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  1. #2956
    Quote Originally Posted by DeMeter  [View Original Post]
    That when LE attacked AMP, they brought bunch of evidence like voice recording (no matter how reliable those sources are) forcing (or asking) girls to wake up at 4 am then have sex with a man hesitating her to get awake? Or asking girls to go out and get answer that mamasan would not let her out.

    (It will be used as evidence of forcing sexual activity or confining human freedom of sleeping and going out).

    Sounds there are some informer helping authority.
    I wish I could understand your posts better. They sound like fun.

  2. #2955
    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBlows  [View Original Post]
    Nothing in the HPD arrest logs for Ward Ave for the last 2 days. If there were arrests, should have shown by now, either for trafficking or the mongers. This sounds like a ICE "raid" and not an police raid. I'm sure the girls are spooked and that's why no one is answering the phones.
    I have no first hand knowledge on these immigration / LEO AMP raids (investigations), however it stands to reason that if the Feds spent all those resources to deny massage businesses the ability to advertise online, they wouldn't stop there. The next phase is to harass these establishments from carrying on business as usual. The sex industry is resilient, but may be heading underground (making it less safe for both providers and patrons).

    I've read a few comments where mongers have complained about being treated rudely by mamas. Maybe police harassment has something to do with it (just speculation on my part). Be courteous and understanding Brothers. These women are under stress. Just because we have our forum back, doesn't mean everything is hunky dorey now. Stay safe, and reward those who deserve our support.

  3. #2954
    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBlows  [View Original Post]
    Nothing in the HPD arrest logs for Ward Ave for the last 2 days. If there were arrests, should have shown by now, either for trafficking or the mongers. This sounds like a ICE "raid" and not an police raid. I'm sure the girls are spooked and that's why no one is answering the phones.
    The news report said "nobody" was arrested.
    http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/3...an-trafficking[/QUOTE]

  4. #2953

    Tokyo

    Nothing in the HPD arrest logs for Ward Ave for the last 2 days. If there were arrests, should have shown by now, either for trafficking or the mongers. This sounds like a ICE "raid" and not an police raid. I'm sure the girls are spooked and that's why no one is answering the phones.

  5. #2952

    Have you guys heard?

    That when LE attacked AMP, they brought bunch of evidence like voice recording (no matter how reliable those sources are) forcing (or asking) girls to wake up at 4 am then have sex with a man hesitating her to get awake? Or asking girls to go out and get answer that mamasan would not let her out.

    (It will be used as evidence of forcing sexual activity or confining human freedom of sleeping and going out).

    Sounds there are some informer helping authority.

  6. #2951

    Tokyo Spa

    According to this report, it was a raid looking for evidence of trafficking.

    http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/3...an-trafficking

  7. #2950
    Quote Originally Posted by AssMan808  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the link.
    http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/3...an-trafficking

  8. #2949
    Quote Originally Posted by Blake123  [View Original Post]
    Here you go: http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/198303/livestream Story starts at
    approx. -27:19.

    Contrary to my earlier posting, ICE indeed was there (as well as HPD).
    Thanks for the link.

  9. #2948

    Inspections not Raid

    From my understanding ICE going in to check being most places but now the establishments are now aware of the work force law and now have girls filling out form I-9's. What I was told is the recent inspections had to do with IRS issues. Being the girls are of legal age and have working permits they are now checking to see if these workers are paying taxes. These inspections are not only at AMP's, they are aggressively looking at restaurants, bars, hotels, construction sites, farms amongst other working environments that has iffy working population where workers main income is tips has the possibility of ignoring the tax law.

    I was also told that law enforcement is monitoring this site, especially now that it's back online to see who is popular and making a lot of money then will go to their place of work to check to see if indeed that are paying taxes.

    There are several states nationwide that has tax laws for escort service, yes we can signup with the department of taxation in these states and fall under the escort tax category.

    As for therapeutic massage establishments where the property owner has a license to do massage, they are inspecting to see if the masseurs, female or male has the paperwork and training to do massage.

    Bottom line is they are going to places to do inspections and not "raids".

  10. #2947
    Quote Originally Posted by AssMan808  [View Original Post]
    Got a link to the story by any chance? Thanks.
    Here you go: http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/198303/livestream Story starts at
    approx. -27:19.

    Contrary to my earlier posting, ICE indeed was there (as well as HPD).

  11. #2946
    Quote Originally Posted by Blake123  [View Original Post]
    It was a raid. No mention of ICE being there. It was on Hawaii News Now. At least four LE with "POLICE" on the back of their shirts were carrying boxes of stuff from the AMP. The report also said no arrests were made.
    Got a link to the story by any chance? Thanks.

  12. #2945
    Quote Originally Posted by Blake123  [View Original Post]
    OK, then perhaps those stories you heard are just "stories."
    Idk. Suppose we'll find out when it all comes out in the wash.

  13. #2944
    Quote Originally Posted by PanochaMan  [View Original Post]
    The girls I talk with know me well and trust me.
    OK, then perhaps those stories you heard are just "stories."

  14. #2943
    Quote Originally Posted by Blake123  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, they normally are not willing to talk about it--unless they know you well.
    The girls I talk with know me well and trust me.

  15. #2942
    Quote Originally Posted by PanochaMan  [View Original Post]
    Thank you sir. Hearing stories right now about happiness yesterday and pinetree just now. I don't know how valid any of this is. Been told by one girl at happiness that they never come by yesterday.
    Yeah, they normally are not willing to talk about it--unless they know you well.

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