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  1. #1269

    Looks Like a Webcam Operation.

    Quote Originally Posted by AsFanDan  [View Original Post]
    I was scrolling thru City X Guide and saw this ad for a new AMP. When I saw the photos the first thing that came to mind was that it was a honey trap or sting.

    https://cityxguide.com/escorts/asian...33729-20241201
    Looking at the info in the link you provided there is no business name, no address, and the contact info says "random webcam". This doesn't appear to be a real spa, but please let me know if I'm, missing something.

  2. #1268

    Newly Opened Asian Spa. Honey Trap?

    I was scrolling thru City X Guide and saw this ad for a new AMP. When I saw the photos the first thing that came to mind was that it was a honey trap or sting.

    https://cityxguide.com/escorts/asian...33729-20241201

  3. #1267
    Quote Originally Posted by SevenFigga  [View Original Post]
    Coming in for business. Is this place safe?
    I've been many times. Used to see Ivy but don't think she works there anymore, if she still does highly recommend you see her.

  4. #1266

    Ok

    Quote Originally Posted by AsFanDan  [View Original Post]
    As safe as any storefront operation.
    I checked it out. Nice looking girl, but service was not what I was going for. YMMV.

  5. #1265

    Reliable Jade

    New poster. Visited Jade 3 weeks ago and was very pleased. For. 8+. 4 I get a great massage that almost puts me to sleep and a very sensual HE. Nothing more offered but sometimes reliable and consistent is all you need.

  6. #1264

    Massage First

    Quote Originally Posted by SevenFigga  [View Original Post]
    Stopped by and got Hannah. She claimed it was her 1st day. Small, very small rack, but great body. Probably late 40's early 50's. Massaged for 3 minutes then wanted to get down to business. CBJ, Mish, spoon, dog, cowgirl. Good dream. Shaved, but sloppy shave job. Regardless, worth a visit.
    Cool, we both got to see her on her 1st day, a week+ apart!

    She wanted to do the "fun" first and then massage with me, as well. Same thing with the new girls at Sun. I've just started telling them No, massage first, then fun. None have refused so far. But I have to admit, I never get more than 15 min into the massage before I'm the one starting the fun.

    I've also gotten in the habit of giving new girls direction during the TS, as well.

    One advantage of poor eyesight is that once I take my glasses off all the girls look younger and prettier.

  7. #1263

    Final Touch

    Quote Originally Posted by SevenFigga  [View Original Post]
    Coming in for business. Is this place safe?
    As safe as any storefront operation.

  8. #1262

    Japan sauna.

    Stopped by and got Hannah. She claimed it was her 1st day. Small, very small rack, but great body. Probably late 40's early 50's. Massaged for 3 minutes then wanted to get down to business. CBJ, Mish, spoon, dog, cowgirl. Good dream. Shaved, but sloppy shave job. Regardless, worth a visit.

  9. #1261

    Final touch

    Coming in for business. Is this place safe?

  10. #1260

    Japan Sauna - Hannah

    Had a session scheduled for yesterday morning, but she cancelled, so I was scrambling for an alternative. Tried Sun first, but Kimberly wasn't there and I didn't want to deal with a different mama-san, so I decided to try Japan Sauna again. Called ahead to confirm availability and was able to walk right in. As far as I could determine, I was the only client there at that time. I drew Hannah, (Korean, 5'5", slender, late 30's or early thirties, shoulder length medium brunette hair, large A / small B naturals, cute butt, has pretty decent English and did talk once I started the conversation.

    TS was pretty good. She took her time, was very thorough and did nice teasing once I made it clear I enjoyed that. Back in the room she gave me a 10-15 minute back rub, before having me flip. Standard AMP formula, till I finished with her riding me ACG. What made this session different was the level of her enthusiasm. Not claiming I rocked her world like it had never been rocked before, but she made it seem like I had, without the blatant fake adoration that you often get at an AMP, especially the first time with an AMP girl. This was easily my best session at Japan Sauna.

    Penny & Sharon at Sun are still better, but I haven't seen either for a couple of months. Until they return, Hannah seems to be a more than adequate substitute.

  11. #1259

    Recon

    Hello Gentlemen:

    I'm going to be in your area on vacation soon looking for Asian BJ NUDE FUN any one have suggestions? Mainly around Anna Maria Is, Bradenton or Sarasota. Fell free to PM me.

  12. #1258

    Posted on the St Pete site. Interesting and thought I would share.

    Don't feel horrible for the providers. The human trafficking allegations are almost certainly a sham. That is just not how the Asian massage business works. I used to date a spa girl for a long time and got an inside look, not just at her spa but at many spas all over the country. These women have a very wide network of friends, both workers and owners, and it is not a human trafficking network.

