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  1. #999
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    I Doubt Prostitution Prices Will Go Down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Walker333  [View Original Post]
    Let's hope, because it will bring some new, better talent and the prices will go down, as well, due to real competition.
    With taxes, licensing fees, and other fees, legal prostitution will be more expensive. I doubt indies and massage parlors will go away.

    Marijuana black market is thriving in the legal Marijuana era.

  2. #998

    Well.

    Quote Originally Posted by RonM  [View Original Post]
    I'll bet Prostitution is being considered for legalisation. Most likely it's not the Cash Cow Marijuana is. But it's possibly decent enough for taxation revenue.
    Let's hope, because it will bring some new, better talent and the prices will go down, as well, due to real competition.

  3. #997
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    As Bad As Tax Revenues Are These Days

    I'll bet Prostitution is being considered for legalisation. Most likely it's not the Cash Cow Marijuana is. But it's possibly decent enough for taxation revenue.

  4. #996

    Probably a very slight chance

    Quote Originally Posted by Satriani  [View Original Post]
    Decriminalizing prostitution: An idea whose time has come?

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/colum...uie-story.html
    Those who decide do not anticipate a big increase in revenue, unlike with pot. Moreover, there is an army of watch dogs. Jealous, greedy wives. How can a prosperous politician, good hubby' and daddy explain at how that he voted for permission to purchase a pussy.

  5. #995

    Steve Chapman

    Quote Originally Posted by Satriani  [View Original Post]
    Decriminalizing prostitution: An idea whose time has come?

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/colum...uie-story.html
    He's the house libertarian, so not a big ideological breakthrough.

  6. #994

    There's some hope

    Decriminalizing prostitution: An idea whose time has come?

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/colum...uie-story.html

  7. #993
    Quote Originally Posted by FafaFooey  [View Original Post]
    There's a lot of grey areas on both sides of the argument.



    On our side of things, we do need to stop projecting the image of the nice, independent girl just trying to pay her way through college onto every provider that throws up an ad, because unfortunately the truth behind the scenes is a lot of times much sadder. If we ever want to see this legalized, then both sides need to be there, both the free market and removal of criminalization, and support for low-income, addicted, or exploited girls that want help.
    This is why I don't partake in the lower end of the market. It's rife with this kind of stuff. Guys post reviews of girls passing out during their sessions and other guys want more info. Disgusting.

  8. #992
    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeStark  [View Original Post]
    Babylon Bee is similar to The Onion, but not very funny.

  9. #991
    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeStark  [View Original Post]
    Is it just me or does the award look like it could be used as a dildo?

    RBD out.

  10. #990

  11. #989
    There's a lot of grey areas on both sides of the argument.

    Stings used to almost always target the women, but there was backlash, some of it well thought out, that it was just leading to a bunch of young, poor, addicted women getting saddled with fines they'd never pay and court appearances they'd never make with no effort at all to help them out of their situations. So to make enforcement sound more societally beneficial, the focus shifted to 'end the demand' and shaming men caught trying to hobby. It still didn't do anything to help the women that might want help, but at least stopped portraying them as the criminals. In the last few years, the 'trafficking' angle is almost always used, since that's pretty widely agreed on as a universal evil. But as you already mentioned, its much more likely a girl is being victimized or exploited by a local pimp or 'handler' (or even an agency from some of the posts in those threads) than a 'Law and Order' stereotyped trafficker funneling busloads of underage girls in from other countries.

    On our side of things, we do need to stop projecting the image of the nice, independent girl just trying to pay her way through college onto every provider that throws up an ad, because unfortunately the truth behind the scenes is a lot of times much sadder. If we ever want to see this legalized, then both sides need to be there, both the free market and removal of criminalization, and support for low-income, addicted, or exploited girls that want help.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeStark  [View Original Post]
    I think it's some of each. The "Scandinavian model" definitely comes out of the "Man bad, woman good" mindset of radical feminism. (In fairness, there are feminists who favor legalization. But they don't drive policy in most places.).

    But there's a lot of Puritanism or whatever you want to call it, driving the enforcement as well.

