It seems that there has been an increase in mongers getting ripped off or robbed in Daytona lately. So I'the thought I'the write a bit about some of the things that I do to lessen the odds of becoming a victim. What I will write is what I do everytime I dream with a provider. 38 providers later and I've yet to have a problem. I don't have much time and may forget some things or may have not thought of some things. So let me know what you think. I'm interested in what other mongers do for security or if they have any security tips for the forum.
This is not about having sex or making love. This is about tactical fucking. LOL.
What you need:
1) A burn phone:
They are cheap and worth it. This will help keep your true I'd a secret. The more they know about you the higher the odds of harassment and extortion.
2) A gun and CCW permit:
Always carry your weapon when seeing these girls. Just because you're committing a misdemeanor doesn't mean you have to give up your natural right to defend yourself or your legal right to bear arms. Keep the weapon on you when answering the door then keep it with in reach while doing the deed. (You don't need your CCW permit to carry a concealed weapon in a home or motel) (Castle doctrine applies in your motel room just as if it were your home).
Where it should go down:
In a motel room that you got for the night. Always make the provider come to you. This puts so much in your favor. It's worth the money to lessen the chance of being robbed or becoming a victim of a cash and dash. Once you're the victim you lose so much more then just your hard earned money.
Prep work / Intel:
1) RTFF! There's so much knowledge and intel on here.
2) Check the phone number. Google "escort phone search" with the number. This lets me know what cities they've been in etc. To help establish their credibility and to see if it's a scam. Then go to Facebook and search the number. A lot of times you will get their Facebook page. That could lead to their real name, arrest record and so on.
3) Check the pictures in the ad using Google images and TinEye etc. Live escort reviews is also a good site to check out pics and phone numbers all linked together.
Phone conversation:
Now you've picked out the provider, obtained a motel room and there were no major red flags found when gathering intel. Here are two basic rules to use when calling her on your burn phone.
1) Never give your real name.
2) Never talk about sex and if they do, they are a liability or a cop.
Secure the room and prepare yourself:
You may need a good place to put your weapon after the provider arrives and you've secured the door. Now's the time to find it!
1) Make sure your screen is locked on your phone and requires a pin to unlock it. (Burn phone or not) Be sure to erase the browser history on the phone too! (Just incase LE gets their hands on it).
2) Only have the amount of money that was agreed upon for the dream on you or in the room. Also keep the debit cards and credit cards at home. (I just have my license, CCW permit and cash on me when having a dream).
She has arrived:
You should try to keep your weapon out of sight. Just keep it in your waistband when answering the door then when the pants come off just toss the shirt over them and the gun and keep it all close to you.
You should secure the door behind her once she comes in. Lock every lock on the door. This means multiple steps to get the door open which will take more time. This combined with never letting her out of your sight helps to prevent any cash and dash attempts.
Now just do what comes natural. Cop checks, pay before or pay after. It's all up to you. The stage has been set, with so much more in your favor (then if you went to an incall) it should be easier to relax.
These were some very simple and basic tips that are worth the extra time, money and effort to help keep from becoming a victim.
Last but not least; don't ever trust these girls, give them your real name or tell them what you do for a living. This is a transaction and mongers will always be tricks in their eyes, no matter what they say or how sweet they seem. Also never be intimidated by a provider or their management. If push comes to shove stand your ground. By any means.
Something that popped up in the o town board. IF ever you get to experience a bad dream, don't be intimidated by any threat of the provider exposing any of your info. If you followed the above your info is not at risk, but still you may feel it is safer to give in. Do not! The rules here forbid posting personal info, and A2 is good at catching this, otherwise hit the report post button, and he will see it.
And of course the rule that should be a law of Monger Physics: 'He who recklessly thinks with little head, ends up getting the big one handed to him, along with his arse, on a platter'.
It seems that there has been an increase in mongers getting ripped off or robbed in Daytona lately. So I'the thought I'the write a bit about some of the things that I do to lessen the odds of becoming a victim. What I will write is what I do everytime I dream with a provider. 38 providers later and I've yet to have a problem. I don't have much time and may forget some things or may have not thought of some things. So let me know what you think. I'm interested in what other mongers do for security or if they have any security tips for the forum.
This is not about having sex or making love. This is about tactical fucking. LOL.
What you need:
1) A burn phone:
They are cheap and worth it. This will help keep your true I'd a secret. The more they know about you the higher the odds of harassment and extortion.
