Ripoff Reports

[JohnnyTheWad]

Brilliant old man, you turned the situation around smartly.

I have been told it is they who set up the rules and the prices. BS! As I said on a prior report, it is WE who have the $, therefore we set the final price, the rules, and the activities. We are the boss here, not the employee. It is a business where we have the natural upper-hand, or as we used to say in the sandbox, the real clear high ground. In the end if we do everything in that mind set, surprises can still happen, however they will be less likely.

Stay safe and vote!

Awesome post. Thanks so much for sharing. JTW.

[JohnnyTheWad]

I don't want to keep this Kellie thing going but I thought I'd share this. I was doing some work around the house and thought I'd send her on a little road trip. I know she lives in Ormond so I sent her to Ponce Inlet. At the time I thought it was very funny, don't care much now but I'm sure it will get some laughs. I'll attach screenshots of most of our text messages. It ends with her messaging me about 15 times telling me how I have to pay for pussy, I have a small dick, I'm a fagot and I like horse dick (etc.) Good times. It felt similar to what a drone strike must feel like. I almost feel bad but fuck that, it's a light punishment for trying to steal.

Again, I just have to tell you THANKS! You made my day LOL.

[JohnnyTheWad]

I don't want to keep this Kellie thing going but I thought I'd share this. I was doing some work around the house and thought I'd send her on a little road trip. I know she lives in Ormond so I sent her to Ponce Inlet. At the time I thought it was very funny, don't care much now but I'm sure it will get some laughs. I'll attach screenshots of most of our text messages. It ends with her messaging me about 15 times telling me how I have to pay for pussy, I have a small dick, I'm a fagot and I like horse dick (etc.) Good times. It felt similar to what a drone strike must feel like. I almost feel bad but fuck that, it's a light punishment for trying to steal.

That was f at cking brilliant brother! LOL.

[NllMarc]

I don't want to keep this Kellie thing going but I thought I'd share this. I was doing some work around the house and thought I'd send her on a little road trip. I know she lives in Ormond so I sent her to Ponce Inlet. At the time I thought it was very funny, don't care much now but I'm sure it will get some laughs. I'll attach screenshots of most of our text messages. It ends with her messaging me about 15 times telling me how I have to pay for pussy, I have a small dick, I'm a fagot and I like horse dick (etc.) Good times. It felt similar to what a drone strike must feel like. I almost feel bad but fuck that, it's a light punishment for trying to steal.

Yo but for real all the pro girls require verify of adres and stuff.

[Camera3]

I don't want to keep this Kellie thing going but I thought I'd share this. I was doing some work around the house and thought I'd send her on a little road trip. I know she lives in Ormond so I sent her to Ponce Inlet. At the time I thought it was very funny, don't care much now but I'm sure it will get some laughs. I'll attach screenshots of most of our text messages. It ends with her messaging me about 15 times telling me how I have to pay for pussy, I have a small dick, I'm a fagot and I like horse dick (etc.) Good times. It felt similar to what a drone strike must feel like. I almost feel bad but fuck that, it's a light punishment for trying to steal.

Holy shit, dude, you made my day!

C3.

[Topherman]

I don't want to keep this Kellie thing going but I thought I'd share this. I was doing some work around the house and thought I'd send her on a little road trip. I know she lives in Ormond so I sent her to Ponce Inlet. At the time I thought it was very funny, don't care much now but I'm sure it will get some laughs. I'll attach screenshots of most of our text messages. It ends with her messaging me about 15 times telling me how I have to pay for pussy, I have a small dick, I'm a fagot and I like horse dick (etc.) Good times. It felt similar to what a drone strike must feel like. I almost feel bad but fuck that, it's a light punishment for trying to steal.

Damn. That shits on spot!

T-Man.

[Green N 386]

Brilliant old man, you turned the situation around smartly.

I have been told it is they who set up the rules and the prices. BS! As I said on a prior report, it is WE who have the $, therefore we set the final price, the rules, and the activities. We are the boss here, not the employee. It is a business where we have the natural upper-hand, or as we used to say in the sandbox, the real clear high ground. In the end if we do everything in that mind set, surprises can still happen, however they will be less likely.

Stay safe and vote!