    The girls usually do live in the spas, but not because they are sex slaves or poor. They live in the spas because they travel around to work, and you guys know this is true! How often do you hear that "so-and-so is on vacation" or "so-and-so go New York"? The girls work 7 days a week for a few months and then they rotate out. And they actually are on vacation. They take a break for a couple of weeks or a month and then return or go to another spa. Why get a place to live or a set of wheels if you're only going to be in a city for a few months? Doesn't make sense. Live in the spa, maximize your earnings. Sleep, work, money, sleep, work, money, sleep, work, money, vacation. Lather, rinse, repeat.

    I think there is some human trafficking in this business, but it's pretty damn rare, and I don't think it's happening in Tampa Bay and I definitely think the Martin county trafficking accusations are a sham. (I have very good reasons to think this that I can't share here.) Remember, all these women talk on WeChat all over the country. News travels fast. If a mamasan decided to keep women as slaves, people would know right away. It's just not how it's done.

    The girls aren't found through some human trafficking ring. They put an ad on a website and someone answers it. They talk on WeChat, often on video. Then the girl flies in, gets picked up at the airport, and goes to work. I saw this play out dozens of times. It was always friendly and normal. No one arrived in chains in the back of a van. They flew in dressed well, went to dinner with us, and then off to work.

    The door fee is usually $80. It varies from place to place, but the girls get a cut of that, usually $30, and the owner gets $50. Whatever tips the girl gets are hers to keep. The usual handjob tip is $40 and most girls see about 4 guys per day. So if they work seven days a week for three months, the haul is $25,200. Popular girls who do more will make a LOT more than this. These girls aren't poor maltreated sex slaves. Most of them make more than you probably do. I met lots of them through my girlfriend. They all had the latest iPhone Xs, expensive purses and shoes, the older ones had kids in college which they paid, all of that. These girls aren't poor, they're rich. They look poor to you because they choose to live a different way. You see them in their little spa outfits, not dressed to the nines to go out on the town. Does it make sense to anyone that a trafficked sex slave would have an iPhone X? I've been on mass shopping trips to the mall with these girls, and they have blackbelts in shopping with your monger money.

    That leads me to something else. When I was on the inside, the girls would always laugh about guys who thought they would rescue them from being poor spa girls. They would mock the guy for probably having "low money" as they put it. These girls make piles of cash and most expect the lifestyle that goes with it. If you want to date one of these girls, and especially if you don't want her to work anymore, you'd best be prepared to make north of $200,000 per year, because she will expect you to keep her gravy train rolling. (I'll bet you'd need $300,000+ to date Momo at Han River. My guess is that she makes $800 per day at a minimum. A three-month stint for her is at least $70,000.).

    The other thing to take note of is that the mamasan is sometimes not the owner. Sometimes, the masseuse you think is just a worker owns the place and the mamasan is her aunt or some other relative. You'll never know who owns the spa you're in because they'll never tell you unless you really get inside like I did. (And when I found out, I was very, very surprised. All that time I thought one person owned it when it turned out it was the person I least suspected.) Also, the person who owns it on paper may not be the "real" owner. Spas change hands all the time informally without any change in official paperwork. The owner-on-paper may have owned the place you're at 5 years ago and is long gone to another city and another spa.

    Human trafficking is a terrible thing. It does happen. But it's not happening at your typical spa. What is happening is that anti-prostitution activists are using fake human trafficking accusations as a screen to try to get the spas closed. Bloviating loud-mouthed sheriffs are spewing slander against these people. It really angers me. Don't help them perpetuate these lies!

  13. #1257
    Quote Originally Posted by AsFanDan  [View Original Post]
    Was it Misha? I had her the last time I was there and had pretty much the same experience. I told Kimberley I was not happy.
    I did not get her name. Kimberly didn't tell me, the attendant didn't offer it, I didn't ask.

    I will ask next time for the interest of this forum, although I don't think you will know who you are getting at Sun until you get into the room.

  14. #1256
    Quote Originally Posted by Jokester1  [View Original Post]
    You should have had her give you a massage after. I've had that pulled on me twice in the last 10 years or so, and I just insisted on staying and getting my full hour. What are they going to do, call the police? Though, another time, a girl I knew very well offered to refund half the tip and house fee because one of her big tip clients had just come in "he love me, give very big tip!" I told her to keep the tip (we'd already done the real fun part) if she would do something special for me the next time that she had always been afraid to do before. Deal done. She got her big tip, her big tipping client got what he wanted, and the next visit she tried what I wanted--and she was fine with doing it every time I visited thereafter. She eventually went back to China and I hope the shop she wanted to open is doing well.
    If I knew Kimberly gave a super massage, I might have stayed. Might.

  15. #1255

    Hongxiang Spa

    Just a note to my brothers in Sarasota. Emily, my ATF from Orlando is at this spa for March. She is very pretty 9. 5/10 and mid twenties (really!) Super sweet girl with a great attitude. Seniors can PM me. Don't miss out.

    SBB.

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