2) A gun and CCW permit:
Always carry your weapon when seeing these girls. Just because you're committing a misdemeanor doesn't mean you have to give up your natural right to defend yourself or your legal right to bear arms. Keep the weapon on you when answering the door then keep it with in reach while doing the deed. (You don't need your CCW permit to carry a concealed weapon in a home or motel) (Castle doctrine applies in your motel room just as if it were your home).
Where it should go down:
In a motel room that you got for the night. Always make the provider come to you. This puts so much in your favor. It's worth the money to lessen the chance of being robbed or becoming a victim of a cash and dash. Once you're the victim you lose so much more then just your hard earned money.
Prep work / Intel:
1) RTFF! There's so much knowledge and intel on here.
2) Check the phone number. Google "escort phone search" with the number. This lets me know what cities they've been in etc. To help establish their credibility and to see if it's a scam. Then go to Facebook and search the number. A lot of times you will get their Facebook page. That could lead to their real name, arrest record and so on.
3) Check the pictures in the ad using Google images and TinEye etc. Live escort reviews is also a good site to check out pics and phone numbers all linked together.
Phone conversation:
Now you've picked out the provider, obtained a motel room and there were no major red flags found when gathering intel. Here are two basic rules to use when calling her on your burn phone.
1) Never give your real name.
2) Never talk about sex and if they do, they are a liability or a cop.
Secure the room and prepare yourself:
You may need a good place to put your weapon after the provider arrives and you've secured the door. Now's the time to find it!
1) Make sure your screen is locked on your phone and requires a pin to unlock it. (Burn phone or not) Be sure to erase the browser history on the phone too! (Just incase LE gets their hands on it).
2) Only have the amount of money that was agreed upon for the dream on you or in the room. Also keep the debit cards and credit cards at home. (I just have my license, CCW permit and cash on me when having a dream).
She has arrived:
You should try to keep your weapon out of sight. Just keep it in your waistband when answering the door then when the pants come off just toss the shirt over them and the gun and keep it all close to you.
You should secure the door behind her once she comes in. Lock every lock on the door. This means multiple steps to get the door open which will take more time. This combined with never letting her out of your sight helps to prevent any cash and dash attempts.
Now just do what comes natural. Cop checks, pay before or pay after. It's all up to you. The stage has been set, with so much more in your favor (then if you went to an incall) it should be easier to relax.
These were some very simple and basic tips that are worth the extra time, money and effort to help keep from becoming a victim.
Last but not least; don't ever trust these girls, give them your real name or tell them what you do for a living. This is a transaction and mongers will always be tricks in their eyes, no matter what they say or how sweet they seem. Also never be intimidated by a provider or their management. If push comes to shove stand your ground. By any means.
It seems that there has been an increase in mongers getting ripped off or robbed in Daytona lately. So I'the thought I'the write a bit about some of the things that I do to lessen the odds of becoming a victim. What I will write is what I do everytime I dream with a provider. 38 providers later and I've yet to have a problem. I don't have much time and may forget some things or may have not thought of some things. So let me know what you think. I'm interested in what other mongers do for security or if they have any security tips for the forum.
This is not about having sex or making love. This is about tactical fucking. LOL.
What you need:
1) A burn phone:
They are cheap and worth it. This will help keep your true I'd a secret. The more they know about you the higher the odds of harassment and extortion.
2) A gun and CCW permit:
Always carry your weapon when seeing these girls. Just because you're committing a misdemeanor doesn't mean you have to give up your natural right to defend yourself or your legal right to bear arms. Keep the weapon on you when answering the door then keep it with in reach while doing the deed. (You don't need your CCW permit to carry a concealed weapon in a home or motel) (Castle doctrine applies in your motel room just as if it were your home).
Where it should go down:
In a motel room that you got for the night. Always make the provider come to you. This puts so much in your favor. It's worth the money to lessen the chance of being robbed or becoming a victim of a cash and dash. Once you're the victim you lose so much more then just your hard earned money.
Prep work / Intel:
1) RTFF! There's so much knowledge and intel on here.
2) Check the phone number. Google "escort phone search" with the number. This lets me know what cities they've been in etc. To help establish their credibility and to see if it's a scam. Then go to Facebook and search the number. A lot of times you will get their Facebook page. That could lead to their real name, arrest record and so on.
3) Check the pictures in the ad using Google images and TinEye etc. Live escort reviews is also a good site to check out pics and phone numbers all linked together.
Phone conversation:
Now you've picked out the provider, obtained a motel room and there were no major red flags found when gathering intel. Here are two basic rules to use when calling her on your burn phone.
