Streetwalker Reports

[Queen City Guy]

Pro tip, take it from me! A lot of motels with ground level rooms have windows in the bathrooms and these girls aren't too proud to hop out of them and go see the dopeman with your loot. They don't care about leaving you there, it's not like there's anything valuable in there! Always try to leave the money somewhere visible and guide her away from it. Try to put out a cool vibe and always always always stay calm. I like to set the loot out in the open and do our thing. If she's hip to the game she should go along with it and grab it afterwards but we know that isn't always the case, so if she does pick it up beforehand just be aware that there really isn't much you can do if she decides to "run out real quick to grab a condom or make a phone call". Suck it up and count your losses. Don't be that guy who gets tough, it's not worth it. These women are people too and they're in much worse shape than you. Besides, that's a good way to get yourself jammed up in one way or another.

Mongering 101 page 1, NEVER give her the money before services rendered and you eliminate about 90% of the chances of getting ripped off like you mention. That is a common theme on every page of this forum. Even for very seasoned mongers with gals they've seen multiple times, you hand them the money then the deal is over, they've gotten what they wanted whether you did or not. I also never hand the money to them, always leave it on a table or dresser. Besides, that's a little more dignified for them. I don't put it out until I'm done though, if they ask, I tell 'them I have the funds.

The in or out of the car thing is where I divert from the rest of the mongering nation. I try to be very discrete but I'll talk with someone a little before I let them in. Had some experiences where I was shaken down by a cracked out hoe that wouldn't get out until I paid her off. I want someone sane and lucid in my vehicle. AND if you ever watched Live PD or Cops, you get a strung out gal in your vehicle and get pulled and she ditches some dope in your car guess whose going to get in trouble. Whether you talk through the window or let them in, if LE is watching you then you are going to get pulled anyway. If its a sting you're going to get pulled anyway.

[Queen City Guy]

Pro tip, take it from me! A lot of motels with ground level rooms have windows in the bathrooms and these girls aren't too proud to hop out of them and go see the dopeman with your loot. They don't care about leaving you there, it's not like there's anything valuable in there! Always try to leave the money somewhere visible and guide her away from it. Try to put out a cool vibe and always always always stay calm. I like to set the loot out in the open and do our thing. If she's hip to the game she should go along with it and grab it afterwards but we know that isn't always the case, so if she does pick it up beforehand just be aware that there really isn't much you can do if she decides to "run out real quick to grab a condom or make a phone call". Suck it up and count your losses. Don't be that guy who gets tough, it's not worth it. These women are people too and they're in much worse shape than you. Besides, that's a good way to get yourself jammed up in one way or another.

Mongering 101 page 1, NEVER give her the money before services rendered and you eliminate about 90% of the chances of getting ripped off like you mention. That is a common theme on every page of this forum. Even for very seasoned mongers with gals they've seen multiple times, you hand them the money then the deal is over, they've gotten what they wanted whether you did or not. I also never hand the money to them, always leave it on a table or dresser. Besides, that's a little more dignified for them. I don't put it out until I'm done though, if they ask, I tell 'them I have the funds.

The in or out of the car thing is where I divert from the rest of the mongering nation. I try to be very discrete but I'll talk with someone a little before I let them in. Had some experiences where I was shaken down by a cracked out hoe that wouldn't get out until I paid her off. I want someone sane and lucid in my vehicle. AND if you ever watched Live PD or Cops, you get a strung out gal in your vehicle and get pulled and she ditches some dope in your car guess whose going to get in trouble. Whether you talk through the window or let them in, if LE is watching you then you are going to get pulled anyway. If its a sting you're going to get pulled anyway.

[DeathByStereo]

I don't have any experience with SW, my car doesn't have AC (all to the monger!) So would appreciate how yall would have approached the following scenario. The other day at a hotel, I saw a FINE AA lady leaning up against the door to her room. Low cut tank, no bra, tons of cleavage, and wearing sweatpants. Looked like a handler leaning against a car nearby. When I walked past her she didn't look at me, while getting in the car, the handler left and then she started looking at me! I made it obvious that I was checking her out, not hard to do, driving slow and staring, LOL. She returned my stare with a slight smile and we watched each other as I drove away.

Thoughts? Was she working or just enjoying the attention. Boyfriend or handler? Is there something discreet I could have said to her to let her know I was willing to play? Its no worries if you don't feel comfortable giving away your best lines LOL!

