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Originally Posted by
PervNerd48
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Let's start with the obvious- of COURSE we all don't want to tolerate or condone acts of pedophilia. No sane human being wants to live in a world when children are harmed.
The problem is that many law enforcement efforts aimed at "stopping pedophiles" do nothing of the sort, and actually hurt others.
The best example is the SESTA / FOSTA laws of 2017, a set of laws so bad that they were clearly a bipartisan effort. I can't think of another law that you can blame both Donald Trump and Kamala Harris on. (I'm not trying to start a Trump or Biden flame war. I'm just pointing out that Harris co-sponsored the bill and Trump signed it.).
This law made it legal for state prosecutors to prosecute online providers who hosted sites that promoted prostitution, under the guise of "helping the children" and supposedly stopping sex trafficking. It did neither.
What SESTA / FOSTA did was make this hobby far more dangerous for sex workers and clients alike. By eliminating most websites where adult sex workers could advertise their consensual services, those providers now are lumped into advertising in the same place as the rip-off scammers and the drug addicts who pretend to want to sell you sex but really want to steal your money. We lost a lot of 1st Amendment protections because of this law.
Did it make it easier to catch pedophiles? Nope. DOJ testified that the law made it harder to stop sex trafficking.
If law enforcement really wants to stop pedophilia, they need to shut down the organization responsible for more heinous crimes towards children than anyone else. But unfortunately, law enforcement turns a blind eye towards Catholic priests.
Here's a great article about the problems of SESTA / FOSTA:
https://decriminalizesex.work/advoca...s-sesta-fosta/.
I agree with your analysis of SESTA / FOSTA. I am also of the opinion that if we decriminalized prostitution it would allow consenting adults to engage in sex work in a safer business environment and might actually reduce sex trafficking.
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Geez
Originally Posted by
PervNerd48
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Let's start with the obvious- of COURSE we all don't want to tolerate or condone acts of pedophilia. No sane human being wants to live in a world when children are harmed.
The problem is that many law enforcement efforts aimed at "stopping pedophiles" do nothing of the sort, and actually hurt others.
The best example is the SESTA / FOSTA laws of 2017, a set of laws so bad that they were clearly a bipartisan effort. I can't think of another law that you can blame both Donald Trump and Kamala Harris on. (I'm not trying to start a Trump or Biden flame war. I'm just pointing out that Harris co-sponsored the bill and Trump signed it.).
This law made it legal for state prosecutors to prosecute online providers who hosted sites that promoted prostitution, under the guise of "helping the children" and supposedly stopping sex trafficking. It did neither.
What SESTA / FOSTA did was make this hobby far more dangerous for sex workers and clients alike. By eliminating most websites where adult sex workers could advertise their consensual services, those providers now are lumped into advertising in the same place as the rip-off scammers and the drug addicts who pretend to want to sell you sex but really want to steal your money. We lost a lot of 1st Amendment protections because of this law.
Did it make it easier to catch pedophiles? Nope. DOJ testified that the law made it harder to stop sex trafficking.
If law enforcement really wants to stop pedophilia, they need to shut down the organization responsible for more heinous crimes towards children than anyone else. But unfortunately, law enforcement turns a blind eye towards Catholic priests.
Here's a great article about the problems of SESTA / FOSTA:
https://decriminalizesex.work/advoca...s-sesta-fosta/.
You and your logic and actual science.
The opioid pushers and Catholic diocese seem to be filing for bankruptcy at breakneck speed. At least SCOTUS kicked back the blanket immunity on the opioid front for the family.
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Originally Posted by
RedTalon
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If you can't tell the age, you shouldn't contact. Also, you don't want pedo's off the streets? They are hitting both sides, supply and demand. I personally think they should run these stings more.
Let's start with the obvious- of COURSE we all don't want to tolerate or condone acts of pedophilia. No sane human being wants to live in a world when children are harmed.
The problem is that many law enforcement efforts aimed at "stopping pedophiles" do nothing of the sort, and actually hurt others.
The best example is the SESTA / FOSTA laws of 2017, a set of laws so bad that they were clearly a bipartisan effort. I can't think of another law that you can blame both Donald Trump and Kamala Harris on. (I'm not trying to start a Trump or Biden flame war. I'm just pointing out that Harris co-sponsored the bill and Trump signed it.).
This law made it legal for state prosecutors to prosecute online providers who hosted sites that promoted prostitution, under the guise of "helping the children" and supposedly stopping sex trafficking. It did neither.
What SESTA / FOSTA did was make this hobby far more dangerous for sex workers and clients alike. By eliminating most websites where adult sex workers could advertise their consensual services, those providers now are lumped into advertising in the same place as the rip-off scammers and the drug addicts who pretend to want to sell you sex but really want to steal your money. We lost a lot of 1st Amendment protections because of this law.
Did it make it easier to catch pedophiles? Nope. DOJ testified that the law made it harder to stop sex trafficking.
If law enforcement really wants to stop pedophilia, they need to shut down the organization responsible for more heinous crimes towards children than anyone else. But unfortunately, law enforcement turns a blind eye towards Catholic priests.
Here's a great article about the problems of SESTA / FOSTA: https://decriminalizesex.work/advoca...s-sesta-fosta/.
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Sure
Originally Posted by
RedTalon
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If you can't tell the age, you shouldn't contact. Also, you don't want pedo's off the streets? They are hitting both sides, supply and demand. I personally think they should run these stings more.