1) Never give your real name.
2) Never talk about sex and if they do, they are a liability or a cop.
Secure the room and prepare yourself:
You may need a good place to put your weapon after the provider arrives and you've secured the door. Now's the time to find it!
1) Make sure your screen is locked on your phone and requires a pin to unlock it. (Burn phone or not) Be sure to erase the browser history on the phone too! (Just incase LE gets their hands on it).
2) Only have the amount of money that was agreed upon for the dream on you or in the room. Also keep the debit cards and credit cards at home. (I just have my license, CCW permit and cash on me when having a dream).
She has arrived:
You should try to keep your weapon out of sight. Just keep it in your waistband when answering the door then when the pants come off just toss the shirt over them and the gun and keep it all close to you.
You should secure the door behind her once she comes in. Lock every lock on the door. This means multiple steps to get the door open which will take more time. This combined with never letting her out of your sight helps to prevent any cash and dash attempts.
Now just do what comes natural. Cop checks, pay before or pay after. It's all up to you. The stage has been set, with so much more in your favor (then if you went to an incall) it should be easier to relax.
These were some very simple and basic tips that are worth the extra time, money and effort to help keep from becoming a victim.
Last but not least; don't ever trust these girls, give them your real name or tell them what you do for a living. This is a transaction and mongers will always be tricks in their eyes, no matter what they say or how sweet they seem. Also never be intimidated by a provider or their management. If push comes to shove stand your ground. By any means.
It seems that there has been an increase in mongers getting ripped off or robbed in Daytona lately. So I'the thought I'the write a bit about some of the things that I do to lessen the odds of becoming a victim. What I will write is what I do everytime I dream with a provider. 38 providers later and I've yet to have a problem. I don't have much time and may forget some things or may have not thought of some things. So let me know what you think. I'm interested in what other mongers do for security or if they have any security tips for the forum.
This is not about having sex or making love. This is about tactical fucking. LOL.
What you need:
1) A burn phone:
They are cheap and worth it. This will help keep your true I'd a secret. The more they know about you the higher the odds of harassment and extortion.
2) A gun and CCW permit:
Always carry your weapon when seeing these girls. Just because you're committing a misdemeanor doesn't mean you have to give up your natural right to defend yourself or your legal right to bear arms. Keep the weapon on you when answering the door then keep it with in reach while doing the deed. (You don't need your CCW permit to carry a concealed weapon in a home or motel) (Castle doctrine applies in your motel room just as if it were your home).
Where it should go down:
In a motel room that you got for the night. Always make the provider come to you. This puts so much in your favor. It's worth the money to lessen the chance of being robbed or becoming a victim of a cash and dash. Once you're the victim you lose so much more then just your hard earned money.
Prep work / Intel:
1) RTFF! There's so much knowledge and intel on here.
2) Check the phone number. Google "escort phone search" with the number. This lets me know what cities they've been in etc. To help establish their credibility and to see if it's a scam. Then go to Facebook and search the number. A lot of times you will get their Facebook page. That could lead to their real name, arrest record and so on.
3) Check the pictures in the ad using Google images and TinEye etc. Live escort reviews is also a good site to check out pics and phone numbers all linked together.
Phone conversation:
Now you've picked out the provider, obtained a motel room and there were no major red flags found when gathering intel. Here are two basic rules to use when calling her on your burn phone.
1) Never give your real name.
2) Never talk about sex and if they do, they are a liability or a cop.
Secure the room and prepare yourself:
You may need a good place to put your weapon after the provider arrives and you've secured the door. Now's the time to find it!
1) Make sure your screen is locked on your phone and requires a pin to unlock it. (Burn phone or not) Be sure to erase the browser history on the phone too! (Just incase LE gets their hands on it).
2) Only have the amount of money that was agreed upon for the dream on you or in the room. Also keep the debit cards and credit cards at home. (I just have my license, CCW permit and cash on me when having a dream).
She has arrived:
You should try to keep your weapon out of sight. Just keep it in your waistband when answering the door then when the pants come off just toss the shirt over them and the gun and keep it all close to you.
You should secure the door behind her once she comes in. Lock every lock on the door. This means multiple steps to get the door open which will take more time. This combined with never letting her out of your sight helps to prevent any cash and dash attempts.
Now just do what comes natural. Cop checks, pay before or pay after. It's all up to you. The stage has been set, with so much more in your favor (then if you went to an incall) it should be easier to relax.