My advice would be to get her attention in a subtle way, smile, eye contact etc, and have her approach you. Some of these girls are a little out of it and don't pick up on the signals, but any seasoned SW will recognize a potential date and approach you to talk if you act the right way. If she's a little slow on the uptake a little nod or wave over should do it. Make sure you position your vehicle so it's easily approachable but not obvious or blocking traffic or the parking lot, and have your windows down. Once she's made her way over to you, I usually ask if they would like a ride somewhere or just say "hop in". Simple as that. If they walked to your car, they're working and know the deal. I never discuss business before they get in my vehicle and we've started to drive away. I would be very wary about entering a room with a girl who works the street unless I know her reasonably well or if it's my room. Period.

If you do meet a woman and simply must go to her room, here's a few tips. Some of them have already been mentioned but a little repetition never hurt anyone. Make sure you touch her and have her touch you in areas police would not allow, preferably as soon as she gets in the vehicle / room. Don't be shy about this! Grab a titties, seriously. They're used to it and will appreciate knowing your not the police. Make sure you smile and say something though, be cool not creepy. I know, I know but trust me a little personality goes a long way. Check bathroom, closet, etc. Check to see if there's a window in the bathroom, if so do not let her take your money in the bathroom with her to "freshen up". Pro tip, take it from me! A lot of motels with ground level rooms have windows in the bathrooms and these girls aren't too proud to hop out of them and go see the dopeman with your loot. They don't care about leaving you there, it's not like there's anything valuable in there! Always try to leave the money somewhere visible and guide her away from it. Try to put out a cool vibe and always always always stay calm. I like to set the loot out in the open and do our thing. If she's hip to the game she should go along with it and grab it afterwards but we know that isn't always the case, so if she does pick it up beforehand just be aware that there really isn't much you can do if she decides to "run out real quick to grab a condom or make a phone call". Suck it up and count your losses. Don't be that guy who gets tough, it's not worth it. These women are people too and they're in much worse shape than you. Besides, that's a good way to get yourself jammed up in one way or another.

My experience is if you present yourself as a safe non threatening person, while at the same time making it known that you are firm and won't be walked on, these girls will pick up on it and things should go smoothly. Don't let her use your phone. Don't agree to give her a ride afterwards. If you're in your vehicle, don't even let her linger while she uses her phone or whatever the hell else she asks you to do. Just say "you want to get out here or you want me to drop you off where I got you? Period. The SW game is definitely much much different than the escort or spa scene. Especially in these unsure times. As another post said, make absolutely sure you're not putting yourself at risk for robbery, violence, plain old okey doke running around or arrest.

As for the dopeheads / handlers / boyfriends. Who knows. Honestly, it's tough to tell sometimes. A man could be the woman's handler, boyfriend and fellow addict all at the same time. Unfortunately there's just no easy way to tell who they are. Most are street people who just hang in the area because that's where the drugs are and are acquainted with the girls. That's why the girls are there. They can walk 200 feet and grab a fix after your magical car date. Sigh. Pimps are typically at the hotel or in a car. Hoes walk the street, boyfriends and addicts lurk. It's very annoying to see a couple of SW's who are surrounded by idiots. I just drive on by and keep looking.

And remember, it's not a crime to offer someone a ride! If you're pulled over before you get down to it, tell her to say you offered a ride and she accepted and make sure you both know where to say you're riding her to! If you both stick to the script you may just go home.

Stay safe.

[Bouinage]

I've only rarely encountered a similar scenario, and if I see someone dressed like a hoe, I'd more than likely assume she is a hoe, and that pay-4-play is an option. If I'm wrong, then she shouldn't have been dressed like that. Next thought would be to make sure there are no LEOs lurking around, or spying, if that hadn't already been done. Last thing you want to be doing is thinking with your little head, and staring right at those gigantic melons and being obvious while LE is watching you. Assuming the area appears to be clear of LEOs, I'd be on the lookout for anyone that might do me harm. Anyone that might rob, or mug me. If I didn't see anyone that I thought might do that, then I might have smiled, and made a friendly gesture for her to come to me, and I might ask her if she could use some company. She might then reply, "Sure. What do you have in mind?" and that's when you could reply back with specifics to see if she'd be down with it. If she was, and I went back into her room, I'd make a point to check the bathroom, closet, and if there is room to where someone could fit underneath the bed, there too. She might think that's a bit unnecessary, or that you're being paranoid, but better safe than sorry I say. If you feel that there is any reason that you could be putting yourself in danger, I'd say pass on it. I'd like to agree with BackpageDude in the assumption that most of the time time, they're just interested in making money, and not ripping anyone off, or doing anything that could potentially bring in the police. That said, I think there still is that small percentage of idiots that would try to do something stupid, and because of that would still be cautious. Especially with this being someone you've never met before or know anything about. Now if you end up seeing her repeatedly, you would have past experiences to go by in determining how trustworthy she is moving forward, but on a first time deal, I'd be careful because you don't have that past experience to go on as far as how someone usually operates.

