Massage Parlor Reports

[Purple45]

Yeh what he said!

I'll add this it took me a little while to find it out but having a chance to get to know a few girls I was able to get in their heads about how they really feel about us Americans or Latinos or whoever. First of all I'm not betraying them this is not a top secret and this does not apply to the slutty ones that can suck the chrome off a bumper and snap your disc in your back receiving it doggie style, these girls are what my grandpa called jack legs they can do it all. This is for the majority of the girls that we see. They truly want to give a good massage for our health, they consider this a real job not anything to do with sex they do not consider a HJ a sexual act for them altough the receiver thinks of it as sexual. They consider it part of the massage and all the touching that we do to them is not that sexual for them. Anybody's dick soft yet? LOL. It's ok guys we still enjoy ourselves but it's not that enjoyable sexually for them we are just another customer with a hard dick, it's like them preparing a sandwich for lunch that we have just ordered. Hey baby you want medium hard bla bla bla wham bam have a nice day NEXT!! And this crew of girls that we see, 95% of the time will not give FS or a BJ because of their culture no shit it's true this is their words not mine. BJ & FS are strictly reserved for their husband at home or husband to be. That only leaves a small percentage that will do the wild shit. This is the culture and the way the majority of these girls operate so when you are asking for the BJ or FS and she says the boss says no Ill get in trouble it's a little more deeper than that. Granted if you have developed a bond with a certain provider YOU may get something but not the whole posse because these girls do adhere to their culture and these percentages change depending on what city we are talking about or whether it is Chinese, American or Korean. But for arguments sake let's stick with AMP in RTP. I'm sure we all know the BJ & FS givers around here are a minority and yes there are a few. Oh I forgot back to the topic of Tips, this is what causes the confusion to ask what the hell is the tip in this place to get some action in fact what action does this place offer?

AMP or BP girls each has their challenges and risk choose your pleasure. P45 I'm pretty sure I have gone through all 4 stages A, B, C, D and so far I'm disease & therapy free (for now) I just hope I still have a 401 k when my junk won't function anymore.

Yes, most Chinese AMP providers do not consider the HJ a sex act and the ones that do switch to a non-erotic AMP. That is why many who do the HJ do not like the OTC or UTC that many customers want because we feel that the HJ is sex act. There is a provider I see now and she is a virgin; we talk and she is waiting till she has a husband. When you know that about a girl there is instant respect and you almost feel bad wanting a HJ. I asked her and she knows it helps me to relax so she doesn't mind but I keep my hands on the table.

Over the years I've gone from customer (D) to customer (B) and (A). Once you see that look in a person's eyes that says there lonely and they want a better life where they wouldn't have to do this work anymore; it works on the conscious after you have seen the look a few times. Women are not wired like men and while you think they are enjoying themselves some will tell you differently if you take the time to honestly listen. I will leave this with you the reader. I know a FS provider who is attractive, nice body and has skills that other girls wish they had. She told me privately that she is not worthy of love and that no man could love a woman like her. Being a man I think logically and could rationalize that she was mistaken but women think with their emotions and with their heart and women understand love a lot more then men do. I feel sorry for her even though it was her choice in doing FS work for the money and causing her to feel that way about herself. Sometimes the cost is greater then what both the customer and the provider realize at the time. We all accept risk but often the future is shortchanged for the present because the living in the now is more important at the time.

[Bonneville]

I checked out this place Based on a review I read or a PM I can't remember It was so long ago I'm thinking the summer of 2014 Memory isn't what it use to be. I don't remember the girls name but she was a big girl compared to most of the petite girls and needed a little dental work had a gap in her front teeth other than that she looked ok, massage probably a 5 spoke fairly good english heavy negotiator, full menu was available which I sampled not that great, Based on the decor and service I decided it was too far for me to drive to repeat for what was offered. Like I said it's been awhile not sure if she's still there or what else or who else is on the menu. All I have on this place.

I have had somewhat different experiences there but in the last few visits I have not seen the same girls there twice. Turnover it would appear is quite high.