    And then there's the people living whee it's happening, especially with streetwalkers. I wouldn't want that happening in front of my house. But a mile away? Sure, LOL. Of course, the people living there feel the same way.

    Also, agreed on the erroneous conflation of consensual escorting with "trafficking". I think most or nearly all of us here will avoid situations involving pimps or other coercive setups. That shit is disgusting

  12. #988

    If it was me I wouldn't.

    If I encountered an ongoing sting there is no way I would post it here or anywhere. Obstruction of Justice or "Interfering with a police investigation" by posting it on the internet when the police have my name would not be worth the risk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fdottt  [View Original Post]
    But did you come back on here and post the ad stating "this was a trap"?
    .

  13. #987

    AMPs in all types of towns

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago41  [View Original Post]
    I don't think it's as much feminism as the fucking religious and social moralism. A bunch of people in our society think sex work is "icky" and that's why they want Dart and other busting hookers and their customers, people can't imagine that anyone could feel differently about than they do and don't want to respect that difference. They can give speeches all they like with their PR bullshit about "saving trafficked women", but if they really cared about ttrafficking victims they would stop busting consenting adults for doing something that harms nobody, go after actual traffickers, and offer consenting hookers protection under the law. It's all politics and PR, which is why Dart always steps up his arrests by a huge amount in election years. It's lazy policing and it harms as many as it helps because hookers can't go to the cops when some asshole beats them up or robs them.
    Consider the towns were AMPs flourish, and what drives that. Or should I say, no one cares. Look at Naperville. That place is loaded with AMPs. It's not a town we would normally associate with the ones that are down on their luck and are willing to let anything exist if it brings in the tax dollars. It very upper middle class. Then there is Spring Grove that just a couple months ago had its one and only AMP shut down. That town is suffering, yet they shut down an AMP you had to look really hard for to find.

    And things change. In the 80's if you looked in the Chicago Yellow Pages under Massage, you'd see ads for Tokyo Spa and Osaka Spa, in Michigan City, IN. Nothing erotic listed for Chicago. Now Chicago is loaded.

  14. #986
    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago41  [View Original Post]
    I don't think it's as much feminism as the fucking religious and social moralism.

    . They can give speeches all they like with their PR bullshit about "saving trafficked women", but if they really cared about ttrafficking victims they would stop busting consenting adults...
    I think it's some of each. The "Scandinavian model" definitely comes out of the "Man bad, woman good" mindset of radical feminism. (In fairness, there are feminists who favor legalization. But they don't drive policy in most places.).

    But there's a lot of Puritanism or whatever you want to call it, driving the enforcement as well.

    And then there's the people living whee it's happening, especially with streetwalkers. I wouldn't want that happening in front of my house. But a mile away? Sure, LOL. Of course, the people living there feel the same way.

    Also, agreed on the erroneous conflation of consensual escorting with "trafficking". I think most or nearly all of us here will avoid situations involving pimps or other coercive setups. That shit is disgusting

  15. #985
    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeStark  [View Original Post]
    The feminist bullshit that has infested our legal and political systems says that the women are all victims of eeevilll men. So when they catch the girls, they often get sent to rehab of some sort, for drugs, or "rehab" for prostitution. It's called the "Scandinavian model".

    Persecuting and prosecuting men is, indeed, aimed at decreasing the demand. That's also some sort of "model".

    Some countries have taken it a step further: it's illegal to buy sex, but not to sell it. That's also the Scandinavian model.
    I don't think it's as much feminism as the fucking religious and social moralism. A bunch of people in our society think sex work is "icky" and that's why they want Dart and other busting hookers and their customers, people can't imagine that anyone could feel differently about than they do and don't want to respect that difference. They can give speeches all they like with their PR bullshit about "saving trafficked women", but if they really cared about ttrafficking victims they would stop busting consenting adults for doing something that harms nobody, go after actual traffickers, and offer consenting hookers protection under the law. It's all politics and PR, which is why Dart always steps up his arrests by a huge amount in election years. It's lazy policing and it harms as many as it helps because hookers can't go to the cops when some asshole beats them up or robs them.

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