Ripoff Reports

**Lars36** · 01-06-16 21:03

Originally Posted by Potsy [View Original Post]

So you are saying that when mongers are ripped off they should just live and learn and move on? That is just asinine. When you do get these rip off crews they do not stop and over time they get bolder and more violent and want to rob people more. I have heard of countless girls that started with the cash and dash, I have to leave the room and I will be right back. Never to be seen from again, to all the other excuses under the sun to get your money. I can't tell you how many of these girls graduated to straight out robberies. Having either a boyfriend / pimp hiding in the room, apartment, house ect jumping out to take everything you have to a knock on the door where she lets one ,2 or 3 or more guys in, both armed or unarmed, looking to take everything from you, including your wallet, I'd, car and maybe more. And yes I have been victim to the later.

If a provider rips me off, they won the battle but I will win the war. I will call them and tell them straight out what is coming and suggest they leave town. To a girl they all say the same thing, I didn't know, my boyfriend made me do it, they threatened me if I didn't rob you. Its all bullshit.

In my view if these rip off crews and violent thiefs want to do this, I have no problem playing games with them. I will use burner phones and send them to apartments or condos and tell them I am looking for 3 hours at a high donation. They jump on it and say that since its that much they need it up front and have to pay there driver as soon as they get there, basically admitting they are robbing you. Once they get there I tell them I am in a floor or condo that does not even exist and tell them I can see them and waste there time even more as they look for a non existent place.

Why do this? FOR EVERY HOUR I AM WASTING THERE TIME, THEY ARE NOT OUT THERE HARMING, RIPPING OFF OR ROBBING ANOTHER MONGER.

There are some rip off, thiefs and robbers that have left the Orlando area because they were exposed and were not getting away with it so easily anymore. They never knew what out call was real or fake, who was coming for an incall or who was pretending. They moved on to different cities and began to rip off mongers in there new state and city. Others, rarely straightened out there act and just provided a service for a reasonable donation, this is very rare and I would never trust them again.

When a girl rips off mongers, and it is reported by several reputable mongers, or happens to myself or others I know, well its game on. I am one of a group of several mongers, who know each other who do this. Its not just to get even BUT TO HELP PROTECT OTHER MONGERS AND GET THE THIEFS, RIP OFF ARTISTS AND ROBBERS TO MOVE ON TO ANOTHER LOCATION and let them know that we know who they are and they are no longer welcome to rob us here.

I am one of many mongers who believe in this philosophy, I am one of many who do what we can to make the thiefs move to another city or state, other mongers actually got me into doing. This is not intended to have anything to do with providers that have just basic negative reviews, sub par service, flaky ect. Doing this is reserved for the worst of the worst, the straight out rip off artists and thiefs and robbers that are dangerous.

Do what you want but for every hour they are tied up, that's an hour they are not ripping off or harming a monger. For every robber that moves to another city or state to rob mongers is another day, month or year that they are not robbing mongers in Orlando and Daytona.

You may think its silly, but I think its silly to let a thief / robber go on robbing mongers with impunity.

I am right with you on this one!

**Potsy** · 01-06-16 15:10

Originally Posted by CephlapodLove [View Original Post]

I sure hope what is suggested doesn't catch on as it is silly behavior. Why go through life with a "get even" mentality. That's no recipe for success.

If one gets ripped off in a cash & dash situation. Learn from it and use that to motivate you to never fall in that trap. I think we all get ripped off one way or another from time to time. When it happens I kick myself for falling for the scheme and don't take my anger out on some girl. After all most of these girls are doing this out of desperation, they are at the bottom of the barrel. So what good does it do to kick someone when they are down? If I respond the way they do, I drop down to their level. The bottom of the barrel. Post your frustration here and then you have turned a negative into a positive. You have helped others!

Eh, yeah it hurts one's pride to get ripped off. It s*cks, but it happens. Learn from it and become a better monger, not some dangerous azzh*le!

I'm just sayin'.

So you are saying that when mongers are ripped off they should just live and learn and move on? That is just asinine. When you do get these rip off crews they do not stop and over time they get bolder and more violent and want to rob people more. I have heard of countless girls that started with the cash and dash, I have to leave the room and I will be right back. Never to be seen from again, to all the other excuses under the sun to get your money. I can't tell you how many of these girls graduated to straight out robberies. Having either a boyfriend / pimp hiding in the room, apartment, house ect jumping out to take everything you have to a knock on the door where she lets one ,2 or 3 or more guys in, both armed or unarmed, looking to take everything from you, including your wallet, I'd, car and maybe more. And yes I have been victim to the later.

