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  1. #12911
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    Aclu

    Quote Originally Posted by Jusblaze1  [View Original Post]
    This happened under a Republican House / Senate / President. With that said it does not matter, both parties I am sure are against human trafficking. If I worked in congress I would do and say the same what do I care I have an unlimited source of 20 somethings at my disposal. BP and CL I now notice were too user friendly and most of these other sites are obtuse and poorly constructed. Easy to post, easy to search, find, and enjoy. Anyways it is gone and not coming back. No Governor, state AG, etc etc will allow it back. The owners arrested so why would they come back. Lawyer advise clients to take their losses and move on.
    This may be a case for the ACLU to take to the Supreme Court.

    "The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is a national organization that works daily in courts, legislatures and communities to defend the individual rights and liberties guaranteed by the Constitution and laws of the United States. " BP / CL can go to the ACLU or even you as an individual because you as a citizen want to search the "Personal Ads" to find a match and the government is over reaching with their authority taking these formats away from you. People's right to express themselves to connect with other people to find a match out weights and unlawful activity that may also occur on that website.

    Hoes currently use dating apps like Tinder and POF. Also Facebook and Instagram and tweeter, are they going to go after those behemoths as well? I think the answer is no. There is something Un-American about these new tactics,. Cellular phones is a major component for providers to conduct their business, are they going to shut down Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile and Cricket, Metro PCS etc. . Again I think the answer is no.

    The thing that may save BP / CL is their is not like Silk Roads, which was explicitly dedicated to illegal activity. BP / CL had other posting to sell cars and other items. If a case went all the way to the Supreme Court, I think they will win. Though they will not be back online in the immediate future, I think they will come back.

  2. #12910
    Quote Originally Posted by Jusblaze1  [View Original Post]
    If I worked in congress I would do and say the same what do I care I have an unlimited source of 20 somethings at my disposal.
    Nope, not after #MeToo! Haven't you been following the news?

    This happened under a Republican House / Senate / President.
    Interestingly enough I reviewed several other boards and the notion that the Republicans caused this, by and large, does have some support among members. But I don't understand why [Deleted by Admin]

    Then let me help you

    The Executive, Judicial, and Legislative branches of government are all in the hands of Republicans and a law that was introduced by a Republican, and was passed (though not signed) by a majority of Republicans and is sitting on a Republican (kind of) presidents desk to be signed. So that's why people are saying Republicans did it. I'm politically apathetic, but if you are a supporter of the Republican party you gotta own this, you don't get to blame it on somebody else, if you support them the only thing you get to say is "my guys did this."

    Pretty simple.

    A2

  3. #12909
    Quote Originally Posted by Feldman  [View Original Post]
    "No, you don't get to do that. You don't get to blame this on Democrats in any way."

    It passed the House 388-25 and the Senate 94-2. I didn't realize that the Republicans had such majorities.
    This happened under a Republican House / Senate / President. With that said it does not matter, both parties I am sure are against human trafficking. If I worked in congress I would do and say the same what do I care I have an unlimited source of 20 somethings at my disposal. BP and CL I now notice were too user friendly and most of these other sites are obtuse and poorly constructed. Easy to post, easy to search, find, and enjoy. Anyways it is gone and not coming back. No Governor, state AG, etc etc will allow it back. The owners arrested so why would they come back. Lawyer advise clients to take their losses and move on.

  4. #12908
    "No, you don't get to do that. You don't get to blame this on Democrats in any way."

    It passed the House 388-25 and the Senate 94-2. I didn't realize that the Republicans had such majorities.

  5. #12907
    [Deleted by Admin]

    No, you don't get to do that. You don't get to blame this on Democrats in any way.

    I'm politically apathetic but your guys have all three branches of government, if you are a fan of the Republican team than all you get to say is "my guys are doing this." That's it, nothing else, no spinning, no deflecting, no Obama, Hillary, Bill, nothing, this is being done by the Republicans end of story.

    A2

  6. #12906
    Republicans has their prioritize straight. Play all the christian cards and act all holy while they are taking one freedom after another away in the name of their religion and national security. Land of the free no more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimoronic  [View Original Post]
    You'd think the right-wingers would be trying to shut down Grindr, but no, they're going after the straight guy. I hope the streets of Washington fill up with streetwalkers like the good old days.

  7. #12905

    City X Guide

    I noticed the sudden spike in ads in April on City X Guide. You better copy all of the numbers and photos, before they disappear.

    https://cityxguide.com/c/maryland/

  8. #12904

    Glad you found it

    Quote Originally Posted by PuhCFiller99  [View Original Post]
    Hey all, long time reader, but first time poster here. I thought that I would give my 2 cents about another site to gander at for those who may not already know it.

    http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds


    Enjoy.
    You know that is this site's ad site, right? Jackson and posters here have recommended it for a while now. Glad the word is finally getting out.

  9. #12903

    Another ad site for mongers

    Hey all, long time reader, but first time poster here. I thought that I would give my 2 cents about another site to gander at for those who may not already know it.

    http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds


    Enjoy.

