The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[FarFarAway]

In researching how to structure an arrangement I found this google doc comparing regions and pricing:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...9UvLsg/pubhtml

Reddit has many subtopics with ALL king of info:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/

Really interesting. $300 average per meeting in NC (this can be multiple hours).

Your link to the spreadsheet is getting reposted all over this site. Can you tell us who prepared it, how people get their info onto it, etc. ?

[SeekingRdu]

The women on that subreddit are insanely entitled.

You can also drop the "ly entitled" from that statement and it would still be true.

[MisterMister46]

In researching how to structure an arrangement I found this google doc comparing regions and pricing:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...9UvLsg/pubhtml

Reddit has many subtopics with ALL king of info:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/

Really interesting. $300 average per meeting in NC (this can be multiple hours).

The women on that subreddit are insanely entitled.

[SaintMan3500]

Wow- Some hotties on this list. I may have to join this app now. I met a girl on CC and she told me she looks for arrangements on that site now. So what is the best advice for an arrangement? Price? And really what should I not do? Any help appreciated.

LM.

Speaking solely from my experience.

1. I've done anywhere from $100-$400 Per Meet. With me mostly doing $200-$300 with decent looking women. Only done $400 with people I really liked or who I find extremely attractive.

2. Always Negotiate.

3. Never give anyone any money before meeting. Don't buy into any "need $ for gas" or "need $$$ asap" nonsense.

4. I personally recommend to do public meet up's, first. In a coffee shop, mall, park, etc. Many women on the site are in their early-mid 20's and get very nervous about meeting men. Meeting in public tends to ease them.

If you try to meet at a hotel, you run a bigger risk of them ghosting on the day of and losing money from paying for the hotel. Ghosting is sometimes unavoidable, but atleast if you meet in public you can see the vibe and there is that level of familiarity and lesser chance. Some are fine with meeting a stranger in a room for the first time, and others aren't.

5. I generally do A. Public Meet Up. B. Do the arrangement itself on a diff day that works best. (where intimacy, etc happens). Can do at a Hotel, Your Spot, or Their Spot.

6. If someone wants to do another public meet up or get dinner on a different day, even after we've already met: It has never worked out. As it becomes clearer and clearer that they just want something platonic and there are plenty of women who will do what you ask. That won't have so many barriers.

7. In the arrangement itself, I generally pay at the end of our meet up. If someone gives you an extremely difficult time about that, you could give a portion at the start, and the later portion at the end for a compromise. If someone has questionable morals, they can take the money and leave earlier.

8. Some people feel differently, but I always do Paypal, Cashapp, or Venmo. Incase anyone tries scamming or making excuses to leave early. This is because they allow you to file a dispute to get your money back. (venmo+paypal). As well as linking your credit card to file a chargeback, if that doesn't work. If you're not comfortable doing this, then I would highly suggest you give cash at the end or just some at the start, and the rest at the end of the session.

9. Some women want to be "paid" or given some $$ during the Meet and Greet. It can go either way in that.

A. Giving money during the M&G gives them a bigger incentive to meet you, and can lead to them wanting to be in an arrangement.

B. Giving Money during the M&G can lead to them ghosting after. Which means a waste of time & money!

I've had success with not doing paid M&G, and doing Paid M&G. Though I don't really do Paid M&G unless I find the person exceptionally attractive, or decent looking+ exceptionally good at talking with. YMMV.

10. Seeking is temporary. Don't be surprised if they ghost or end the arrangement if they find a serious relationship, someone who gives them more $$$ for the arrangement, or job that they make very good money at.

11. When it comes to public meeting and/or the arrangement itself : Confirm before the day of, and on the day itself. If you want to confirm before you leave your place, you may do that too.

I use this type of method to decrease my chances of being stood up and it's helped me avoid wasting 15-30+ min driving to a place.

[LuccaMac]

In researching how to structure an arrangement I found this google doc comparing regions and pricing:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...9UvLsg/pubhtml

Reddit has many subtopics with ALL king of info:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/

Really interesting. $300 average per meeting in NC (this can be multiple hours).

[LuccaMac]

Has anyone here had a conversation, met, and / or been in an arrangement with any of these women below, from Seeking Arrangements? If so, what were your experiences like?

1. MusicGal

Looks cute. Has a decent bio.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...7-80553806c3ba

2. Daria

Seems to have joined this month, so I wouldn't be surprised if no one has met her. Has a long and descriptive bio, which tells me she's real and legit.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...0-260e5fcad2ae

3. BestoftheBest

Looks cute, but typical bad bio. She does say "must be willing to meet".

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...5-9de567c28931

4. Aria23

Her profile says she's been on SA since March of 2024, but I'm 99% positive she has had previous profiles in the past. Says "do not ask for my number, socials or to meet right away". Ok then.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...6-303d0a674309

5. HippieGoddess

Apparently been a member since 2021. Says she is a free spirit, and knows how to "put a man in his place". Um, ok.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...a-952c4e84319e

6. BohoGoddess

Says she is a Free Spirited Open Minded individual. Interesting. Doesn't seem bad looking.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...3-842e50e16381

7. Astrid

In the Durham area, and looks cute. Has decent pics. Not a bad profile and says she is willing to confirm that she's real.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...f-8af4083496ef

8. BlondieBabe21

Been here since 2023, though I have a feeling she's been on the site under different profiles. Pics look ok. Bio seems generic. Tried looking on search engine here to see if anyone has talked about her, but found nothing.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...c-384261c6a4c0

9. AlexisDeLeon

This one is very forward. Outright says she's a bag chaser, and not looking for anything serious. But says don't text her unless you're willing to pay. Lolwat. No doubt this would turn off people, but has anyone here even entertained a convo or arrangement with her?