[XHippie]

I was in a pinch didn't feel like driving an hour so I visited this location. Nothing good to say but will report to help others. The massage was very rough rushed to the point where it burned from her rubbing her hands so fast. Everything was very mechanical and rushed, I asked if it was busy today she said it was not busy at all. When they open the door they were both watching TV on iPads. Looks: 4. Massage:3 The ending was nothing special either, she took directions fairly well but still never achieved anything good I was barely able to finish and I really needed something done. This was the type to negotiate right after starting the happy ending, she was very aggressive at negotiation. 6 tip and hand and got the girls out. Nothing more on the menu. . at least for me. I will not repeat even in a pinch.

I checked out this place Based on a review I read or a PM I can't remember It was so long ago I'm thinking the summer of 2014 Memory isn't what it use to be. I don't remember the girls name but she was a big girl compared to most of the petite girls and needed a little dental work had a gap in her front teeth other than that she looked ok, massage probably a 5 spoke fairly good english heavy negotiator, full menu was available which I sampled not that great, Based on the decor and service I decided it was too far for me to drive to repeat for what was offered. Like I said it's been awhile not sure if she's still there or what else or who else is on the menu. All I have on this place.

[Editit]

I was in a pinch didn't feel like driving an hour so I visited this location. Nothing good to say but will report to help others. The massage was very rough rushed to the point where it burned from her rubbing her hands so fast. Everything was very mechanical and rushed, I asked if it was busy today she said it was not busy at all. When they open the door they were both watching TV on iPads. Looks: 4. Massage:3 The ending was nothing special either, she took directions fairly well but still never achieved anything good I was barely able to finish and I really needed something done. This was the type to negotiate right after starting the happy ending, she was very aggressive at negotiation. 6 tip and hand and got the girls out. Nothing more on the menu. . at least for me. I will not repeat even in a pinch.

[Starliner63]

I swore off AMPs for a couple of months, since finding my UTR girl. Well, she wasn't feeling well on the night we were supposed to meet so I found myself at #35. I know that any kind of HE is pretty difficult here, but the massage is pretty damned good. I went in and Michelle gave me a big hug, wondering where I have been. She introduced me to a new girl, I can't remember her name, but she looked young and very cute. I will be going back to see her. Michelle gave me one of the best massages I have ever had and left me feeling like jello. The last few times I visited there, I was getting massaged by another girl. I always left happy. PM for details.

[MD Bellamy]

My first visit to this establishment. Seems clean enough. Met by an older lady. No TS and straight into a "soft" massage. She remained fully clothed and I was sufficiently mellow not a try roaming hands. She brushed past the central area with increasing frequency. I'll merely say that, on the flip, I was fully satisfied. We finished off with a further "fingertip" massage. Very nice session. JimJim may need touching his ranking on this one!

[Dsrtp1]

I didn't feel like searching for the list but I had a good session with Cici at Studio. 90 minute for. 90. Got all the kinks out along with two shots. Safe and good experience besides the tip request routine which I just shrug off and tell them we'll see about a tip depending on the service. I did give her. 50 tip and she was very happy and appreciative.

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[XHippie]

Where do you start? So many viewpoints. The girl in an AMP leaves her home country and wants a better living. Tourist visa or work visa and off to the USA she goes with little English skills. Destination San Fransisco or New York where Chinese communities speak just Chinese but everything is expensive and minimum wage doesn't cut it. The girls who choose AMP work were previously trained in China where therapeutic massage is not associated with sex workers in China. The girls are surprised that in American AMPs the lines between massage and sex are blurred because sex work is illegal and if you don't have the proper state certifications then you can't legally do massage. This is a dilemma for many Asian girls who must decide between working in a non-erotic AMP where business is slow or an AMP that offers happy endings to try and earn some money for a descent living. Some choose the FS AMP, if there conscious doesn't bother them, because sex is less work; while giving a quality massage taxes the fingers, wrists and shoulders and is a lot more tiring then FS work.