If a provider rips me off, they won the battle but I will win the war. I will call them and tell them straight out what is coming and suggest they leave town. To a girl they all say the same thing, I didn't know, my boyfriend made me do it, they threatened me if I didn't rob you. Its all bullshit.

In my view if these rip off crews and violent thiefs want to do this, I have no problem playing games with them. I will use burner phones and send them to apartments or condos and tell them I am looking for 3 hours at a high donation. They jump on it and say that since its that much they need it up front and have to pay there driver as soon as they get there, basically admitting they are robbing you. Once they get there I tell them I am in a floor or condo that does not even exist and tell them I can see them and waste there time even more as they look for a non existent place.

Why do this? FOR EVERY HOUR I AM WASTING THERE TIME, THEY ARE NOT OUT THERE HARMING, RIPPING OFF OR ROBBING ANOTHER MONGER.

There are some rip off, thiefs and robbers that have left the Orlando area because they were exposed and were not getting away with it so easily anymore. They never knew what out call was real or fake, who was coming for an incall or who was pretending. They moved on to different cities and began to rip off mongers in there new state and city. Others, rarely straightened out there act and just provided a service for a reasonable donation, this is very rare and I would never trust them again.

When a girl rips off mongers, and it is reported by several reputable mongers, or happens to myself or others I know, well its game on. I am one of a group of several mongers, who know each other who do this. Its not just to get even BUT TO HELP PROTECT OTHER MONGERS AND GET THE THIEFS, RIP OFF ARTISTS AND ROBBERS TO MOVE ON TO ANOTHER LOCATION and let them know that we know who they are and they are no longer welcome to rob us here.

I am one of many mongers who believe in this philosophy, I am one of many who do what we can to make the thiefs move to another city or state, other mongers actually got me into doing. This is not intended to have anything to do with providers that have just basic negative reviews, sub par service, flaky ect. Doing this is reserved for the worst of the worst, the straight out rip off artists and thiefs and robbers that are dangerous.

Do what you want but for every hour they are tied up, that's an hour they are not ripping off or harming a monger. For every robber that moves to another city or state to rob mongers is another day, month or year that they are not robbing mongers in Orlando and Daytona.

You may think its silly, but I think its silly to let a thief / robber go on robbing mongers with impunity.

**Cephlapod Love** · 01-06-16 10:54

Originally Posted by Emiller2 [View Original Post]

Hello from Columbus Ohio, been reading your forum as I will be visiting in February for the 500. Anyway we have had a lot of cash and dash and last summer some of the upset mongers after losing their donations started making dates with a few burner phones and then not showing up. This not only cut into the dashes funds but kept them off guard because they never new if anyone was showing up or not. Seem to slow down the problem plus the cash and dashes got plenty of publicity on here to alert newbys and old guys alike. For outcall give them an address of a vacant house. Hehe. Just sayin hope it works down there. Emiller2.

I sure hope what is suggested doesn't catch on as it is silly behavior. Why go through life with a "get even" mentality. That's no recipe for success.

If one gets ripped off in a cash & dash situation. Learn from it and use that to motivate you to never fall in that trap. I think we all get ripped off one way or another from time to time. When it happens I kick myself for falling for the scheme and don't take my anger out on some girl. After all most of these girls are doing this out of desperation, they are at the bottom of the barrel. So what good does it do to kick someone when they are down? If I respond the way they do, I drop down to their level. The bottom of the barrel. Post your frustration here and then you have turned a negative into a positive. You have helped others!

Eh, yeah it hurts one's pride to get ripped off. It s*cks, but it happens. Learn from it and become a better monger, not some dangerous azzh*le!

I'm just sayin'.

**Emiller2** · 01-06-16 09:10

Hello from Columbus Ohio, been reading your forum as I will be visiting in February for the 500. Anyway we have had a lot of cash and dash and last summer some of the upset mongers after losing their donations started making dates with a few burner phones and then not showing up. This not only cut into the dashes funds but kept them off guard because they never new if anyone was showing up or not. Seem to slow down the problem plus the cash and dashes got plenty of publicity on here to alert newbys and old guys alike. For outcall give them an address of a vacant house. Hehe. Just sayin hope it works down there. Emiller2.

**RarinToGo** · 01-05-16 11:29

It's probably rare but it does happen. I know because it has happened to me twice. If you see enough of these providers AND you don't use this valuable resource, you are going to experience theft. For months there have been a pair of petite girls who have been running a well organized INCALL / OUTCALL theft operation that must be very profitable because they are still going strong.

The two girl organized theft crew has a neat & clean incall cash & grab plan. They get a room but put nothing in it. You show up and are greeted by someone who looks similar to the BP ad pictures. There is a small yappy dog in the room. Payment is made up front (which you should NEVER EVER EVER do no matter what the little head says). The dog is such a nuisance that she offers to take it to a friends room. Both she and the dog disappear never to be seen again. This is a scam that works on trusting newbies and stupid mongers who let the little head do their thinking for them. (I'm not a newbie.) I learned my lesson and this sort of thing will never happen to me again.

