Ripoff Reports

[Joshua Falken]

Would you believe it? Less than 4 months ago and I was grousing about a third of STG ads being fake. Now I pine for the days when STG was only a third fake. I logged on to STG tonight at 11:22 pm and counted 35 of 50 fake ads on the first page. Effing 70% scams!

Fuck you STG with your useless reporting system, non-existant scam filtering, and your fucking reprehensible business model that is clearly profiting by allowing scammers to rip off the hapless or you fucking clowns would put a stop to it.

I would gladly lead a boycott against these STG fusterclucks if I thought it would do an ounce of good. USAGG, please bring back the sister site and put these thieving STG asshats out of business!

End of rant.

It looks like the scammers are coming out of the woodwork to further infest STG with their tantalizing pictures, ridiculous titles, and grammatically-challenged narratives. At one point yesterday I noted that more than a third of Daytona-STG's first 50 ads were fake. When you consider how many legitimate providers post ads in twos and threes, the real percentage of fakes was probably closer to 50 percent. But hey, roaches got to eat too I guess.

If you are new to this fine hobby, new to perusing STG ads, or if you didn't even realize there has been a recent surge in fake ads, you might be their next mark. If this is you, I highly recommend you read the "Spotting the Scam" posts and subsequent commentary from such USASG luminaries as NbWill, NewAgain, and Carlosa, beginning here:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...550&viewfull=1#post4552550.

And if you just can't struggle through those absurdly long posts, these 3 red flags should weed out around 95 percent of the fakes (and perhaps 5 percent of legitimate ads unfortunately) in under 10 seconds.

1. Improbably hot pictures.

2. Generic or non-local location.

[Swim999]

This ***** using really old pics back posting like she's new here. Only thing new is her line of bullshit.

I saw this ***** about 2 years ago, met me at the door with a stopwatch in hand taking the cake for clock watcher. The qv I paid for was so pathetic I might has spent 5 min with her and left. Do yourself a favor don't DO IT.

You never should have had to write this post. One of my fundamental guidelines is to be willing to walk away. If you are met at the door by some hag that doesn't look like the hot chick in the pics, just walk away. Don't get into it or explain anything, just go. And this one had a stopwatch! I've never seen that but the day isn't over. A stopwatch reeks of poor service and potential for officious interference by management. When shit like this goes down, don't think about it, just walk away. Anything that feels off, unsafe or not what you are expecting, walk away. I've done this several times and never regretted it. For me it's easy. The decision has already been made. It's the safest and most empowering thing you can do.

A few fundamental guidelines:

Do your research (RTFF and PM others beforehand) so you make informed decisions.

Your safety is your responsibility.

Everyone doesn't play the same game here. It's your $ and your game. Play and spend how you see fit.

Don't trust anyone.

Understand the reality of who and what you are dealing with.

Be clear and concise in your communication and be on time.

Be professional and well mannered unless provoked.

Never fucking ever pay upfront or give a deposit.

Never ever give personal information. Your real life and this do not cross paths.

Be willing to walk away. Ding, ding, ding!

Don't be an asshole, abusive, a thief or mistreat others. The phenomenon of unintended consequences is cruel. Nobody is immune.

In any dealings with these chicks, never give more than you can walk away from and not have hard feelings about it.

Tell it like it is. Don't embellish or withhold relevant information in your posts on here.

There's much more but that's the quick list.

[NewAgain]

I know them both, and certainly believe one over the other. But hey, it is in my humble opinion only, YMMV and hey, ignore it or not, it is simply my opinion.

Honestly I do not avoid a working girl bc she allegedly stole from another working girl; really? How about we only report girls that rip mongers off bc otherwise we are starting to give more credibility to one hooker over another one -LOL dangerous game there. Here's a scenario. Working girl #1 tells monger that working girl #2 ripped her and would the monger please post a rip off review so guys will avoid her lmao It seems like a good situation for working girl #1 bc maybe she's effectively eliminated the competition by using a monger who tends to post a lot anyway.

[Mongerlicious]

Avoid this one. https://daytona.skipthegames.com/fem...4/084220199425 I just found out she stole her friends saved up money and laptop. She has been spiralling for a while but to stoop to this level. She was hosting together with her friend on Friday, and over the weekend cleaned her our! Avoid her at all stops.

Honestly I do not avoid a working girl bc she allegedly stole from another working girl; really? How about we only report girls that rip mongers off bc otherwise we are starting to give more credibility to one hooker over another one -LOL dangerous game there. Here's a scenario. Working girl #1 tells monger that working girl #2 ripped her and would the monger please post a rip off review so guys will avoid her lmao It seems like a good situation for working girl #1 bc maybe she's effectively eliminated the competition by using a monger who tends to post a lot anyway.

