Massage Parlor Reports

[Skillet]

Lists are getting long and it takes a while to update. So here are the key things that will go in the next full update.

# 23 new numbers for both incall 919-522-0497 and outcall 347-925-2703 upgrade to P.

# 31 new number 919-637-0822 upgrade to P.

# 33 upgrade to P.

# 40 New P Rose Health Spa 3326 Durham Chapel Hill Road Durham 919-641-5906.

I had 31 and 33 marked as closed for some reason. They aren't on the shortlist. Last number 40 is Green Apple so Rose Health is 41?

[Jimjim77]

Lists are getting long and it takes a while to update. So here are the key things that will go in the next full update.

# 23 new numbers for both incall 919-522-0497 and outcall 347-925-2703 upgrade to P.

# 31 new number 919-637-0822 upgrade to P.

# 33 upgrade to P.

# 40 New P Rose Health Spa 3326 Durham Chapel Hill Road Durham 919-641-5906.

[Jimjim77]

I was curios also, that's one of the reasons that I TOFTT. I recognized the older woman in the back, looked like an owner and I am pretty sure I saw her somewhere else in Raleigh or Cary, so I don't think they are not new to the area and may have some other locations. They may be trying something new.

Beat me to it. I saw this late last week and was going to toftt but I can't play on the weekends. Was going to visit early this week since it is very close for a change rather than Raleigh / Cary. Was curios why a CL ad only but no BP ads? Ah well, if it was a P, I might have a decent time.

[Es421]

New place in Durham.

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/thp/5007544179.html

Low key location but unless you know that part of Durham you will need a Navigation system or a smart phone.

Called Rose Health Spa on the side of the door.

Full walls for some rooms.

At least a P. Worth a try if you are close.

Beat me to it. I saw this late last week and was going to toftt but I can't play on the weekends. Was going to visit early this week since it is very close for a change rather than Raleigh / Cary. Was curios why a CL ad only but no BP ads? Ah well, if it was a P, I might have a decent time.

[Jimjim77]

New place in Durham.

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/thp/5007544179.html

Low key location but unless you know that part of Durham you will need a Navigation system or a smart phone.

Called Rose Health Spa on the side of the door.

Full walls for some rooms.

At least a P. Worth a try if you are close.

[XHippie]

Actually it is very easy to shut them down. Just call the state office that licenses massage therapists. Tell them name and location. They will investigate immediately and they will shut them down. Seen it happen to my best AMP girl in Charlotte. They even went one step further and checked her immigration and she got kicked into thatess. If some guy is pissed at poor service he can be a real jerk and mess up those poor girls lives. Surprised more providers don't rat on each other but then that might just put a redlight on all AMPs and they get pulled in.

Exactly, but look how many of these jack shacks there are in Any state or any city, the license board, states office or LE could throw a dart at a board blind folded and hit one that doesn't have a license they don't have to be tipped off by anyone. Usually a pissed off tenant next door is what usually causes the ball rolling to get somebody shut down. Shut them down? It ain't happening, Buffy & Biff from Mayberry making biscuits at Bojangles? ain't happening. Like I said for everyone that gets popped 5 appear. Lucky for us!

[AsianBlue]

Actually it is very easy to shut them down. Just call the state office that licenses massage therapists. Tell them name and location. They will investigate immediately and they will shut them down. Seen it happen to my best AMP girl in Charlotte. They even went one step further and checked her immigration and she got kicked into thatess. If some guy is pissed at poor service he can be a real jerk and mess up those poor girls lives. Surprised more providers don't rat on each other but then that might just put a redlight on all AMPs and they get pulled in.

