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  1. #3377

    Thank you.

    For posting that link. It was an interesting read.

  2. #3376
    It is legal if LE goes to the judge to get a warrant to set up the hidden camera. That was what they did using " human trafficking" as their reason to setup the camera. Now days they have camera to record in very low light condition. So don't be surprise they can have clear video of activity inside the room area.

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterChief69  [View Original Post]
    That would be illegal unless, the business agreed to it. In order to record the video in any recognizable definition, the tech would need to be posted very close by to capture anything wireless. There is no way they could hide recorders inside the AMP. The picture would be pretty horrible even at say 720 p. Think about the Red light. Search porn hub for the AMP hidden cam footage. I mean its entertaining but it would never hold up in court.

  3. #3375
    Quote Originally Posted by Bazinga808  [View Original Post]
    Should the places that just got raided recently in Hawaii be concerned if the raids were just used to evacuate spas and install cameras?
    That would be illegal unless, the business agreed to it. In order to record the video in any recognizable definition, the tech would need to be posted very close by to capture anything wireless. There is no way they could hide recorders inside the AMP. The picture would be pretty horrible even at say 720 p. Think about the Red light. Search porn hub for the AMP hidden cam footage. I mean its entertaining but it would never hold up in court.

  4. #3374
    Of course! They only use that Traff word to get the media involved.

  5. #3373

    My opinion.

    Human trafficking is only excuse.

    Now it may be money issue.

    Orland area alone government tracked at least 20 M dollar money laundering to China and in Manhattan area alone another 20 M dollar money laundering to China again.

    Do you know already Chinese government is very cooperative with american LE? Both fight a lot but now when it comes to money seizing against illegal activity (anyway officially China is very against sex consumption that is considered evil anti-people old dynasty and capitalism, so they have officially right reason to seize money in China.

    Have you ever experienced being charged of felony? For two-three years, prosecutors will charge new thing against you again and again till you just give up and go plea deal. It is prosecutor's job as acting as if you had good dick is pro's job.

    And when girls are considered victim, they will get offer. If women are cooperative, they will get T / you visa as victim but if they confess they liked their job, their fate is one, prison then deport.

    I think most Chinese women in that situation would choose her best interests.

    Interesting thing is that only Hawaii area bust is now concentrated on Korean spots while most big raids in mainland is against Chinese spots. Is it good sign or another ominous warning for further huger attacking?

  6. #3372

    No evidence of trafficking in Florida


  7. #3371

    I'm concerned

    Quote Originally Posted by Bazinga808  [View Original Post]
    Should the places that just got raided recently in Hawaii be concerned if the raids were just used to evacuate spas and install cameras?
    Quote Originally Posted by DaViper  [View Original Post]
    I wonder if the sting was to bust the John's cause if it was then Owner made a deal with cops to put cameras in there and they would get lighter chg. As for Hawaii yes I wouldn't be surprised if same thing would happen but as far as I know so far knock on wood they haven't gone after John's in Mp. Only downtown.
    I like the girls at Blue Star and Happiness. I'm hesitant to go now because of the recent LE action. I read the Florida articles and don't want to get caught up in that kind of roundup. I wonder how they I'd'd the johns. I know some were dumb enough to use their credit card. Kraft was I'd'd after he left the spa in a traffic stop. I assume to use in the arrest warrant.

  8. #3370

    A little paranoia is good

    Quote Originally Posted by Bazinga808  [View Original Post]
    Should the places that just got raided recently in Hawaii be concerned if the raids were just used to evacuate spas and install cameras?
    I now find myself looking all over rooms for cameras.

  9. #3369
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazinga808  [View Original Post]
    Should the places that just got raided recently in Hawaii be concerned if the raids were just used to evacuate spas and install cameras?
    I wonder if the sting was to bust the John's cause if it was then Owner made a deal with cops to put cameras in there and they would get lighter chg. As for Hawaii yes I wouldn't be surprised if same thing would happen but as far as I know so far knock on wood they haven't gone after John's in Mp. Only downtown.

  10. #3368
    Quote Originally Posted by Memahu  [View Original Post]
    Robert Kraft saved a couple of bucks going to a rub and tug in Florida. Then, got on his private plane to fly to Kansas City for the AFC championship.
    I would be happy if I'm sill busting a nut at 77 years old! LOL.

  11. #3367
    Quote Originally Posted by JoeVisitor  [View Original Post]
    Sounds like they got a warrant to place cameras inside the rooms based on concerns from a public health worker. They used a hokey bomb scare to go in and plant the cameras or at least that's what they want people to believe.
    Should the places that just got raided recently in Hawaii be concerned if the raids were just used to evacuate spas and install cameras?

  12. #3366

    Oh add.

    Quote Originally Posted by PearlJam  [View Original Post]
    The engineer or lawyer or something that turned it all in for pimping?

    I thought that dude was arrested recently in Texas or something.
    Blue angel too. Blue angel turned into dream spa.

    That place's registered owner was arrested together with hana mama at rejuve. He owned more places including recently raided by paper business license owner. Of course he would not take all the risk to protect AMP real owners.

  13. #3365
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/robert...ticles&via=rss

    Snyder said several men he described as mostly white were surveilled shuttling women every few weeks between massage parlors. A female victim of the trafficking ring said that "the man who was moving her around had a gun, and indicated that he would use it," according to Snyder. The men also threatened the women to prevent them from leaving the spas, he said. (The sheriff's office recovered two firearms during their raids of the parlors.).

    "We did get a sense that some of these men may have had these women as investments," Snyder said.

    Authorities are investigating the suspects' specific role in the trafficking ring. Snyder said his office is trying to obtain witness testimony that the suspects coerced women into performing sex acts against their will to bring human-trafficking charges against the men. Without a witness, Snyder said, his office may pursue charges such as racketeering and money laundering.

    // frankly speaking I think there are many guys who had done for pure intention. Just believing their aft to brag his ego and manly lindness. Southern state has quite generous gun policy. It is not surprising many (rich) white males carry gun with them.

    All can be translated into fucked up ways.

    They authority may insist "damn aggressive Chinese accent scared women victims." If this happens in Hawaii.

    I now feel very lucky that I could reject some girls' asking for riding to airport when they go to mainland or asking purchase of money order or sending money via money gram.

    And more lucky I just gave burner phone number and didn't contact with them through sns.

    But still scared.

    It seems that authority knows all but just let working Asian girls go and look for dumb victims for bigger charge on targets.

  14. #3364

    10 years ago in texas

    Quote Originally Posted by PearlJam  [View Original Post]
    The engineer or lawyer or something that turned it all in for pimping?

    I thought that dude was arrested recently in Texas or something.
    And he went plead guilty deal got probation.

    Then he came to hawaii and set up new legendary era of hawaii monger paradise with all chinwae women. Arrogant K girls and other asian women had to accept the reality of competition.

    Then went to nevada. There he was finally caught. He hs been being watched for ten years. He shoot himself not long ago.

  15. #3363
    Quote Originally Posted by Milo1988  [View Original Post]
    The real owner of empire, mayflower, China doll and more Chinese spots killed himself when he was again charged of 36 federal felony accounts.

    I think a girl wrote about him in forum.
    The engineer or lawyer or something that turned it all in for pimping?

    I thought that dude was arrested recently in Texas or something.

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