Now, just like there are different types of girls working in an AMP there are different types of customers who visit them. Customer (A) wants a solid massage from a licensed provider so he goes to Massage Envy or non-erotic AMP where the national average for a massage is $60, no sexual services provided and most tip 10% - 15% so that puts the total at $70 for a one hour therapeutic massage. Customer (B) also wants a solid massage but wants a HJ to relieve sexual tension and he can't get that second option at Massage Envy so he goes to a erotic AMP with nice girls who will do both. The AMP house fee for one hour is $60 - $70 and the tip for massage and HJ is pretty much standard at $40. If the girl allows some OTC or UTC or looses some clothes during the HJ then then the tip amount is expected to be higher. Now, customer (B) is happy with this arrangement because he doesn't want sex at an AMP, SW or escort and doesn't care about the cost analysis when comparing both. Customer (C) is one who doesn't care about the massage and chooses the 30 minute AMP option just for the sexual tease on the backside and the flip to get his HJ sexual release but is one who doesn't pursue girls on BP or CL for sex. Granted every customer (A) or (B) or (C) might start liking a certain girl and then the mental fantasies want to be lived in real life so some Massage Envy girls will meet you outside work for sex and some AMP girls will do BJ, DATY or FS in the store if the right relationship has been developed. Finally customer (D) whose life revolves around his dick and will pursue girls wherever they may be found for the sole purpose of sex. The cheaper the sex the better because he just can't get enough and an AMP doesn't play into their equation because the massage means nothing, the HJ doesn't satisfy and the amount for both is absurd because the delicate, moist, pink flower can't be penetrated.

Conclusion: tip what you want but there are certain expectations from the girl you see at the type of AMP you visit (non-erotic, erotic AMP or FS AMP). Asians are known for their quiet spirit, slender frames, good hygiene and the care they take in making there customer satisfied in all accepts just like a GFE escort. A true GFE will cost way more than a BP escort or FS AMP provider but you will get a GFE experience with some FS AMP providers at a much lower rate.

Yeh what he said!

I'll add this it took me a little while to find it out but having a chance to get to know a few girls I was able to get in their heads about how they really feel about us Americans or Latinos or whoever. First of all I'm not betraying them this is not a top secret and this does not apply to the slutty ones that can suck the chrome off a bumper and snap your disc in your back receiving it doggie style, these girls are what my grandpa called jack legs they can do it all. This is for the majority of the girls that we see. They truly want to give a good massage for our health, they consider this a real job not anything to do with sex they do not consider a HJ a sexual act for them altough the receiver thinks of it as sexual. They consider it part of the massage and all the touching that we do to them is not that sexual for them. Anybody's dick soft yet? LOL. It's ok guys we still enjoy ourselves but it's not that enjoyable sexually for them we are just another customer with a hard dick, it's like them preparing a sandwich for lunch that we have just ordered. Hey baby you want medium hard bla bla bla wham bam have a nice day NEXT!! And this crew of girls that we see, 95% of the time will not give FS or a BJ because of their culture no shit it's true this is their words not mine. BJ & FS are strictly reserved for their husband at home or husband to be. That only leaves a small percentage that will do the wild shit. This is the culture and the way the majority of these girls operate so when you are asking for the BJ or FS and she says the boss says no Ill get in trouble it's a little more deeper than that. Granted if you have developed a bond with a certain provider YOU may get something but not the whole posse because these girls do adhere to their culture and these percentages change depending on what city we are talking about or whether it is Chinese, American or Korean. But for arguments sake let's stick with AMP in RTP. I'm sure we all know the BJ & FS givers around here are a minority and yes there are a few. Oh I forgot back to the topic of Tips, this is what causes the confusion to ask what the hell is the tip in this place to get some action in fact what action does this place offer?

AMP or BP girls each has their challenges and risk choose your pleasure. P45 I'm pretty sure I have gone through all 4 stages A, B, C, D and so far I'm disease & therapy free (for now) I just hope I still have a 401 k when my junk won't function anymore.

[MHL63]

Anyone know of a place I can get some nice ones wrapped around me? I saw a report back in April or May, but can't find it. Pm is fine as always. Thanks for any info.