I'd also add that, I'd take into account whatever she was doing at the time that I found her in sizing up what the risk would be in going back to her room. If it appeared she was going to walk the streets, and you caught her just as she was walking out of her room, I'd assume there is most likely no one lurking in her room looking to mug or jump ya. If she's hanging out by her room, and not going anywhere, then I think that might warrant a little bit more caution even though it's probably okay to go inside based on the assumption that they want money, not police.

As for the guy you mentioned, if it were me, I'd wonder if it might be a boyfriend, or boyfriend / pimp as that might explain why she would avoid eye contact with you while he's around. He might have some jealousy or insecurity issues that she doesn't want to deal with. If it's a pimp, it could be that she was wanting to make money without him knowing since pimps typically take everything they make, and she might have wanted to have a little bit of money for herself to spend on whatever. Cigarettes, a coke, etc. Without having to get permission from a pimp to do so. I've come across a couple of SWs in the past that wanted to secretly keep some money for themselves from what they'd call their "old man". Those would be my thoughts on it.

Pretty simple I have done it a lot. Just wave kinda point at you and her she will let you no by doing a come on in wave. Far as the dude who knows if he look ruff and walking I would say just a user hanging around but if he dressed ok in a car who knows. Could have been a friend who dropped her off a handler a BF which is still a handler. I have saw a countless number of guys with chicks and they don't worry me bc they there to make money not to start trouble they not gone mess up their place of business for nothing. People that rob that's what they do rob, they don't be around long after they make a good hit for fear of LEO or retaliation. I have also missed out on some fine chicks by doing what you did. I was on SC about 3 months ago and saw a chick leaving a motel I pulled into the motel lot and tap the horn before she hit the side walk she was dressed real nice hot body she looked at me I waved for her to come here she got in and we went to her room. We got done she hit the streets.

Gents, I appreciate all the input! Hoping soon I can post something useful!

Also, the Golden Coral line had me LMFAO.

[Jammer434]

Drove through Woodlawn the other night, and saw what appeared to be Snowy and Michelle out. They were both wearing long sleeved clothes that completely covered their arms, and legs. I suspect they choose to dress this way to hide their sores, and decided against picking them up based on what I already knew about them.

Then I saw another WSW out, and her boobs were kinda hanging out at first. She noticed me checking her boobs out, and made an unmistakable blow job gesture with her mouth and tongue as I passed her by. Checked the area for LEOs, and didn't see any. I did see the LE tower in the back towards the Radisson Hotel is still up, moved out of sight of the tower to where she was. Another monger was talking to her through his car window, and then got spooked by me coming up along with the guys standing around nearby, that might or might not have been pimps. So he drove off, and I heard the WSW tell one of them that "You're scaring them off!" before pulling up to her. Once I pulled up, I asked her if she could do anything for 20 to which she replied, "Hell no!" And then I drove off. The next day, I took that 20 and went to Golden Corral and enjoyed myself a nice steak dinner. Her loss I guess.

Also, I didn't notice it when I first passed her by, but when I got up close to ask her if she could work with 20, I noticed she had sores all over her chest as well. So between who I think to be Snowy, and Michelle wearing clothing that completely covers their arms and legs, and the sores that were visible on the other SW I talked to, I left with the impression that a bunch of sores is about the only thing I was missing out on Woodlawn. At least for that night anyway. Stay safe guys.

