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[Luap52]

This short Youtube video from a defense lawyer explains what I was saying and why it's best to remain silent from the beginning. I'm not a lawyer so I may be misinterpreting some of it but I'd rather play it safe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaRnsgFfZUI

I apologize to the moderators if posting video links is not allowed. I'm only doing it for good of the brotherhood.

This is excellent. Thank you.

[JackMehauf]

Because some courts have ruled that once you begin answering questions, you have essentially waived your right to remain silent and that your "initiation" of silence at that point can now be considered incriminating evidence to be used against you. It sucks, it's not fair but it's reality.

This short Youtube video from a defense lawyer explains what I was saying and why it's best to remain silent from the beginning. I'm not a lawyer so I may be misinterpreting some of it but I'd rather play it safe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaRnsgFfZUI

I apologize to the moderators if posting video links is not allowed. I'm only doing it for good of the brotherhood.

[Androo75]

https://www.instagram.com/mugshawtys...Q5ZDc2ODk2ZA==

Man, what a world we live in.

Maybe some of our locals are shown.

[Parkway91]

Because some courts have ruled that once you begin answering questions, you have essentially waived your right to remain silent and that your "initiation" of silence at that point can now be considered incriminating evidence to be used against you. It sucks, it's not fair but it's reality.

Thanks, very insightful. I had never heard that angle before.

[JackMehauf]

Just wondering why it would not be a good answer to tell them you were there getting a massage and just not answer any questions past that. It's not illegal to get a massage. It seems like the decline answer might make them more agitated.

Because some courts have ruled that once you begin answering questions, you have essentially waived your right to remain silent and that your "initiation" of silence at that point can now be considered incriminating evidence to be used against you. It sucks, it's not fair but it's reality.

[WilliamDawg]

Just wondering why it would not be a good answer to tell them you were there getting a massage and just not answer any questions past that. It's not illegal to get a massage. It seems like the decline answer might make them more agitated.

You don't tell because most girls aren't licensed and they'll receive a citation and so will the shop.

[The Wiseacre]

Just wondering why it would not be a good answer to tell them you were there getting a massage and just not answer any questions past that. It's not illegal to get a massage. It seems like the decline answer might make them more agitated.

Fear of LE is exactly what allows them to conduct improper search and seizure. They are already agitated and nervous when they do a raid because there is a lot of uncertainty for the events that might transpire. You can calmly ask them if you are being detained. If they say yes then they have to Miranda you. If they don't Miranda you, then whose side do you think you are on? This isn't a traffic stop.

You are under no obligation to compromise your constitutional rights. You can tell your significant other or bros that you were "just there for a massage. " No one in LE deserves an answer unless your lawyer is present.

[Parkway91]

If police encounter "customers" during a raid or license check, they will ask you all sorts of intrusive questions. They have no probable cause or evidence at this point so they're relying entirely on YOU to provide it to them by answering these questions. Unfortunately, some monger will answer them not realizing he's only hanging himself.

Remember General Order #1: Don't talk to police! Simply say, "I respectfully decline to answer without my attorney" and then STFU.

Just wondering why it would not be a good answer to tell them you were there getting a massage and just not answer any questions past that. It's not illegal to get a massage. It seems like the decline answer might make them more agitated.

[JackMehauf]

"(Roswell police chief) Conroy said the department is also going after those customers who knowingly participate in illegal acts."

So how do they determine who "knowingly participates"? Seems like there would have to be some targeted, intrusive surveillance or very general discriminatory profiling.

If police encounter "customers" during a raid or license check, they will ask you all sorts of intrusive questions. They have no probable cause or evidence at this point so they're relying entirely on YOU to provide it to them by answering these questions. Unfortunately, some monger will answer them not realizing he's only hanging himself.

Remember General Order #1: Don't talk to police! Simply say, "I respectfully decline to answer without my attorney" and then STFU.

[Rolly10]

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/nor...DXRCWK7OHZGV4/

"(Roswell police chief) Conroy said the department is also going after those customers who knowingly participate in illegal acts."

So how do they determine who "knowingly participates"? Seems like there would have to be some targeted, intrusive surveillance or very general discriminatory profiling.

[MunchMacoochie]

" Police said they rescued nearly two dozen young women POSSIBLY involved in human trafficking. ".

Basically they're here to save them whether they need it or not.

GTFOH.

(Joke) Also, where have these young women been? Usually it's old ladies isn't it‽ what did they do with the old ones? (/Joke).

If they were actually taking the high road and rescuing women from trafficking, then great. But the lovely lady I banged yesterday owns a home in a better neighborhood than mine and drives a Lexus. Her kid graduated from GA Tech.

I've never gotten a trafficking vibe at a Camp. Kamps otoh can seem a little dodgeyer.

[ScotchYoke]

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/nor...DXRCWK7OHZGV4/

" Police said they rescued nearly two dozen young women POSSIBLY involved in human trafficking. ".

Basically they're here to save them whether they need it or not.

GTFOH.

(Joke) Also, where have these young women been? Usually it's old ladies isn't it‽ what did they do with the old ones? (/Joke).

[Poshir]

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/nor...DXRCWK7OHZGV4/

[JackMehauf]

Something to think about if you use AT&T as your cell phone provider:

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/secret-...ions-americans

[Wizard22]

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/cow...icial-arrested

First of all, that poor guy probably had a terrible Thanksgiving yesterday.

But how the hell is an undercover posing as a working girl, contributing to a human trafficking investigation. Are they running an ad that says "come have sex with a trafficked female" to see who bites?

Even their own press releases make no sense.

Wiz.