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  1. #562

    Perjury

    Would it be perjury or at least lying to a judge if the claim on a search warrant request identified probable cause for human trafficking? Or can they claim anything (aliens, spilt milk, Bigfoot) and it becomes the judges responsibility to believe them or not? If someone lies to a judge as a defendant or witness its perjury. The sheriff is a witness to a crime and the search warrant is produced based on that proof or probable proof?

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  3. #560
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1797
    Quote Originally Posted by punteruk  [View Original Post]
    More Kraft.

    I was hopeful the Kraft case would have the side benefit of exposing the "trafficking" myth used by police in any and all busts. It looks like it's starting to happen.

    https://nypost.com/2019/03/28/lawyer...titution-case/

    Choice quotes:

    "His outraged was sparked by the sheriff, who repeatedly insisted human trafficking was at the heart of the arrests, later admitting to Florida's WPTV that his office was "just a little short to being able to prove" that. ".

    "You don't get on a soapbox and start accusing people of being involved in human trafficking and then, weeks later, say 'Nevermind' and think that's the way you can get away with that. ".

    "They are supposed to be upholding the law. They are supposed to be officers of justice, but instead, he's concocting false allegations against people in order to further headlines rather than justice. ".

    Damn straight!
    The link is broken. I'd love to read the article but no can do. Could you repost it please?

  4. #559

    More Kraft

    More Kraft.

    I was hopeful the Kraft case would have the side benefit of exposing the "trafficking" myth used by police in any and all busts. It looks like it's starting to happen.

    https://nypost.com/2019/03/28/lawyer...titution-case/

    Choice quotes:

    "His outraged was sparked by the sheriff, who repeatedly insisted human trafficking was at the heart of the arrests, later admitting to Florida's WPTV that his office was "just a little short to being able to prove" that. ".

    "You don't get on a soapbox and start accusing people of being involved in human trafficking and then, weeks later, say 'Nevermind' and think that's the way you can get away with that. ".

    "They are supposed to be upholding the law. They are supposed to be officers of justice, but instead, he's concocting false allegations against people in order to further headlines rather than justice. ".

    Damn straight!

  5. #558

    Disruption. Kraft's bad luck: Bigger loss for Mongers

    Quote Originally Posted by Longjblues  [View Original Post]
    Krafts reputation has already taken a hit. However, when you have billions, do you really care outside of your family and friends? Additionally, the public has a very short term focus, particularly when you are donating to women's shelters and women charities. Kraft will recover.

    Kraft needs to suppress the video and get a not guilty for purposes of the NFL more than anything. I know that the NFL can still penalize him but the other grumpy old owners can't feign outrage and disgust with a not guilty.
    Kraft is a bizillionare and has been a likable high profile owner. But right now I am more concerned about the disruptions this has all created at least on the East coast for the AMP scene. Whether he gets 1 game to 1 year suspension doesn't help us to get the service we have been accustomed. Moving onward in our hobbying pursuits.

  6. #557
    Senior Member


    Posts: 2942

    Dumb Article

    Please don't give idiots like this traction.

    I wrote him and asked him why he told so many lies but when you put links to an article on his site here he gets a bump in traffic and a back link.

    I refuse to help lying cocksuckers like that get a podium.

    He said you guys are forced to pay for a membership when not only don't we offer paid memberships (we want to but it's complicated) you guys couldn't pay us if you tried.

    A2

  7. #556
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulRew  [View Original Post]
    Got an email from P411 today, same offer. I am skeptical. Any members currently active on P411?
    I got the same message and its legit. If you don't trust the link just go to the regular site and sign in and the option for the free time is there. At least it was for me.

  8. #555
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1417

    Regular site box?

    Quote Originally Posted by RetailWorker  [View Original Post]
    I have been a member for a little over a year now and didn't receive any such email. When I actually do get a message, it's from the regular site inbox which I get a notification.
    Can you pm me the email address so I can compare bc getting one from p411 and onebackpage on same day. I don't teust replying to either.

  9. #554

    Highlights what retards cops are

    Which always makes me happy.

    Of course it will never make any difference to the 'cops are heros' crowd. Pathetic ilk. If you made water illegal, cops would just continue to follow orders and be the fools / tools that they are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Inside495  [View Original Post]

  10. #553
    Quote Originally Posted by Longjblues  [View Original Post]
    Krafts reputation has already taken a hit. However, when you have billions, do you really care outside of your family and friends? Additionally, the public has a very short term focus, particularly when you are donating to women's shelters and women charities. Kraft will recover.

    Kraft needs to suppress the video and get a not guilty for purposes of the NFL more than anything. I know that the NFL can still penalize him but the other grumpy old owners can't feign outrage and disgust with a not guilty.
    Of course they can. Zeke Elliott was suspended six games even though he wasn't even charged with a crime.

  11. #552

    No email.

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulRew  [View Original Post]
    Got an email from P411 today, same offer. I am skeptical. Any members currently active on P411?
    I have been a member for a little over a year now and didn't receive any such email. When I actually do get a message, it's from the regular site inbox which I get a notification.

  12. #551
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  13. #550

    Same

    Quote Originally Posted by Ccup2  [View Original Post]
    I just received two seperate emails. One from oneback page and the other from p411. Backpage a 10 credit for me to post something and p411 an free opportunity to renew my acct. I will add my account has been inactive for well over 3 years.

    Why now on the same day do I recieve these offers. I am not responding but it has my thinking something is not right.
    Got an email from P411 today, same offer. I am skeptical. Any members currently active on P411?

  14. #549
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1417

    Call me paranoid

    Quote Originally Posted by Ccup2  [View Original Post]
    I just received two seperate emails. One from oneback page and the other from p411. Backpage a 10 credit for me to post something and p411 an free opportunity to renew my acct. I will add my account has been inactive for well over 3 years.

    Why now on the same day do I recieve these offers. I am not responding but it has my thinking something is not right.
    I knew the kraft bs would render this post unread.

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