[NewAgain]

Avoid this one. https://daytona.skipthegames.com/fem...4/084220199425 I just found out she stole her friends saved up money and laptop. She has been spiralling for a while but to stoop to this level. She was hosting together with her friend on Friday, and over the weekend cleaned her our! Avoid her at all stops.

[Joshua Falken]

http://daytona.skipthegames.com/fema...y/200471955646

It's really disappointing when you think that you have seen someone enough times and have helped in other ways. Such as making sure her son had a Christmas and then you have to write one these reports. Lizzy asked to borrow some money on may 31st and even though I voiced my reluctance she promised she would pay it back on Wednesday when she got paid. Well Wednesday came and went with no word from her but when I brought it up she got rather pissy and said she would be by tomorrow (Thursday) well that day came and went so I texted and again she got pissy and said Friday night would work. Then changed the time to be much later but it not matter bc she really NEVER had nay intentions of paying back the money. Then I started getting texts from supposed guys basically calling me names and trying to be all bad ass and saying if I really wanted the money they would come and pay it. LOL right. Well that never happened and after I challenged this bad ass to come pay her debt I never head from them / Lizzy again. Anyways. This is on me as I know I broke a cardinal rule. Never loan money to a ***** or a drug addict and especially to both. Lizzy is now a straight up thief so any of you guys that may still be seeing her. You have been warned.

I myself have learned what I already knew so I take the blame for this but Lizzy is not to be trusted -.

I'm sorry to hear that mate. I think most of us have been asked by a provider for a loan, probably many times. When I get that text, I will either ignore it or I'll cease all communication with the lass. It's just easier than telling her I know I won't be paid back, I feel like I'm being taken advantage of, and I know that our next date just got weird.

It's too bad Lizzy didn't just ask if she could earn it, unless it was too much I guess. There are plenty of providers who will reach out and ask clients to come see them when they need funds. I don't mind this at all. I'm happy to help a lass out by donating for services rendered. Deland Crystal employed this strategy to great effect, sending me a "hey, come f*ck me" text whenever she needed cash. And more often than not, I did.

I miss that little sip of firewater.

The trash is fast enough to kill the link. Post it to archive and make this scum infamous. Looks like there is plenty of reviews on this pile of trash so just stay clear obviously she is trying to hide something. Chase another dirt bag out of town!

Whoa, Sunny, way too harsh mate. Lizzy does have many reviews and until Monday, all of them were positive.

She is a person, not scum, trash, or a dirt bag. Yes, she made a mistake, abused Mongerlicious' trust, and owes him an apology and his money back. Can she be trusted? No. Is this unusual in the providerverse? Hell No. That's why there's a cardinal rule in the first place.

I get that you want to support Mongerlicious, but way too harsh.

[Joshua Falken]

Sounds like she ripped you off. Just kidding.

Yeah, posting my Redd report here was an accident. I subsequently reposted it where it belongs in the Escort Reports thread. I also requested several times that it be deleted from Ripoff Reports because it's not fair to Redd/Ginger, who did nothing wrong. I was hoping that Admin would delete it before someone quoted it, thereby forever memorializing an erroneous post in Ripoff Reports. I guess there's no point in deleting it now.

[Zillow]

Sounds like she ripped you off. Just kidding.

So a few minutes after dismissing wee Robi (aka SeexxySlim,
http://archive.ph/ueRQ4) and I'm parked at the WaWa down the street. I pull up STG to see who's looking for business at this hour and Ginger / Redd happens to top the list. "Redd's always dtf" I think to myself. She's not one of my favorites, as her place is trashy and smells of various smokables, but she's a sweet little thing who loves her job, so why not?

http://daytona.skipthegames.com/fema...l/932748337179

http://archive.ph/RvUDM

Fifteen minutes later and I'm mounting the stairs to her Holly Hill inlaw suite. She welcomes me in with a smile, somehow remembering me from our date at her Ridgewood notel a year prior. I don my respirator and take in my dilapidated and smoke-scented surroundings while she bustles about, catching me up on her life's events.