It's no secret and really just common sense that if you look at every state and every city in these states on USASG or RubMap there are God knows how many Parlors, They out number Starbucks. How many of the places have license? And if they do have license did they go through the proper channels to get them. I'm not saying anything here that is not known by LE already. These folks know how to use a copier machine and sell the license to each other, or forge the license with fake names and license numbers hell it's how I became a gynecologist LOL just kidding ladies if some peek at these post behind your mans back. Most of these license can be purchased in NY. This is not just me spouting off bull shit I've heard it from the ladies. Again this is not a top secret that OMG I can't believe he's saying that. I would easily say hardly any of these places have legitimate license and there ain't shit the massage board or the police will or can do anything about it because it has gotten too big and intergrated into our economy just like all the folks across the border that work in our fast food resturaunts and do the manual labor that our generation has said oh hell no not for that kind of pay. It's simple if you want to shut them out of our economy to go back where they came from you go after the company that is hiring them. If you can't catch them giving a hand job go after the land lord at these plazas renting them the space without proof of a ligitimate license. You go after the American business man making a buck off of this with the IRS crawling up his ass you have just solved any immigration issue without having to pass any new law. Now how does this all relate to us getting a HE? Easy, these places aren't going anywhere. Oh you will get a sting here or there but for every RR or Wake Forest store that closes 5 new ones open. Massage Envy that boast all our staff has legitimate license or the legit indepentent therapist, they can't complain that the AMP's are taking their customers WHY? Because we are going to AMP's to get our dick's touched. The AMP and bodyrub providers and escort gals know the system and risk. But the AMP business model is a well oiled machine that covers all its base's that has contacts from coast to coast from getting equipment to documents, contractor to build the store to fresh ladies. I would never classify it as organized crime but it's business model is of the same flavor. I personally don't see anything wrong with it because I think the whole massage business should be legal so we can get some tax revenue out of it and build some mass transit around this country. We have phones, lap tops, iPads, Iwatches that keep us connected 24/7 at the speed of a bullet and my ass is still stuck in traffic on I40 every fucking day. Ahhhhhh. I need a cold beer.

[Joe Looking]

I get what you're saying, and please excuse my language, but my anger is not directed towards you but at the overall market:

WTF?! If there are more AMPs popping up, shouldn't that drive the prices (including tips) down and the services up? It's what a rational market would do. Of course, I also get the perverse incentives going on here: most of these girls are only here temporarily, so if they know they are only going to get a fixed volume per day, might as well milk the customers while they have any. Fucked up place we live in.

The prices in the hobby have never been rational. More so than supply and demand, prices in the hobby are determined by how much some fool will pay and how greedy / patient the provider is. For example, I once met a provider who charged $750/ hour in the Raleigh area. When she was really hard up she would got for $150/ hour. The reason she charged 500 was that she had a day job so was fine only getting 1-2 calls per month. When times were hard she had to drop the price to something more people would pay.

More AMPs mean more competition, especially if younger girls come through. That means that the chick who used to do make 240 a day in tips may only make 80 now. This leaves three choices: 1) Leave for another location or line of work 2) Do things guys are willing to pay more for or that will keep them coming back 3) Demand more money so that each guy pays what 2 guys would have before.

From my limited experience most AMP workers and chicks on backpage for that matter are very ill-educated and would have trouble finding work that paid as much. Although some here have received full service at AMPs I don't get the impression that most of the workers are looking to do that.

My advice is to say firm at 30-40. I've yet to have one turn it down when I take it out and say it's all I have. Even the one chick who was clearly not happy just said bring more next time.

[MustYield]

Went to ATSU in Cary recently, it was a early Saturday morning. Pretty cute girl in maybe early 30's came out and took me back immediately. She was very happy to see me it seemed. I got ready and she came in and got started. Very nice massage with a lot of teasing and otc touching. She had on some high pants with a belt. Not real easy to get utc. On the flip she went for the HE no negotiations. She worked really hard. Very nice and will definitely go back. She whispered in my ear to call and ask for her next time and she would wear something better. I'm ready to go back when I get back to Cary.

[XHippie]

Yes, the strategy of pushing for larger tips is self-defeating, especially in the face of higher competition. However, I doubt if any of these girls ever took an economics class.

Speaking of classes.

During my weird experience at Eden yesterday, I had time to observe the license certificates on display in the waiting area. Oddly (or maybe not so oddly) none of the names on the certificates sounded even vaguely Asian. I always wondered how women who could barely speak English managed to pass the license exam for massage therapists. I guess that's the answer. They don't.

It's no secret and really just common sense that if you look at every state and every city in these states on USASG or RubMap there are God knows how many Parlors, They out number Starbucks. How many of the places have license? And if they do have license did they go through the proper channels to get them. I'm not saying anything here that is not known by LE already. These folks know how to use a copier machine and sell the license to each other, or forge the license with fake names and license numbers hell it's how I became a gynecologist LOL just kidding ladies if some peek at these post behind your mans back. Most of these license can be purchased in NY. This is not just me spouting off bull shit I've heard it from the ladies. Again this is not a top secret that OMG I can't believe he's saying that. I would easily say hardly any of these places have legitimate license and there ain't shit the massage board or the police will or can do anything about it because it has gotten too big and intergrated into our economy just like all the folks across the border that work in our fast food resturaunts and do the manual labor that our generation has said oh hell no not for that kind of pay. It's simple if you want to shut them out of our economy to go back where they came from you go after the company that is hiring them. If you can't catch them giving a hand job go after the land lord at these plazas renting them the space without proof of a ligitimate license. You go after the American business man making a buck off of this with the IRS crawling up his ass you have just solved any immigration issue without having to pass any new law. Now how does this all relate to us getting a HE? Easy, these places aren't going anywhere. Oh you will get a sting here or there but for every RR or Wake Forest store that closes 5 new ones open. Massage Envy that boast all our staff has legitimate license or the legit indepentent therapist, they can't complain that the AMP's are taking their customers WHY? Because we are going to AMP's to get our dick's touched. The AMP and bodyrub providers and escort gals know the system and risk. But the AMP business model is a well oiled machine that covers all its base's that has contacts from coast to coast from getting equipment to documents, contractor to build the store to fresh ladies. I would never classify it as organized crime but it's business model is of the same flavor. I personally don't see anything wrong with it because I think the whole massage business should be legal so we can get some tax revenue out of it and build some mass transit around this country. We have phones, lap tops, iPads, Iwatches that keep us connected 24/7 at the speed of a bullet and my ass is still stuck in traffic on I40 every fucking day. Ahhhhhh. I need a cold beer.