Check your PMs.

[Ronnor]

"A" I go to a massage therapist when my muscles are stiff. "D" I go to a sex therapist when my dick is stiff. "D" Repeat, because my dick stiffens more often than my muscles do. LOL.

[Purple45]

I've been wondering about this for a while. I've not been a fan of the AMPs because of the fact that you apparently have to negotiate at the flip. This would be a real mood killer for me. I like to put my money down, then the rest of the session have a fantasy that they are into me. Is there thrill in trying to get additional services from young (or not so young) ladies for a cheap (or reasonable) price? Nothing about that sounds like a good time. Am I missing something?

TBH I've never gotten more than a HE at an AMP. I'm also of the mind that 40 is way too much to pay for a HJ since 60 will get you a BJ on BP. That said I usually don't mention the size of the tip and just let the worker do her thing. I've found that the ones who say "How much you give me?" Or want to see the money and then say "Not enough" are not much fun unless you give a certain amount that I refuse to for a BJ. The amount of time that many stay and the fact that I go so infrequently make it a bad long term investment.

I used to follow the advice and give 40 but have since gone down to 30 on the rare occasion I go to an AMP. Since the girl at the last one was so wide eyed and appreciative for 30 I think I might try 20 next time. Before anyone calls me cheap, think of the amount of jobs that don't pay anywhere near 20/ hr and let's be honest it's just a HJ so $10 is probably an appropriate tip. Hell if this were Korea, China, Thailand. And you weren't foreign then you wouldn't even tip it would be a part of the service.

The tip debate has been on the board many times Not sure who set the $40 bench mark for the HJ but the girls around here have gotten use to it. For me when a HJ is the only thing on the menu it comes down to this I'm tipping 40% for the massage 40% for the play and 20% for the HJ. To me the play is very important. I agree with you $40 for just a HJ that included a shitty massage and no play will not bring me back to that provider. $20 or $40 an hour whatever the tip is seems like a lot IF she is doing a HJ every hour of the 12 hours she works every day which is unlikely. It's a give and take on both sides she must make the hour pleasant and erotic to get a good tip, and we should tip according to what we are receiving. Paying 60 or 70 entry fee is expensive and the tip better include a good time. I have many visits I'm ashamed of that I thought to my self you just wasted hard earned money on a rub and tug trap which in reality was a newbie provider new to the business. Restaurant or AMP it's all about the product and service, some are better than others in providing and tipping.

Where do you start? So many viewpoints. The girl in an AMP leaves her home country and wants a better living. Tourist visa or work visa and off to the USA she goes with little English skills. Destination San Fransisco or New York where Chinese communities speak just Chinese but everything is expensive and minimum wage doesn't cut it. The girls who choose AMP work were previously trained in China where therapeutic massage is not associated with sex workers in China. The girls are surprised that in American AMPs the lines between massage and sex are blurred because sex work is illegal and if you don't have the proper state certifications then you can't legally do massage. This is a dilemma for many Asian girls who must decide between working in a non-erotic AMP where business is slow or an AMP that offers happy endings to try and earn some money for a descent living. Some choose the FS AMP, if there conscious doesn't bother them, because sex is less work; while giving a quality massage taxes the fingers, wrists and shoulders and is a lot more tiring then FS work.