Since this is a qv I don't dawdle, dropping the agreed upon 60 bob onto the nightstand and then dropping trou. Ginger now has the lighting just-so and is selecting soft music on her phone. I lay back on her bed, noting the cigarette burns on her sheets, and watch her with amusement. Now she's digging through a drawer looking for a vibrator and mumbling that she's "been looking forward to getting fucked," her words, not mine. She makes a little squeak of triumph and pulls a buzzing piece of pink plastic from her nightstand. A moment later and she's descending on my bare shaft, gripping it in her right hand while vibrating herself with the left. Minutes of pleasurable head nodding go by as the lassy's moans grow in intensity. "How do you want me baby?" she whispers, pausing her head game to roll on a cover.

I don't even need to think about this one, opting for cowgirl of course. I steeled myself against the excuses I assumed were coming, but the lass just smiled, reaching down to check her moisture level while exclaiming, "I thought so". She decides no lube is necessary and happily climbs aboard. Moments later and Ginger is sensuously rocking while I stare fixedly at junior disappearing and reappearing from behind a trimmed copper hedge. Then the twerking starts and the lass begins to groan in earnest. Finally she's gyrating for all she's worth, encouraged by my own moans and rhythmic taps on her ass. We finally came together, Ginger convulsing and collapsing onto my chest as I ground out every last ounce of pleasure while filling the bag.

A few minutes later and I'm cleaning up with wet wipes as the lass is saving my contact info (a pseudonym of course) on her phone. And so with an exhortation to come back anytime, the wee lass Ginger embraces me in the doorway and sends me off happily into the night.

In the plus column, Ginger / Redd is a friendly, willing, energetic and skillful partner who offers and enjoys good sex at a fair price point. In the minus column are the trashy digs and smokey atmosphere.

So after several challenging, oxygen-deprived encounters, having Ginger put in the work and pound one out of me was the metaphorical breath of fresh air. Not to mention the difference in effort and attitude between Ginger and Robi that night couldn't have been more pronounced. I commend the former to you as a solid return on investment while advising you to give the latter a pass.

Cheers!

[Nudeed]

http://daytona.skipthegames.com/fema...y/200471955646

It's really disappointing when you think that you have seen someone enough times and have helped in other ways. Such as making sure her son had a Christmas and then you have to write one these reports. Lizzy asked to borrow some money on may 31st and even though I voiced my reluctance she promised she would pay it back on Wednesday when she got paid. Well Wednesday came and went with no word from her but when I brought it up she got rather pissy and said she would be by tomorrow (Thursday) well that day came and went so I texted and again she got pissy and said Friday night would work. Then changed the time to be much later but it not matter bc she really NEVER had nay intentions of paying back the money. Then I started getting texts from supposed guys basically calling me names and trying to be all bad ass and saying if I really wanted the money they would come and pay it. LOL right. Well that never happened and after I challenged this bad ass to come pay her debt I never head from them / Lizzy again. Anyways. This is on me as I know I broke a cardinal rule. Never loan money to a ***** or a drug addict and especially to both. Lizzy is now a straight up thief so any of you guys that may still be seeing her. You have been warned.

I myself have learned what I already knew so I take the blame for this but Lizzy is not to be trusted -.

I feel your pain. The link you provided doesn't work though.

[Mongerlicious]

http://daytona.skipthegames.com/fema...y/200471955646

It's really disappointing when you think that you have seen someone enough times and have helped in other ways. Such as making sure her son had a Christmas and then you have to write one these reports. Lizzy asked to borrow some money on may 31st and even though I voiced my reluctance she promised she would pay it back on Wednesday when she got paid. Well Wednesday came and went with no word from her but when I brought it up she got rather pissy and said she would be by tomorrow (Thursday) well that day came and went so I texted and again she got pissy and said Friday night would work. Then changed the time to be much later but it not matter bc she really NEVER had nay intentions of paying back the money. Then I started getting texts from supposed guys basically calling me names and trying to be all bad ass and saying if I really wanted the money they would come and pay it. LOL right. Well that never happened and after I challenged this bad ass to come pay her debt I never head from them / Lizzy again. Anyways. This is on me as I know I broke a cardinal rule. Never loan money to a ***** or a drug addict and especially to both. Lizzy is now a straight up thief so any of you guys that may still be seeing her. You have been warned.

I myself have learned what I already knew so I take the blame for this but Lizzy is not to be trusted -.

[Joshua Falken]

So a few minutes after dismissing wee Robi (aka SeexxySlim, http://archive.ph/ueRQ4) and I'm parked at the WaWa down the street. I pull up STG to see who's looking for business at this hour and Ginger / Redd happens to top the list. "Redd's always dtf" I think to myself. She's not one of my favorites, as her place is trashy and smells of various smokables, but she's a sweet little thing who loves her job, so why not?

http://daytona.skipthegames.com/fema...l/932748337179

http://archive.ph/RvUDM

Fifteen minutes later and I'm mounting the stairs to her Holly Hill inlaw suite. She welcomes me in with a smile, somehow remembering me from our date at her Ridgewood notel a year prior. I don my respirator and take in my dilapidated and smoke-scented surroundings while she bustles about, catching me up on her life's events.