[Jammer434]

I guess you haven't been doing this long its always guys hanging around SW'S the chicks lose dates bc of some guy standing to close. The guys be users an want to stay close make it seem like he helping her so when she get some paper he can get high with her. I'm not saying there are no handlers but those tacky looking dudes you see on the streets are addicts. Some times you see a bf an gf who has fallen together on the stuff and she become a SW and he follow her around can't say I blame him. Some handlers start chicks out on the stuff and lose them bc the stuff become the handler. But in most cases when you see guys hanging around SW'S or chicks in motels its just a dope head. Most chicks with handlers are more upscale and don't do hard drugs bc like I said the drugs will become the handler.

I will admit, I know little about drugs, and drug culture as my only real addiction in life has been "pussy". I have never smoked, and hardly ever drink. Probably about as drug free as they come. I figure the pussy addiction costs me enough to where I don't really need any other.

But I am glad that you mentioned the dopeheads, as I did not realize they play a distinct role in our hobby that is separate from that of a pimp. Previously, I had assumed that if it appears someone is working with a SW that their role must be that of a pimp, or handler, and that they must be closely associated, but can see from what you are saying that, that may not necessarily be true. From my travels, I can see where in some cases, what it would appear you have is a whole community of dopeheads (lazy looking, unkempt people) that hang around the SWs, and vice versa. They don't appear aggressive, or over-domineering. They just look like lazy bums hanging out. In other cases, I have seen guys hitting a SW in the face, in which case, I'd assume that would more likely be a pimp acting out over the SW not making enough money for him then it would a dopehead.

Based on that, it would seem like the most notable difference between a pimp and a dopehead would be one sometimes using violence to control, and beat someone into submission, and the other not doing that.

[Jammer434]

I don't have any experience with SW, my car doesn't have AC (all to the monger!) So would appreciate how yall would have approached the following scenario. The other day at a hotel, I saw a FINE AA lady leaning up against the door to her room. Low cut tank, no bra, tons of cleavage, and wearing sweatpants. Looked like a handler leaning against a car nearby. When I walked past her she didn't look at me, while getting in the car, the handler left and then she started looking at me! I made it obvious that I was checking her out, not hard to do, driving slow and staring, LOL. She returned my stare with a slight smile and we watched each other as I drove away.

Thoughts? Was she working or just enjoying the attention. Boyfriend or handler? Is there something discreet I could have said to her to let her know I was willing to play? Its no worries if you don't feel comfortable giving away your best lines LOL!

I've only rarely encountered a similar scenario, and if I see someone dressed like a hoe, I'd more than likely assume she is a hoe, and that pay-4-play is an option. If I'm wrong, then she shouldn't have been dressed like that. Next thought would be to make sure there are no LEOs lurking around, or spying, if that hadn't already been done. Last thing you want to be doing is thinking with your little head, and staring right at those gigantic melons and being obvious while LE is watching you. Assuming the area appears to be clear of LEOs, I'd be on the lookout for anyone that might do me harm. Anyone that might rob, or mug me. If I didn't see anyone that I thought might do that, then I might have smiled, and made a friendly gesture for her to come to me, and I might ask her if she could use some company. She might then reply, "Sure. What do you have in mind?" and that's when you could reply back with specifics to see if she'd be down with it. If she was, and I went back into her room, I'd make a point to check the bathroom, closet, and if there is room to where someone could fit underneath the bed, there too. She might think that's a bit unnecessary, or that you're being paranoid, but better safe than sorry I say. If you feel that there is any reason that you could be putting yourself in danger, I'd say pass on it. I'd like to agree with BackpageDude in the assumption that most of the time time, they're just interested in making money, and not ripping anyone off, or doing anything that could potentially bring in the police. That said, I think there still is that small percentage of idiots that would try to do something stupid, and because of that would still be cautious. Especially with this being someone you've never met before or know anything about. Now if you end up seeing her repeatedly, you would have past experiences to go by in determining how trustworthy she is moving forward, but on a first time deal, I'd be careful because you don't have that past experience to go on as far as how someone usually operates.

I'd also add that, I'd take into account whatever she was doing at the time that I found her in sizing up what the risk would be in going back to her room. If it appeared she was going to walk the streets, and you caught her just as she was walking out of her room, I'd assume there is most likely no one lurking in her room looking to mug or jump ya. If she's hanging out by her room, and not going anywhere, then I think that might warrant a little bit more caution even though it's probably okay to go inside based on the assumption that they want money, not police.