Now, just like there are different types of girls working in an AMP there are different types of customers who visit them. Customer (A) wants a solid massage from a licensed provider so he goes to Massage Envy or non-erotic AMP where the national average for a massage is $60, no sexual services provided and most tip 10% - 15% so that puts the total at $70 for a one hour therapeutic massage. Customer (B) also wants a solid massage but wants a HJ to relieve sexual tension and he can't get that second option at Massage Envy so he goes to a erotic AMP with nice girls who will do both. The AMP house fee for one hour is $60 - $70 and the tip for massage and HJ is pretty much standard at $40. If the girl allows some OTC or UTC or looses some clothes during the HJ then then the tip amount is expected to be higher. Now, customer (B) is happy with this arrangement because he doesn't want sex at an AMP, SW or escort and doesn't care about the cost analysis when comparing both. Customer (C) is one who doesn't care about the massage and chooses the 30 minute AMP option just for the sexual tease on the backside and the flip to get his HJ sexual release but is one who doesn't pursue girls on BP or CL for sex. Granted every customer (A) or (B) or (C) might start liking a certain girl and then the mental fantasies want to be lived in real life so some Massage Envy girls will meet you outside work for sex and some AMP girls will do BJ, DATY or FS in the store if the right relationship has been developed. Finally customer (D) whose life revolves around his dick and will pursue girls wherever they may be found for the sole purpose of sex. The cheaper the sex the better because he just can't get enough and an AMP doesn't play into their equation because the massage means nothing, the HJ doesn't satisfy and the amount for both is absurd because the delicate, moist, pink flower can't be penetrated.

Conclusion: tip what you want but there are certain expectations from the girl you see at the type of AMP you visit (non-erotic, erotic AMP or FS AMP). Asians are known for their quiet spirit, slender frames, good hygiene and the care they take in making there customer satisfied in all accepts just like a GFE escort. A true GFE will cost way more than a BP escort or FS AMP provider but you will get a GFE experience with some FS AMP providers at a much lower rate.

[XHippie]

TBH I've never gotten more than a HE at an AMP. I'm also of the mind that 40 is way too much to pay for a HJ since 60 will get you a BJ on BP. That said I usually don't mention the size of the tip and just let the worker do her thing. I've found that the ones who say "How much you give me?" Or want to see the money and then say "Not enough" are not much fun unless you give a certain amount that I refuse to for a BJ. The amount of time that many stay and the fact that I go so infrequently make it a bad long term investment.

I used to follow the advice and give 40 but have since gone down to 30 on the rare occasion I go to an AMP. Since the girl at the last one was so wide eyed and appreciative for 30 I think I might try 20 next time. Before anyone calls me cheap, think of the amount of jobs that don't pay anywhere near 20/ hr and let's be honest it's just a HJ so $10 is probably an appropriate tip. Hell if this were Korea, China, Thailand. And you weren't foreign then you wouldn't even tip it would be a part of the service.

The tip debate has been on the board many times Not sure who set the $40 bench mark for the HJ but the girls around here have gotten use to it. For me when a HJ is the only thing on the menu it comes down to this I'm tipping 40% for the massage 40% for the play and 20% for the HJ. To me the play is very important. I agree with you $40 for just a HJ that included a shitty massage and no play will not bring me back to that provider. $20 or $40 an hour whatever the tip is seems like a lot IF she is doing a HJ every hour of the 12 hours she works every day which is unlikely. It's a give and take on both sides she must make the hour pleasant and erotic to get a good tip, and we should tip according to what we are receiving. Paying 60 or 70 entry fee is expensive and the tip better include a good time. I have many visits I'm ashamed of that I thought to my self you just wasted hard earned money on a rub and tug trap which in reality was a newbie provider new to the business. Restaurant or AMP it's all about the product and service, some are better than others in providing and tipping.

[XHippie]

TBH I've never gotten more than a HE at an AMP. I'm also of the mind that 40 is way too much to pay for a HJ since 60 will get you a BJ on BP. That said I usually don't mention the size of the tip and just let the worker do her thing. I've found that the ones who say "How much you give me?" Or want to see the money and then say "Not enough" are not much fun unless you give a certain amount that I refuse to for a BJ. The amount of time that many stay and the fact that I go so infrequently make it a bad long term investment.

I used to follow the advice and give 40 but have since gone down to 30 on the rare occasion I go to an AMP. Since the girl at the last one was so wide eyed and appreciative for 30 I think I might try 20 next time. Before anyone calls me cheap, think of the amount of jobs that don't pay anywhere near 20/ hr and let's be honest it's just a HJ so $10 is probably an appropriate tip. Hell if this were Korea, China, Thailand. And you weren't foreign then you wouldn't even tip it would be a part of the service.