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...e-28925089f4e7

10. Lana

Not even sure if this is even a real profile. Late 20's, and horrible bio. But seems to have been here since 2018 and has a blue check mark.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...3-378b7f1db407

Wow- Some hotties on this list. I may have to join this app now. I met a girl on CC and she told me she looks for arrangements on that site now. So what is the best advice for an arrangement? Price? And really what should I not do? Any help appreciated.

LM.

[BrianPeter]

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...3-8fb0ddc045dd

This one was in Raleigh, now in Charlotte. Anyone had an experience?

[SaintMan3500]

Has anyone here had a conversation, met, and / or been in an arrangement with any of these women below, from Seeking Arrangements? If so, what were your experiences like?

1. MusicGal

Looks cute. Has a decent bio.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...7-80553806c3ba

2. Daria

Seems to have joined this month, so I wouldn't be surprised if no one has met her. Has a long and descriptive bio, which tells me she's real and legit.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...0-260e5fcad2ae

3. BestoftheBest

Looks cute, but typical bad bio. She does say "must be willing to meet".

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...5-9de567c28931

4. Aria23

Her profile says she's been on SA since March of 2024, but I'm 99% positive she has had previous profiles in the past. Says "do not ask for my number, socials or to meet right away". Ok then.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...6-303d0a674309

5. HippieGoddess

Apparently been a member since 2021. Says she is a free spirit, and knows how to "put a man in his place". Um, ok.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...a-952c4e84319e

6. BohoGoddess

Says she is a Free Spirited Open Minded individual. Interesting. Doesn't seem bad looking.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...3-842e50e16381

7. Astrid

In the Durham area, and looks cute. Has decent pics. Not a bad profile and says she is willing to confirm that she's real.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...f-8af4083496ef

8. BlondieBabe21

Been here since 2023, though I have a feeling she's been on the site under different profiles. Pics look ok. Bio seems generic. Tried looking on search engine here to see if anyone has talked about her, but found nothing.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...c-384261c6a4c0

9. AlexisDeLeon

This one is very forward. Outright says she's a bag chaser, and not looking for anything serious. But says don't text her unless you're willing to pay. Lolwat. No doubt this would turn off people, but has anyone here even entertained a convo or arrangement with her?

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...e-28925089f4e7

10. Lana

Not even sure if this is even a real profile. Late 20's, and horrible bio. But seems to have been here since 2018 and has a blue check mark.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...3-378b7f1db407

[BHEsq]

Also, anyone seen Layla from Greenville lately? I know she has been discussed as being loopy and all over the place, but damn she has a body.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...4-cb8ee0734d97

I've seen Layla before. I went to her apartment in Greenville, fairly nice area. She's definitely the girl in the pictures and she's definitely loopy. She has an Adderall addiction and probably partakes in some other recreational drugs. She's not much for hanging out though I didn't find her to be rude or pushy. The sex was as boring as it can be. She hates BJs and doesn't really care for anything else either. Being hot with a tight kitty is about the only thing positive I can say.

Also, we were scheduled to meet once before in Raleigh. She told me she was on the way but never made it. She was communicating the whole time claiming she ran in to traffic, etc. but after 3 hours, I called it off. I honestly have no idea what that was about.

[Jm1312]

Post a pic that looks like you or maybe with glasses on. It's worked for me. I refuse to put a clear face pic on any social media sites.

I do the same plus when you find someone favorite them they will see you. All the sites are getting over run with scammers.

[Darrell01]

I'm getting the message too but still getting views and favoriting so apparently it's not true. SA's scam to try to make everyone post a pic so they can know more about you. I'm not doing it. If it means no more SA then so be it. That site is more and more a scam. They allow scammers to proliferate but keep slapping the paying SDs for rudeness, identification verification, ppm mention, etc.

Post a pic that looks like you or maybe with glasses on. It's worked for me. I refuse to put a clear face pic on any social media sites.

[Dr SugarD]

I switched to no pictures on the advice of some of the UTR guys around here (years ago). Now I'm seeing this new message and SA is hounding me to "complete your profile. " Does rolling with no pic and only paying sub when you find someone you like no longer a solid strategy?

Thanks.

I'm getting the message too but still getting views and favoriting so apparently it's not true. SA's scam to try to make everyone post a pic so they can know more about you. I'm not doing it. If it means no more SA then so be it. That site is more and more a scam. They allow scammers to proliferate but keep slapping the paying SDs for rudeness, identification verification, ppm mention, etc.

[WelladJustedJ]

I switched to no pictures on the advice of some of the UTR guys around here (years ago). Now I'm seeing this new message and SA is hounding me to "complete your profile. " Does rolling with no pic and only paying sub when you find someone you like no longer a solid strategy?

Thanks.

[Dr SugarD]

Dancing, touching, HJ, "and just intercourse". Some guys might be good with that and there's nothing wrong there.

Some gals think that being in the same room with them is all the foreplay you should need. LOL.

I'll give Layla credit, she was upfront about no kissing and only a brief BJ. I've been with a few dead fish that just layed there. I can do without till something better comes along.

[LikesGirls]

I hate when they pull crap like that even when their profile says "mutually beneficial". What's mutual? Giving hundreds or thousands of dollars just to be in their presence?

Dancing, touching, HJ, "and just intercourse". Some guys might be good with that and there's nothing wrong there.