. Will the place I go to have cameras? Anything's possible but my hunch is here we have a extremely high profile customer that I think someone in the area recognized coming and going in this place and possibly other places and they notified LE hey want to catch a big fish, watch this guy and this place. Or there was someone within his circle that ratted him out. Why put cameras in one particular store in Jupiter why not Orlando or LA or NY. There's a lot of shouting about trafficking but the real story is a Gotcha Mr. High profile person. If one of our basketball coaches was spotted coming and going from one of the AMPs around here the cops would find somehow to get cameras in the place this would be a big time bust. It takes time and money to run these types of stings and popping the small fish like us only hits a bump in the road. It's possible the land lord could let LE in at night to rig up cameras or call in a bomb scare to empty the store Good Grief. But they will have a VERY difficult time getting the owners cooperation that owner would've packed and gone. I think Mr Billionaire either drew too much attention to himself or someone got some payback.
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Interesting. That's the first place I've read that. Definitely unusual, but effective in this case. They'll have to come up with something different next time though. In some prior cases, they've just gotten a property manager (if it was a strip mall situation) to let them in. In other cases, the cameras weren't LE cameras at all, but cameras they found during a search and the business itself was keeping videos. Many AMPs, at a minimum, have a regular security camera system recording their lobby. Any raid on the business is going to seize whatever recordings are present. And with hard drives storing weeks, if not months, of footage, that gives lots of faces to match up with times and credit cards.
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