The other incall scam that cost me involved a BBW whose ads always mention "large nips. " I visited, paid up front, we got undressed. Then before the fun got started the phone rings, she answers and we have to get dressed to allow a visit. No measure of disagreement stops this plan from playing out. Promises to make good are made but the money isn't refunded. The promises are never fulfilled and your money is gone. You don't want to make a ruckus or get into a fight or shoot anyone because that isn't particularly discreet. You don't have many choices. How much risk are you willing to take?

Never pay up front. Never. No matter what she says. No matter what she wants. Never pay up front. Let's face it, all providers are not model citizens. Most have an arrest record. Few are providers because they truly enjoy it. For providers it's mostly about the money. It simply isn't safe to assume that you are going to get what you pay for until you get what you pay for.

This forum has many stories describing how the unscrupulous in this hobby manage to steal money from mongers. You can't trust anyone until you get to know them well, usually after several visits and even then always know where your money is and secure your wallet, if you are foolish enough to bring it with you inside.

It may hurt for a while to walk out when payment upfront is demanded, but you will get over it more easily than losing $150 or more!

I'm sure that the 2 female pukes who are stealing money from newbies and trusting older men will get theirs some day. At least now YOU know how to avoid what happened to me.

1. Never pay upfront.

2. Never carry more money in than you agreed to pay.

3. Never carry your I'd inside.

4. Plan to situate your money so it can't be easily grabbed when you aren't looking.

It's not hard to do these things. Plan ahead to protect yourself and your stuff. Don't believe anything you hear. If things become strange, leave. Immediately and don't look back. There are always more providers. ALWAYS!

If you think it can't or won't happen to you, change your thinking. It's not hard to become their next mark. It's not hard to avoid being a mark.

Hope this helps.

RTG.

P.S. The organized cash and dash providers place ads on BP every day. You can find the same 3 or 4 ads in the "Additional Ads" section. Their ads are always posted at the same time and are always for a provider 23,24 or 25 years old. These are typical:

Are you ready for the time of your life? - 24.

Jessica /110 lbs /5'2/34 see - 23.

*lets have some fun tonight** - 25.

http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEs...-life/12586231

http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEs...5234c/12608572

http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEs...night/12661111

I've included 3 pictures of a young woman who has been identified as "Sammi" on this site. This person's image has been associated with Cash and Grab for over a year. Her image appears in at least one ad every day.

The other cash and grab specialist is a short, dark haired girl who looks innocent enough but is highly skilled as a thief. The name associated with her ads changes from time to time but the pictures are often the same. The other 4 pictures I've included here are NOT the person you will see but the thief is similar in appearance.

Originally Posted by Trewaller [View Original Post]

She also used an address on Kenilworth for her incall (pm me and I will give you the number) I am not sure what her angle on an incall would be as I have never experienced a cash & grab on an incall.

**Trewaller** · 01-02-16 17:10

Originally Posted by Centflaguy [View Original Post]

Anyone got some digits to trade some times it's easier making a street girl a backpage type girl than the bs of a backpage girl wanting to work the streets.

You do realize that this is the ripoff reports section? Secondly; I am not sure I am following your logic. I am sure you are attempting to differentiate between the two but at the end of the day its their economics and has nothing to do with you making one or the other.

**Centflaguy** · 01-02-16 16:10

Anyone got some digits to trade some times it's easier making a street girl a backpage type girl than the bs of a backpage girl wanting to work the streets.

**BoredAtHome99** · 12-30-15 20:25

Originally Posted by Trewaller [View Original Post]

I guess if you do enough outcalls you will experience at least one rip off- http://daytona.backpage.com/WomenSee...ssing/14142208 although the pics are not hers- she is petite 5' 3" 115 lots of tattoos with a white trash rules one on her back / neck area. Lots of tattoos. She is traveling in a large late model American white sedan and is accompanied by a rough looking guy. She sports red framed glasses. As soon as the deal started to go south the big guy started banging on my door yelling about his sister. I didn't lose much but she is clearly a thief. She doesn't post very much and does so in men 4 women and in adult entertainment which I posted looking for info on earlier today. So I clearly TOFTT LOL 386-679-2407- she is petite and really cute / hot in her tight shorts and when you see her you can understand what I was thinking when I saw her. Anyways. I did get her top and bra off before she started trying to figure out how to get out and tits were pretty nice -.