  10. #12902

    Another BP replacement.

    https://www.ebackpage.com

    No ads yet in our region. I do see some on Boston and Atlanta.

  11. #12901

    So true

    Quote Originally Posted by OldChineseGuy  [View Original Post]
    Implying that mongers would start raping women because we cannot get relief does not follow any logic. I would say that 99.9% of us on this site would never make a provider (let alone regular women) do what she does not want to do. The majority of us come to an agreement for services, if agreed to services are not provided, then provider does not get paid. Even if provider takes money upfront and decides to not provide agreed to services, the majority of us would just walk away rather than force her to provide services. I myself have never ever forced a women (or provider) to do what she does not want to do and I believe I speak for the majority of us mongers. Again increased crime because providers cannot make money through online contacts is stretching things a bit. Don't get me wrong, I am against all this regulation of online services. I agree with others that I do not see a difference between print ads and online ads so am wondering why online ads are being targeted.
    I agree. Rape is an act of violence, not a way for a man to seek relief. That's the ultimate act of disrespecting a woman. A lot of powerful men in the business world, the church, entertainment and politics are in deep trouble or facing ruined careers because they refused to respect women's boundaries. As for junkies, maybe this will force them to consider getting clean. I'm grateful for groups like AA, NA and other organizations which have helped some of my relatives achieve and maintain sobriety.

    I'm disgusted with the recent turn of events concerning Backpage, Craigslist, Eccie, TER and other sites, and I'm disgusted with the lack of respect our federal, state and local governments have for the Constitution. But that doesn't and shouldn't mean we'll see an increase in rape, robbery or other types of crime.

  12. #12900

    Bp

    If I remember correctly wasn't BP kinda big and bold and a little in the Governments face, thinking they wouldn't lose, when the Gov went after um about their Escort section? Maybe that's why the Gov went hard and took EVERYTHING from BP, and is only warning everyone else. Just saying. I still think it will all settle down after a while, fingers crossed.

  13. #12899

    Non sequitur

    Quote Originally Posted by DropaLoad  [View Original Post]
    Hopefully Jackson can now clean up with his classifieds. It will be interesting to see if rape statistics jump up as a result of men not getting relief or if burglary and robbery goes up as junkies can no longer make a buck through sex. This is what you get when you want government to regulate morals.
    Implying that mongers would start raping women because we cannot get relief does not follow any logic. I would say that 99.9% of us on this site would never make a provider (let alone regular women) do what she does not want to do. The majority of us come to an agreement for services, if agreed to services are not provided, then provider does not get paid. Even if provider takes money upfront and decides to not provide agreed to services, the majority of us would just walk away rather than force her to provide services. I myself have never ever forced a women (or provider) to do what she does not want to do and I believe I speak for the majority of us mongers. Again increased crime because providers cannot make money through online contacts is stretching things a bit. Don't get me wrong, I am against all this regulation of online services. I agree with others that I do not see a difference between print ads and online ads so am wondering why online ads are being targeted.

  14. #12898
    Quote Originally Posted by Ebdawgg  [View Original Post]

    I bet BP's lawyers are working overtime and have a plan.
    At least in BP's case, you missed that BP and all of it's related assets were seized. That means it ALL belongs to the government now. That means BP has no money to pay lawyers to defend it. It is a fundamental problem with asset seizures.

    Now the sites that shut down voluntarily MAY be able to bring a case to challenge the law, but there is probably an unspoken agreement that the government will let them keep what they have right now, if they don't challenge, but if they do decide to challenge expect the full weight of the government (IRS, FBI, more seizures, etc.) to go against the site, it's owners, it's lawyers, the hosting services, etc. There are no more Larry Flints in the world willing to stake their reputation, fortune, and freedom for this fight.

    I kind of think that they HAD to seize BP, because with the various changes over time (getting rid of services, then changing how much info could be in personals, etc), BP could have made the case that they were trying to solve the problem, they just handn't found what worked yet; and a jury (or at least some of a jury) may have believed them. By seizing, there will be no challenge.

    I have no idea how lucrative these sites were, but my guess is most owners and operators are just going to take what they have and get out of the game.

  15. #12897

    So it begins.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steverino1968  [View Original Post]
    The law holds website operators criminally liable for posts made by others, even if the posts themselves reflect no criminal conduct. Criminal liabilty is evidently based solely on the perception that a website in some way facilitates prostitution or trafficking, which invites arbitrary prosecution. Basically, the law implicitly compels website operators to strictly curate -- and filter / edit -- all user posts and user generated content. Though seriously defective from a constitutional standpoint, the law is well aligned with the interests of Facebook, Twitter, and the other first tier social media platforms, whom I suspect lobbied for it.
    Unless the BP attorneys are morons, they'll raise the 1st amendment defense well as possibly other constitutional issues. We just need to wait and see how the courts decide the merits of the case (unless procedural issues render this analysis academic). It may take years to decide if appeals are granted. Based on the seizure notice, this may end up in the 9th federal circuit. They're typically more liberal than the rest of the USA This may end up at the supreme court 6-7 years from now. This not the end. Only the beginning.

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