[Stang613]

New staff in Holiday yesterday, good talent, demeanor, and body, okay face. Nice to keep things fresh.

[NcPantyHose2]

Yes, the strategy of pushing for larger tips is self-defeating, especially in the face of higher competition. However, I doubt if any of these girls ever took an economics class.

Speaking of classes.

During my weird experience at Eden yesterday, I had time to observe the license certificates on display in the waiting area. Oddly (or maybe not so oddly) none of the names on the certificates sounded even vaguely Asian. I always wondered how women who could barely speak English managed to pass the license exam for massage therapists. I guess that's the answer. They don't.

Fake licenses? Sounds illegal. If they aren't careful that state massage inspector will come in and force them to give a free BJ or FS or he will shut them down. Where is my "official" looking badge? LOL.

[SailorSam]

I get what you're saying, and please excuse my language, but my anger is not directed towards you but at the overall market:

WTF?! If there are more AMPs popping up, shouldn't that drive the prices (including tips) down and the services up? It's what a rational market would do. Of course, I also get the perverse incentives going on here: most of these girls are only here temporarily, so if they know they are only going to get a fixed volume per day, might as well milk the customers while they have any. Fucked up place we live in.

Yes, the strategy of pushing for larger tips is self-defeating, especially in the face of higher competition. However, I doubt if any of these girls ever took an economics class.

Speaking of classes.

During my weird experience at Eden yesterday, I had time to observe the license certificates on display in the waiting area. Oddly (or maybe not so oddly) none of the names on the certificates sounded even vaguely Asian. I always wondered how women who could barely speak English managed to pass the license exam for massage therapists. I guess that's the answer. They don't.

[RubaDubdub01]

So I have been vising a couple of area AMPs regularly for over a year now, enough so the ladies there know me. I always have a nice happy massage with these ladies and have always tipped. 4.

The last couple of visits these same ladies have pushed hard for a. 5 or. 6 tip for the same service I have been getting for well over a year. One of my regular ladies brought me to attention.

Then left to go get the cc receipt for me to complete before finishing, really pissed me off so I said the hell with her, I'll go somewhere else. Once I started checking the ads I realized how many new.

Places there are now and then it hit me. A year ago there were only a hand full of AMPs, now there are well into the 20's and as new places open, these ladies are losing their customers.

And their tips and that is why they are now pushing for higher tips upfront. To make up for the drop in customers due to competition.

Just my thought.

What the hell?? It looks like a 3rd grader typed my post. Sorry about that.

[Capt314]

I get what you're saying, and please excuse my language, but my anger is not directed towards you but at the overall market:

WTF?! If there are more AMPs popping up, shouldn't that drive the prices (including tips) down and the services up? It's what a rational market would do. Of course, I also get the perverse incentives going on here: most of these girls are only here temporarily, so if they know they are only going to get a fixed volume per day, might as well milk the customers while they have any. Fucked up place we live in.

You need to take into consideration the limited pool of customers. In a given area, in reality, there is a small number of people who will visit an AMP. Unlike a restaurant that can raise and lower prices to convince people to come eat, and AMP has to first find that person who will consider coming in. A lot of times, that's based on time and availability. Wife / gf out of town, etc. If you read these posts, nobody says "I went to that AMP because it was the cheapest". It's not the main consideration.

So if the population of customers is small, the more AMP's there are, the less traffic per AMP. If the girls are here for a short period of time, sure, they are going to try to maximize their revenue.

As the owners of the AMPs are trying to make money, I would expect them to get better girls because that is what the drives the customer. Not price. Time will tell.