As for the guy you mentioned, if it were me, I'd wonder if it might be a boyfriend, or boyfriend / pimp as that might explain why she would avoid eye contact with you while he's around. He might have some jealousy or insecurity issues that she doesn't want to deal with. If it's a pimp, it could be that she was wanting to make money without him knowing since pimps typically take everything they make, and she might have wanted to have a little bit of money for herself to spend on whatever. Cigarettes, a coke, etc. Without having to get permission from a pimp to do so. I've come across a couple of SWs in the past that wanted to secretly keep some money for themselves from what they'd call their "old man". Those would be my thoughts on it.

[Bouinage]

I don't have any experience with SW, my car doesn't have AC (all to the monger!) So would appreciate how yall would have approached the following scenario. The other day at a hotel, I saw a FINE AA lady leaning up against the door to her room. Low cut tank, no bra, tons of cleavage, and wearing sweatpants. Looked like a handler leaning against a car nearby. When I walked past her she didn't look at me, while getting in the car, the handler left and then she started looking at me! I made it obvious that I was checking her out, not hard to do, driving slow and staring, LOL. She returned my stare with a slight smile and we watched each other as I drove away.

Thoughts? Was she working or just enjoying the attention. Boyfriend or handler? Is there something discreet I could have said to her to let her know I was willing to play? Its no worries if you don't feel comfortable giving away your best lines LOL!

[Gigabyte40]

See link below, could be either or both! Guess it could be empty as well LOL.

https://www.flir.com/products/skywatch/

Great video. That one sure looks real inside. Fully equipped.

Maybe there's a cheaper stripped down model for sale too.

Either way it's a good deterrent.

GB40.

[Mark User]

Haven't stopped in a while but did today with bad traffic. SC and Reagan: Police Tower up at 7/11. A string of 2 WSW and 1 BSW quite well-separated seemed to be walking in single file from Reagan north of S to Regan south of SC, all the way down to the inns. And then walk back.

[Bouinage]

I know those police towers are a great crime deterrent. They give the impression that police are watching the area from the tower.

Does anybody know if the police actually watch anything? Or do they just park the thing for a couple of weeks then move on.

I doubt there is ever anyone inside the tower. I guess the cameras could be real. I've never seen any of the lights on it used.

Ideas?

GB40.

See link below, could be either or both! Guess it could be empty as well LOL.

https://www.flir.com/products/skywatch/

[Plunksixty]

I've wondered the same thing. Anyone every see anyone getting in or getting out of one? Anyone tried their polarized fishing classes to see if someone was inside?

They don't have to sit in those towers.

The towers are equipped with high zoom pan and tilt cameras and LEO can watch life footage from any computer.

They mainly use them from remote (close by but out of sight) to monitor hot spots for drug traffic.

There is most likely no blinking red light indicating that you're on air.

I would certainly act like a law abiding citizen around them.

[DeathByStereo]

I've wondered the same thing. Anyone every see anyone getting in or getting out of one? Anyone tried their polarized fishing classes to see if someone was inside?

I'm with you, but it still makes me nervous. Like another post said, the cameras could be rolling and observed remotely.

I'm guessing the neighborhood watches the police just the same as the police watch the neighborhood. It seems that maybe the girls know when the tower is occupied or not? I've cruised the area a few times recently and twice was completely dead but yesterday was very active. It seemed everyone and their mother was out working, one BSW was walking SC right in front of the tower eyeing every vehicle for potential friends, while JJ was stumbling around high as fuck working Regan.

Maybe for now that's the cue for business as usual-if they're out, it's cool.

[SingleGuyClt]

I've wondered the same thing. Anyone every see anyone getting in or getting out of one? Anyone tried their polarized fishing classes to see if someone was inside?

The towers are monitored at a central surveillance center that is manned 24/7.

http://wfae.org/post/cmpd-set-expand...llance-network#stream /0.

[JethRotheRed]

I know those police towers are a great crime deterrent. They give the impression that police are watching the area from the tower.

Does anybody know if the police actually watch anything? Or do they just park the thing for a couple of weeks then move on.

I doubt there is ever anyone inside the tower. I guess the cameras could be real. I've never seen any of the lights on it used.

Ideas?

GB40.

I've wondered the same thing. Anyone every see anyone getting in or getting out of one? Anyone tried their polarized fishing classes to see if someone was inside?