I don't want to keep this Kellie thing going but I thought I'd share this. I was doing some work around the house and thought I'd send her on a little road trip. I know she lives in Ormond so I sent her to Ponce Inlet. At the time I thought it was very funny, don't care much now but I'm sure it will get some laughs. I'll attach screenshots of most of our text messages. It ends with her messaging me about 15 times telling me how I have to pay for pussy, I have a small dick, I'm a fagot and I like horse dick (etc.) Good times. It felt similar to what a drone strike must feel like. I almost feel bad but fuck that, it's a light punishment for trying to steal.

[WilliamMstrs]

I appreciate the kind words from everyone and it's great to know that your brothers have your back. This should be the norm though. A mongor should never let a girl just walk out with their money and should always put up a fight if it comes to that. I was just PMing Swim999 about this. Try to avoid violence at all costs. That's where rules, intel and prep work comes in but sometimes shit just happens and when it does you should take the fight to them. I know a lot of us are ex-military, have done some martial arts training during their life and workout. (If anyone isn't, they should) I also know the majority of us carry. We will never be respected by any of these girls or their boyfriend / dope boy / pimps. We are all just squares with money (targets on our backs) in their eyes. These people have never done a thing in their lives. They don't know the hardships of finishing and or maintaining a goal, a military program, a school, a marathon or a job. That's why they are so easy to fuck up, they're bullies, pussies and they quit when it gets tough. No one should be intimidated by their tough talk or their stupid clothing and culture. They are drug addicts that lay around all day. They are weak not hard.

Obviously we have much more to lose so confrontation should be avoided as much as possible so rules do help. A couple years ago I wrote a post about security when seeing providers.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...orts&p=2375326#post2375326. Post #18.

Cephlapod Love, this is my first time reading this. Thanks for the link. I like how the rules are ongoing. I think a blend of both ours would cover pretty much everything. I do not mention about never paying first but do practice it. Paying before service is like chumming the water for sharks. The chances of an altercation increase substantially. From now on I won't even put the money in a neutral area within my reach (when a girl suggests it / like with Kellie). It will stay in my pocket at all times.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...s-For-BackPage

Brilliant old man, you turned the situation around smartly.

I have been told it is they who set up the rules and the prices. BS! As I said on a prior report, it is WE who have the $, therefore we set the final price, the rules, and the activities. We are the boss here, not the employee. It is a business where we have the natural upper-hand, or as we used to say in the sandbox, the real clear high ground. In the end if we do everything in that mind set, surprises can still happen, however they will be less likely.

Stay safe and vote!

[Member #5270]

I appreciate the kind words from everyone and it's great to know that your brothers have your back. This should be the norm though. A mongor should never let a girl just walk out with their money and should always put up a fight if it comes to that. I was just PMing Swim999 about this. Try to avoid violence at all costs. That's where rules, intel and prep work comes in but sometimes shit just happens and when it does you should take the fight to them. I know a lot of us are ex-military, have done some martial arts training during their life and workout. (If anyone isn't, they should) I also know the majority of us carry. We will never be respected by any of these girls or their boyfriend / dope boy / pimps. We are all just squares with money (targets on our backs) in their eyes. These people have never done a thing in their lives. They don't know the hardships of finishing and or maintaining a goal, a military program, a school, a marathon or a job. That's why they are so easy to fuck up, they're bullies, pussies and they quit when it gets tough. No one should be intimidated by their tough talk or their stupid clothing and culture. They are drug addicts that lay around all day. They are weak not hard.

Obviously we have much more to lose so confrontation should be avoided as much as possible so rules do help. A couple years ago I wrote a post about security when seeing providers.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...orts&p=2375326#post2375326. Post #18.

Cephlapod Love, this is my first time reading this. Thanks for the link. I like how the rules are ongoing. I think a blend of both ours would cover pretty much everything. I do not mention about never paying first but do practice it. Paying before service is like chumming the water for sharks. The chances of an altercation increase substantially. From now on I won't even put the money in a neutral area within my reach (when a girl suggests it / like with Kellie). It will stay in my pocket at all times.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...s-For-BackPage

Well said Mr Green!

[Green N 386]

As pointed out in Rule #23 Never Pay Up front! While blocking a girl's exit is one way to do things, once she has the money in her hands it belongs to her and you taking it out of her hands is theft or robbery on your part! Some girls are desperate enough and familiar enough with the legal system that getting LE involved is no problem for them. A better approach, as pointed out in Post #11 (techniques for NOT paying up front), is to stay between her and the money at all times. Period. Be firm and point out that she can have the money when the job is done: massage, stripping, reading poetry, washing car windows (whatever you legally contracted her for).