These were some very simple and basic tips that are worth the extra time, money and effort to help keep from becoming a victim.
Last but not least; don't ever trust these girls, give them your real name or tell them what you do for a living. This is a transaction and mongers will always be tricks in their eyes, no matter what they say or how sweet they seem. Also never be intimidated by a provider or their management. If push comes to shove stand your ground. By any means.
I would also suggest that before she even come to the room let her know that once she's in your room, she's not leaving with your money until the session is up. Period. And once she's in the room, her phone goes on silent. Be firm but polite, let her know who is in control. And if you have a burner smartphone, use a countdown app and prop the phone up so its in clear view of both parties. Oh and always be prepared with raincoats, latex and non latex. How many ripoffs start with.. "oh I forgot the condoms in the car, let me go get them".
It seems that there has been an increase in mongers getting ripped off or robbed in Daytona lately. So I'the thought I'the write a bit about some of the things that I do to lessen the odds of becoming a victim. What I will write is what I do everytime I dream with a provider. 38 providers later and I've yet to have a problem. I don't have much time and may forget some things or may have not thought of some things. So let me know what you think. I'm interested in what other mongers do for security or if they have any security tips for the forum.
This is not about having sex or making love. This is about tactical fucking. LOL.
What you need:
1) A burn phone:
They are cheap and worth it. This will help keep your true I'd a secret. The more they know about you the higher the odds of harassment and extortion.
2) A gun and CCW permit:
Always carry your weapon when seeing these girls. Just because you're committing a misdemeanor doesn't mean you have to give up your natural right to defend yourself or your legal right to bear arms. Keep the weapon on you when answering the door then keep it with in reach while doing the deed. (You don't need your CCW permit to carry a concealed weapon in a home or motel) (Castle doctrine applies in your motel room just as if it were your home).
Where it should go down:
In a motel room that you got for the night. Always make the provider come to you. This puts so much in your favor. It's worth the money to lessen the chance of being robbed or becoming a victim of a cash and dash. Once you're the victim you lose so much more then just your hard earned money.
Prep work / Intel:
1) RTFF! There's so much knowledge and intel on here.
2) Check the phone number. Google "escort phone search" with the number. This lets me know what cities they've been in etc. To help establish their credibility and to see if it's a scam. Then go to Facebook and search the number. A lot of times you will get their Facebook page. That could lead to their real name, arrest record and so on.
3) Check the pictures in the ad using Google images and TinEye etc. Live escort reviews is also a good site to check out pics and phone numbers all linked together.
Phone conversation:
Now you've picked out the provider, obtained a motel room and there were no major red flags found when gathering intel. Here are two basic rules to use when calling her on your burn phone.
1) Never give your real name.
2) Never talk about sex and if they do, they are a liability or a cop.
Secure the room and prepare yourself:
You may need a good place to put your weapon after the provider arrives and you've secured the door. Now's the time to find it!
1) Make sure your screen is locked on your phone and requires a pin to unlock it. (Burn phone or not) Be sure to erase the browser history on the phone too! (Just incase LE gets their hands on it).
2) Only have the amount of money that was agreed upon for the dream on you or in the room. Also keep the debit cards and credit cards at home. (I just have my license, CCW permit and cash on me when having a dream).
She has arrived:
You should try to keep your weapon out of sight. Just keep it in your waistband when answering the door then when the pants come off just toss the shirt over them and the gun and keep it all close to you.
You should secure the door behind her once she comes in. Lock every lock on the door. This means multiple steps to get the door open which will take more time. This combined with never letting her out of your sight helps to prevent any cash and dash attempts.
Now just do what comes natural. Cop checks, pay before or pay after. It's all up to you. The stage has been set, with so much more in your favor (then if you went to an incall) it should be easier to relax.
These were some very simple and basic tips that are worth the extra time, money and effort to help keep from becoming a victim.
Last but not least; don't ever trust these girls, give them your real name or tell them what you do for a living. This is a transaction and mongers will always be tricks in their eyes, no matter what they say or how sweet they seem. Also never be intimidated by a provider or their management. If push comes to shove stand your ground. By any means.
Ok gents, I am posting this here as it will get everyone's attention. There are two old ripoff artists, and cash and dash pros who disappear and reappear every couple of years, close to this date. First warning comes from the resurgence of their profiles on other sites, followed by BP ads. So far these two have already updated their status, and they are bad news.