Holy crap, I was texting her a few weeks back. She said she was in the middle of moving from reed canal area to holy hill. I thought: moving = sweating = smelly = I don't need it that bad.

**Trewaller** · 12-30-15 20:09

Originally Posted by Trewaller [View Original Post]

I guess if you do enough outcalls you will experience at least one rip off- http://daytona.backpage.com/WomenSee...ssing/14142208 although the pics are not hers- she is petite 5' 3" 115 lots of tattoos with a white trash rules one on her back / neck area. Lots of tattoos. She is traveling in a large late model American white sedan and is accompanied by a rough looking guy. She sports red framed glasses. As soon as the deal started to go south the big guy started banging on my door yelling about his sister. I didn't lose much but she is clearly a thief. She doesn't post very much and does so in men 4 women and in adult entertainment which I posted looking for info on earlier today. So I clearly TOFTT LOL 386-679-2407- she is petite and really cute / hot in her tight shorts and when you see her you can understand what I was thinking when I saw her. Anyways. I did get her top and bra off before she started trying to figure out how to get out and tits were pretty nice -.

She also used an address on Kenilworth for her incall (pm me and I will give you the number) I am not sure what her angle on an incall would be as I have never experienced a cash & grab on an incall.

**Trewaller** · 12-30-15 20:04

I guess if you do enough outcalls you will experience at least one rip off- http://daytona.backpage.com/WomenSee...ssing/14142208 although the pics are not hers- she is petite 5' 3" 115 lots of tattoos with a white trash rules one on her back / neck area. Lots of tattoos. She is traveling in a large late model American white sedan and is accompanied by a rough looking guy. She sports red framed glasses. As soon as the deal started to go south the big guy started banging on my door yelling about his sister. I didn't lose much but she is clearly a thief. She doesn't post very much and does so in men 4 women and in adult entertainment which I posted looking for info on earlier today. So I clearly TOFTT LOL 386-679-2407- she is petite and really cute / hot in her tight shorts and when you see her you can understand what I was thinking when I saw her. Anyways. I did get her top and bra off before she started trying to figure out how to get out and tits were pretty nice -.

**MongerJim** · 12-07-15 10:34

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**TighTan80** · 12-06-15 03:21

Originally Posted by RarinToGo [View Original Post]

I recently advised about Alexa who advertises regularly on BP in the Daytona section. She is a known CASH & DASH THIEF. Now she has a new ad using the name LEAH but the ad includes the same phone number used in the Alexa ads.

The pictures are similar and look a great deal like her. Be aware that this thief has stolen from many unsuspecting mongers. She does Incalls and Outcalls. The latest ad says OUTCALLS only. Outcalls are the easiest way for a thief to steal from you.

As has been said in this and other sections of the Daytona forum: DO NOT PAY UP FRONT unless you are willing to expose yourself to theft.

This woman and her accomplice are a scourge on the hobby. We really need to find a way to shut this thief down. For now be aware of the phone number 305-XXX-6781. This is the number of a thief as of November 2015.

She stole from me. Don't let her steal from you.

Latest ad: http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEs...-life/12586231.

Her latest pictures are attached to this note. BEWARE!

RTG.

I've actually known the girl in these pictures, she was a roommate of someone close to me. Can anyone who has met up with her confirm if this "Leah / amanda / devin" is actually for sure the girl in these pictures? I'm curious if she just got her pictures stolen or if she really is living this life now. Never liked her that much tbh.

**RarinToGo** · 12-05-15 21:48

Now that Alexan has been outed for the obvious useless poster he was, I hope the popo will expend some effort to catch the CASH and DASHers that are currently plaguing Daytona area mongers.

**JoeSchmukateli** · 12-05-15 10:31

http://m.news-journalonline.com/arti...titution-sting

**Alexan** · 12-05-15 08:40

Originally Posted by RarinToGo [View Original Post]

I recently advised about Alexa who advertises regularly on BP in the Daytona section. She is a known CASH & DASH THIEF. Now she has a new ad using the name LEAH but the ad includes the same phone number used in the Alexa ads.

The pictures are similar and look a great deal like her. Be aware that this thief has stolen from many unsuspecting mongers. She does Incalls and Outcalls. The latest ad says OUTCALLS only. Outcalls are the easiest way for a thief to steal from you.

As has been said in this and other sections of the Daytona forum: DO NOT PAY UP FRONT unless you are willing to expose yourself to theft.

This woman and her accomplice are a scourge on the hobby. We really need to find a way to shut this thief down. For now be aware of the phone number 305-XXX-6781. This is the number of a thief as of November 2015.

She stole from me. Don't let her steal from you.

Latest ad: http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEs...-life/12586231.

Her latest pictures are attached to this note. BEWARE!

RTG.

Thats amanda / devin.