But as OP pointed out once a girl starts with the excuses it is time to cut your losses short and boot her.

The "rules". Not just "rules" but techniques to use to avoid bad situations. Learn here, or learn in the school of hard knocks!

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...s-For-BackPage

My "mission" is to make the ripoff reports sections a barren as possible!

CL.

Mongering looks easy, good, consistently safe mongering is anything but easy!

I appreciate the kind words from everyone and it's great to know that your brothers have your back. This should be the norm though. A mongor should never let a girl just walk out with their money and should always put up a fight if it comes to that. I was just PMing Swim999 about this. Try to avoid violence at all costs. That's where rules, intel and prep work comes in but sometimes shit just happens and when it does you should take the fight to them. I know a lot of us are ex-military, have done some martial arts training during their life and workout. (If anyone isn't, they should) I also know the majority of us carry. We will never be respected by any of these girls or their boyfriend / dope boy / pimps. We are all just squares with money (targets on our backs) in their eyes. These people have never done a thing in their lives. They don't know the hardships of finishing and or maintaining a goal, a military program, a school, a marathon or a job. That's why they are so easy to fuck up, they're bullies, pussies and they quit when it gets tough. No one should be intimidated by their tough talk or their stupid clothing and culture. They are drug addicts that lay around all day. They are weak not hard.

Obviously we have much more to lose so confrontation should be avoided as much as possible so rules do help. A couple years ago I wrote a post about security when seeing providers.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...orts&p=2375326#post2375326. Post #18.

Cephlapod Love, this is my first time reading this. Thanks for the link. I like how the rules are ongoing. I think a blend of both ours would cover pretty much everything. I do not mention about never paying first but do practice it. Paying before service is like chumming the water for sharks. The chances of an altercation increase substantially. From now on I won't even put the money in a neutral area within my reach (when a girl suggests it / like with Kellie). It will stay in my pocket at all times.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...s-For-BackPage

[Cephlapod Love]

Never, ever give the money up front. If they insist, walk out. Once they start that crap it isn't going to get any better. First they want the money for some BS escort drama crap, and it goes downhill from there. Be willing to walk out. That empowers us more than most realize. Yes, I've done it.

Even in the best case, the chick stays and does her thing. Once she has the money, she has no reason to work for it. At that point she is just trying to get you off and on your way as fast as possible. It won't be good service. She will be Jonsing for her candy and complaining about everything under they sun. Like I said, never pay upfront. There is not one good reason to do that and every reason not to.

As pointed out in Rule #23 Never Pay Up front! While blocking a girl's exit is one way to do things, once she has the money in her hands it belongs to her and you taking it out of her hands is theft or robbery on your part! Some girls are desperate enough and familiar enough with the legal system that getting LE involved is no problem for them. A better approach, as pointed out in Post #11 (techniques for NOT paying up front), is to stay between her and the money at all times. Period. Be firm and point out that she can have the money when the job is done: massage, stripping, reading poetry, washing car windows (whatever you legally contracted her for).

But as OP pointed out once a girl starts with the excuses it is time to cut your losses short and boot her.

The "rules". Not just "rules" but techniques to use to avoid bad situations. Learn here, or learn in the school of hard knocks!

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...s-For-BackPage

My "mission" is to make the ripoff reports sections a barren as possible!

CL.

Mongering looks easy, good, consistently safe mongering is anything but easy!

[TRowePrice]

Agreed, you bring up good points about the relationship of motovation and payment. To make it clear; I didn't pay her upfront. I compromised and left it out where either of us could get to it. She was doing an outcall, by the time her dumb ass got there I was buzed and 1 hour past the time I said I was going to get home. This lead me to comromise and put the money in a neutral area. I shouldn't have and the situation would have been avoided. When these cum dumpsters fuck one of us over (or try to) we all need to stick together. I'm thinking about places some ads on BP etc. The last time something like this happened to me, (a couple tried to rob me) they both were fucked up, the girl was transported to the hospital (didn't need to be) (fuck her) the guy was unconcious in the parking lot and I was in handcuffs. Then fellow mongers sent those pieces of shit on wild goose chases for weeks! LOL. I really appreciated that. The girl stopped advertising. Thats why I told this girl it wouldn't end up well (for anyone).

Never be a victim to one of these filthies

I'm always down to support the fellow monger.