The tip debate has been on the board many times Not sure who set the $40 bench mark for the HJ but the girls around here have gotten use to it. For me when a HJ is the only thing on the menu it comes down to this I'm tipping 40% for the massage 40% for the play and 20% for the HJ. To me the play is very important. I agree with you $40 for just a HJ that included a shitty massage and no play will not bring me back to that provider. $20 or $40 an hour whatever the tip is seems like a lot IF she is doing a HJ every hour of the 12 hours she works every day which is unlikely. It's a give and take on both sides she must make the hour pleasant and erotic to get a good tip, and we should tip according to what we are receiving. Paying 60 or 70 entry fee is expensive and the tip better include a good time. I have many visits I'm ashamed of that I thought to my self you just wasted hard earned money on a rub and tug trap which in reality was a newbie provider new to the business. Restaurant or AMP it's all about the product and service, some are better than others in providing and tipping.

[XHippie]

TBH I've never gotten more than a HE at an AMP. I'm also of the mind that 40 is way too much to pay for a HJ since 60 will get you a BJ on BP. That said I usually don't mention the size of the tip and just let the worker do her thing. I've found that the ones who say "How much you give me?" Or want to see the money and then say "Not enough" are not much fun unless you give a certain amount that I refuse to for a BJ. The amount of time that many stay and the fact that I go so infrequently make it a bad long term investment.

I used to follow the advice and give 40 but have since gone down to 30 on the rare occasion I go to an AMP. Since the girl at the last one was so wide eyed and appreciative for 30 I think I might try 20 next time. Before anyone calls me cheap, think of the amount of jobs that don't pay anywhere near 20/ hr and let's be honest it's just a HJ so $10 is probably an appropriate tip. Hell if this were Korea, China, Thailand. And you weren't foreign then you wouldn't even tip it would be a part of the service.

The tip debate has been on the board many times Not sure who set the $40 bench mark for the HJ but the girls around here have gotten use to it. For me when a HJ is the only thing on the menu it comes down to this I'm tipping 40% for the massage 40% for the play and 20% for the HJ. To me the play is very important. I agree with you $40 for just a HJ that included a shitty massage and no play will not bring me back to that provider. $20 or $40 an hour whatever the tip is seems like a lot IF she is doing a HJ every hour of the 12 hours she works every day which is unlikely. It's a give and take on both sides she must make the hour pleasant and erotic to get a good tip, and we should tip according to what we are receiving. Paying 60 or 70 entry fee is expensive and the tip better include a good time. I have many visits I'm ashamed of that I thought to my self you just wasted hard earned money on a rub and tug trap which in reality was a newbie provider new to the business. Restaurant or AMP it's all about the product and service, some are better than others in providing and tipping.

[Joe Looking]

I've been wondering about this for a while. I've not been a fan of the AMPs because of the fact that you apparently have to negotiate at the flip. This would be a real mood killer for me. I like to put my money down, then the rest of the session have a fantasy that they are into me. Is there thrill in trying to get additional services from young (or not so young) ladies for a cheap (or reasonable) price? Nothing about that sounds like a good time. Am I missing something?

TBH I've never gotten more than a HE at an AMP. I'm also of the mind that 40 is way too much to pay for a HJ since 60 will get you a BJ on BP. That said I usually don't mention the size of the tip and just let the worker do her thing. I've found that the ones who say "How much you give me?" Or want to see the money and then say "Not enough" are not much fun unless you give a certain amount that I refuse to for a BJ. The amount of time that many stay and the fact that I go so infrequently make it a bad long term investment.

I used to follow the advice and give 40 but have since gone down to 30 on the rare occasion I go to an AMP. Since the girl at the last one was so wide eyed and appreciative for 30 I think I might try 20 next time. Before anyone calls me cheap, think of the amount of jobs that don't pay anywhere near 20/ hr and let's be honest it's just a HJ so $10 is probably an appropriate tip. Hell if this were Korea, China, Thailand. And you weren't foreign then you wouldn't even tip it would be a part of the service.