Since this is a qv I don't dawdle, dropping the agreed upon 60 bob onto the nightstand and then dropping trou. Ginger now has the lighting just-so and is selecting soft music on her phone. I lay back on her bed, noting the cigarette burns on her sheets, and watch her with amusement. Now she's digging through a drawer looking for a vibrator and mumbling that she's "been looking forward to getting fucked," her words, not mine. She makes a little squeak of triumph and pulls a buzzing piece of pink plastic from her nightstand. A moment later and she's descending on my bare shaft, gripping it in her right hand while vibrating herself with the left. Minutes of pleasurable head nodding go by as the lassy's moans grow in intensity. "How do you want me baby?" she whispers, pausing her head game to roll on a cover.

I don't even need to think about this one, opting for cowgirl of course. I steeled myself against the excuses I assumed were coming, but the lass just smiled, reaching down to check her moisture level while exclaiming, "I thought so". She decides no lube is necessary and happily climbs aboard. Moments later and Ginger is sensuously rocking while I stare fixedly at junior disappearing and reappearing from behind a trimmed copper hedge. Then the twerking starts and the lass begins to groan in earnest. Finally she's gyrating for all she's worth, encouraged by my own moans and rhythmic taps on her ass. We finally came together, Ginger convulsing and collapsing onto my chest as I ground out every last ounce of pleasure while filling the bag.

A few minutes later and I'm cleaning up with wet wipes as the lass is saving my contact info (a pseudonym of course) on her phone. And so with an exhortation to come back anytime, the wee lass Ginger embraces me in the doorway and sends me off happily into the night.

In the plus column, Ginger / Redd is a friendly, willing, energetic and skillful partner who offers and enjoys good sex at a fair price point. In the minus column are the trashy digs and smokey atmosphere.

So after several challenging, oxygen-deprived encounters, having Ginger put in the work and pound one out of me was the metaphorical breath of fresh air. Not to mention the difference in effort and attitude between Ginger and Robi that night couldn't have been more pronounced. I commend the former to you as a solid return on investment while advising you to give the latter a pass.

Cheers!

[MongerT]

We have no idea who you're writing about. Is there a name, a picture, a link, a quote or anything that can identify her?

Could have sworn I added this but here.

https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tona/50353840/

[RoadWarrior2K]

This ***** using really old pics back posting like she's new here. Only thing new is her line of bullshit.

I saw this ***** about 2 years ago, met me at the door with a stopwatch in hand taking the cake for clock watcher. The qv I paid for was so pathetic I might has spent 5 min with her and left. Do yourself a favor don't DO IT.

We have no idea who you're writing about. Is there a name, a picture, a link, a quote or anything that can identify her?

[MongerT]

This ***** using really old pics back posting like she's new here. Only thing new is her line of bullshit.

I saw this ***** about 2 years ago, met me at the door with a stopwatch in hand taking the cake for clock watcher. The qv I paid for was so pathetic I might has spent 5 min with her and left. Do yourself a favor don't DO IT.

[Ontheprowl88]

Titling your retort shows me that you spent time looking at my other posts, which amuses me. I guess I struck a nerve. I too have over 20 years in this game, actually 28. If you've never had a girl tell you she has this guy who gives her 300 or that guy 500, you haven't been at this as long as you claim. The reason they say those things is because they are trying to get more out of you, or there are idiots out there who do give them those amounts. Saying I am looking out for my wallet is exactly what I'm doing, why wouldn't I? Aren't we all supposed to be frugal spenders and savers? If you listen to what you're arguing, your point is there is nothing wrong with overpaying for the addicts. If that's how you truly feel, go on I guess. Overpay for a 3 or a 4 on a 10 scale and keep driving the prices up.

I have mongered for over 20 years and have never ever had a girl tell me about big donors; now they have told me about the freaks among you guys that pay extra for fetishes LOL but that come with the territory. I tend to think that singular guys that wade in this pool and attempt to berate or ramble at us collectively about keeping donations low are just basically looking out for their own wallets. I mean to try and control donations globally is just insane bc as I have noted previously this forum is but a small fraction of the mongering population so good luck reigning in that significant population lmao Myself I just tend to look at performance and attitude and if they are full on GFE than I am not haggling about a few dollars.