Eating chicken by daylight, sending crooks on wild goose hunt by moonlight, I'm the one they call troweprice.

*trump supporter*.

[Green N 386]

Never, ever give the money up front. If they insist, walk out. Once they start that crap it isn't going to get any better. First they want the money for some BS escort drama crap, and it goes downhill from there. Be willing to walk out. That empowers us more than most realize. Yes, I've done it.

Even in the best case, the chick stays and does her thing. Once she has the money, she has no reason to work for it. At that point she is just trying to get you off and on your way as fast as possible. It won't be good service. She will be Jonsing for her candy and complaining about everything under they sun. Like I said, never pay upfront. There is not one good reason to do that and every reason not to.

Agreed, you bring up good points about the relationship of motovation and payment. To make it clear; I didn't pay her upfront. I compromised and left it out where either of us could get to it. She was doing an outcall, by the time her dumb ass got there I was buzed and 1 hour past the time I said I was going to get home. This lead me to comromise and put the money in a neutral area. I shouldn't have and the situation would have been avoided. When these cum dumpsters fuck one of us over (or try to) we all need to stick together. I'm thinking about places some ads on BP etc. The last time something like this happened to me, (a couple tried to rob me) they both were fucked up, the girl was transported to the hospital (didn't need to be) (fuck her) the guy was unconcious in the parking lot and I was in handcuffs. Then fellow mongers sent those pieces of shit on wild goose chases for weeks! LOL. I really appreciated that. The girl stopped advertising. Thats why I told this girl it wouldn't end up well (for anyone).

Never be a victim to one of these filthies

[Chris5]

Kellie is a thief.

I thought that in the past I read some decent reviews about Kellie. So I searched the forum and all I found was 1 or 2 reviews. They were decent but from new guys with just a few posts. So I called her up and we set up a meeting at 8. Long story short; 3 hours of lies and bullshit later, she showed up. First thing that was strange. She insisted that we switch parking spaces. She said she didn't want to be boxed in to a space. The parking lot was almost full and my car was parallel parked. This is a small motel, it was very obvious that no one else would check in. (She wanted a fast get away) She is somewhat intelligent, well spoken and puts on a good front. The only tell in person of drug use was a sunken in face, her over licking of her lips and the facts that she was 3 hours late, was eating a carrot cake and advertises on BP. Upon further research I found that she has many drug offences.

She asked for the money up front. I told her no. There was some minor disagreeing and so I compromised, putting the money on top of a dresser. She then asked for a cop check. I showed her my dick and we kissed a bit. Then in the middle of kissing she said "I have to run out to my car real quick". I asked why and she responded "to get some make up out of my purse" (She was already wearing make up). I told her no problem. She hopped up of the bed and grabbed the money on the dresser. When she turned around I was standing in front of her. I told her that the money stays here, she then argued a bit. I grabbed the money and she wouldn't let it go (for the whole time she was promising that she would be right back). She became very desperate and it was very obvious I fucked up her plan. I then told her to please not do this, it won't end well. She then let go of the money and said "I'll be right back". She walked out the door, got in her car and drove away. LOL. There were many other little lies I caught her in and many other things that made my spidey senses tingle. I currently don't have time to write them all out. PM me for any questions.

She is 100% cash and dash specialist. Avoid her. In my younger monger days I could have seen myself falling for this. She has a good talk game and plays being somewhat square well.

http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEs...-girl/16872323

I loved reading your post! Finally, a brother that refuses to get ripped off right in front of his face!! Going to get makeup? LOL! That's a new one on me! LOL! Grabbed your hard earned cash and tried to simply just leave. Smh! I applaud you for telling her "this will NOT end well for you" Glad you weren't a sucker and just said it ok, keep the cash. We all must keep a strong pimp hand near and dear!

[Swim999]

She tried the same thing I have no problem giving the money up front my issue is when they ask to go get something I know you guys arent as built like I am but I block them straight up.

Never, ever give the money up front. If they insist, walk out. Once they start that crap it isn't going to get any better. First they want the money for some BS escort drama crap, and it goes downhill from there. Be willing to walk out. That empowers us more than most realize. Yes, I've done it.

Even in the best case, the chick stays and does her thing. Once she has the money, she has no reason to work for it. At that point she is just trying to get you off and on your way as fast as possible. It won't be good service. She will be Jonsing for her candy and complaining about everything under they sun. Like I said, never pay upfront. There is not one good reason to do that and every reason not to.