If they they are doing intentionally target children absolutely, however, what I am saying is it's a waste of time and money for very little results.
They were supposed to be after Human Traffickers, and they are just attempting to cover there absolute failure by arresting these guys and apparently a couple of girls who likely will be back out after easy money in a month.
They do the same with drugs, they go after the users instead of hitting the sources, useless waste of time and our money.
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What?
Originally Posted by
SeamanTimmy
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So they put out bait, I like to assume she has to tell them she is a minor to make that stick however, they did accomplish basically nothing but hit the customers instead of the actual problems which is bad people exploiting children. If someone is trafficking kids, those should be the target as there will always be customers and now days its hard to tell the age of kids as the hormones in the food and the way they dress make them look older.
However here in Jax if it looks hot then its likely either a sting or a dude.
If you can't tell the age, you shouldn't contact. Also, you don't want pedo's off the streets? They are hitting both sides, supply and demand. I personally think they should run these stings more.
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Nosey Neighbors
Originally Posted by
FlaWill
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There was an arrest of a 50 yo, 5'7", 130# Asian female at the San Jose Serenity Spa on August 23rd. Wondering which one it was? Next court date Sept 13th.
I bet it was a woman from a neighboring business who complained. Although she likely didn't realize she was picking on an old woman.
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So they really did not accomplish anything
Originally Posted by
NflMongerv2
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Yep, I heard the follow up story that arrests were made of men soliciting sex from a 13 or 14 year old girl. The Sheriff also announced they are working with other agencies to address human trafficking of younger kids. Wouldn't at all be surprised if AMPs made it on that list sooner than later. Head on a swivel gents!!
So they put out bait, I like to assume she has to tell them she is a minor to make that stick however, they did accomplish basically nothing but hit the customers instead of the actual problems which is bad people exploiting children. If someone is trafficking kids, those should be the target as there will always be customers and now days its hard to tell the age of kids as the hormones in the food and the way they dress make them look older.
However here in Jax if it looks hot then its likely either a sting or a dude.
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Bust at Serenity Spa. San Jose
There was an arrest of a 50 yo, 5'7", 130# Asian female at the San Jose Serenity Spa on August 23rd. Wondering which one it was? Next court date Sept 13th.
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Bust
One of our old friends (Kylie) from Airport Road got wrapped up in this! Not surprised one bit!
https://backpagegals.com/escorts/fem...nville-8373901
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Here we go
https://www.firstcoastnews.com/artic...4-f2316c8699c9
I've noticed these busts locally usually occur early Aug.
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Originally Posted by
NflMongerv2
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Yep, I heard the follow up story that arrests were made of men soliciting sex from a 13 or 14 year old girl. The Sheriff also announced they are working with other agencies to address human trafficking of younger kids. Wouldn't at all be surprised if AMPs made it on that list sooner than later. Head on a swivel gents!!
Yep here is the news report. They not only going after people trying to engage with minors but they arrested several Mongers and Providers as well. I think I'm just going to stick with the sugar baby search fore now on, after all that's what I really want anyway is just one nice girl I can spend some money on for companionship and whatever else pokes up.
https://www.wokv.com/news/crime-and-...BCA6LDF7RDHTE/
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Same
Originally Posted by
PoonPleaser
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I just heard on the radio WOKV that the Naval Criminal Investigative Service and Florida District Attorney's office is scheduled to make some major announcement today. Sounds like they are doing here what they did in Delaware.
Yep, I heard the follow up story that arrests were made of men soliciting sex from a 13 or 14 year old girl. The Sheriff also announced they are working with other agencies to address human trafficking of younger kids. Wouldn't at all be surprised if AMPs made it on that list sooner than later. Head on a swivel gents!!
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Originally Posted by
KinkyJack1972
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You guys need to do your homework a simple google of the telephone number shows that the exact number was used in deleware 12/11/22 the same exact date they had a sting operation posting as a 14 year old girl in deleware. You are welcome.
https://skipthegames.com/posts/wilmi...m/653933628091.
https://www.dailylocal.com/2022/12/14/6-men-arrested-in-sex-sting-in-delaware-county-including-media-and-upper-darby-residents-2/
I just heard on the radio WOKV that the Naval Criminal Investigative Service and Florida District Attorney's office is scheduled to make some major announcement today. Sounds like they are doing here what they did in Delaware.
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Kilograms
Originally Posted by
KinkyJack1972
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You guys need to do your homework a simple google of the telephone number shows that the exact number was used in deleware 12/11/22 the same exact date they had a sting operation posting as a 14 year old girl in deleware. You are welcome.
https://skipthegames.com/posts/wilmi...m/653933628091.
https://www.dailylocal.com/2022/12/14/6-men-arrested-in-sex-sting-in-delaware-county-including-media-and-upper-darby-residents-2/
As much as I'm a fan of science, if an ad has a chick's weight in kilograms in this country, it's about 99% likely to be fake, in my experience.
Unfortunately, I don't have any way to figure out the difference between helping out an actual underage girl get out of her situation vs getting caught in a sting.
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Do your homework
You guys need to do your homework a simple google of the telephone number shows that the exact number was used in deleware 12/11/22 the same exact date they had a sting operation posting as a 14 year old girl in deleware. You are welcome. https://skipthegames.com/posts/wilmi...m/653933628091.
https://www.dailylocal.com/2022/12/14/6-men-arrested-in-sex-sting-in-delaware-county-including-media-and-upper-darby-residents-2/