I will start with the lesser of two evils. Jaycee - she used to get lukewarm reviews at first, and these just went downhill. Digits start with 786-564- * HEr oics showed a blonde, with tattoos, pierced lips, and other body art. Kind of gave you a bad girl vibe. Do not be fooled, as the pics were from when she started, close to perhaps 4 or 5 years ago. Weight settled in, and so did Mr Manager. She was upsell, upsell, upsell all the way. BBBJ extra, body touch extra, more than one yoga position extra. Cash also had a tendency to gain a life of its own and walk out of your pockets. I did not have any encounters with manager, but she did mention the bf angry at her and that is why she needs to upsell. Manager, duh! As for my incredible, and amazing walking cash, well I did miss it, but a ten is hardly something I will go back to cry about, rather I deducted it as a reminder to not see her again. Avoid.
The worse of all my experiences. Bella - 386-216-0144. Full digits as this one is one dangerous lady. Rather than to make all of you go back on my posts, or revisits the plethora of pm's regarding her, I will give you a rundown: BAd seedy place (back then in Sanford), butch gf who made the medicine runs, unkempt room, unkempt body, stink everywhere. She was a dead fish, with some be. O. Coming from the Starkist cannery, and to top it all off, I lost an extra. 6, taken from my pockets. Note: Only idiot to blame is me, period. I did all of the worst rookie mistakes in one morning! It can happen to all of us so please be alert and avoid her. She has a reserved suite at the graybar hotel, and other terrible issues.
Be safe!
She is working at lollipops now got the # was offered to she was sexy and a very good table dance glad I held off on the to order.
Ok gents, I am posting this here as it will get everyone's attention. There are two old ripoff artists, and cash and dash pros who disappear and reappear every couple of years, close to this date. First warning comes from the resurgence of their profiles on other sites, followed by BP ads. So far these two have already updated their status, and they are bad news.
I will start with the lesser of two evils. Jaycee - she used to get lukewarm reviews at first, and these just went downhill. Digits start with 786-564- * HEr oics showed a blonde, with tattoos, pierced lips, and other body art. Kind of gave you a bad girl vibe. Do not be fooled, as the pics were from when she started, close to perhaps 4 or 5 years ago. Weight settled in, and so did Mr Manager. She was upsell, upsell, upsell all the way. BBBJ extra, body touch extra, more than one yoga position extra. Cash also had a tendency to gain a life of its own and walk out of your pockets. I did not have any encounters with manager, but she did mention the bf angry at her and that is why she needs to upsell. Manager, duh! As for my incredible, and amazing walking cash, well I did miss it, but a ten is hardly something I will go back to cry about, rather I deducted it as a reminder to not see her again. Avoid.
The worse of all my experiences. Bella - 386-216-0144. Full digits as this one is one dangerous lady. Rather than to make all of you go back on my posts, or revisits the plethora of pm's regarding her, I will give you a rundown: BAd seedy place (back then in Sanford), butch gf who made the medicine runs, unkempt room, unkempt body, stink everywhere. She was a dead fish, with some be. O. Coming from the Starkist cannery, and to top it all off, I lost an extra. 6, taken from my pockets. Note: Only idiot to blame is me, period. I did all of the worst rookie mistakes in one morning! It can happen to all of us so please be alert and avoid her. She has a reserved suite at the graybar hotel, and other terrible issues.
386 XXX 0543 advert on craigslist "perfect 10". Showed up, at house on juniper. Put gift on dresser, she left to go to washroom, never returned. A few minutes later man came into the house and asked what I was doing there and who invited me. Left with my cash and no further hassle, beware.
THANK YOU FOR THE INFO! I came this close to seeing this * this evening but thanks to you and your intel it saved me $80.00, I'm sorry that you had to get ripped off. I'm going to try to upload a pic she sent me to see if the pic is really her, again thanks.
Be On the Look Out for Felicia. Ohh rilley? Yes really. She a Blonde 5' 3" about 100 lbs. PM me for actuals'. She a dash kinda gal. Kinda nice looking. But straight up thief! She walks the South of the Ridge. Might be traveling with her boyfriend. Ohh rilley? Yes really! Stop acting that way. Why would any dude that cared about his girl let them into this business? IDK rilley I don't.
Be On the Look Out for Felicia. Ohh rilley? Yes really. She a Blonde 5' 3" about 100 lbs. PM me for actuals'. She a dash kinda gal. Kinda nice looking. But straight up thief! She walks the South of the Ridge. Might be traveling with her boyfriend. Ohh rilley? Yes really! Stop acting that way. Why would any dude that cared about his girl let them into this business? IDK rilley I don't.
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