Ripoff Reports

[GenevaMan]

Fellow Mongers, check out SM TruthSeeker's warning of Natalia in the Orlando Forum's Negative Review section:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...=1#post1267596

She's now posting in the Space Cost BP ads:

http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEs...oxo-23/5087056

You've been warned! Stay Away!

Be Safe & Have Fun!

GM

[Dr321]

I've seen a guy posting on BP warning about Alizae, now the past couple days there is another ad with the name jasmine with the same layout and one time this Jasmine girls picture is wearing the same shorts as alizae. Is this a sad attempt at scamming with the same girl?

http://spacecoast.backpage.com/Femal...ess-19/4922202

http://spacecoast.backpage.com/Femal...est-22/4922188

Alizae has changed her name and is now advertising as Porchea.

http://spacecoast.backpage.com/Femal...-me-19/4976596

[Mudslide]

I've seen a guy posting on BP warning about Alizae, now the past couple days there is another ad with the name jasmine with the same layout and one time this Jasmine girls picture is wearing the same shorts as alizae. Is this a sad attempt at scamming with the same girl?

http://spacecoast.backpage.com/Femal...ess-19/4922202

http://spacecoast.backpage.com/Femal...est-22/4922188

They are two different girls, I know them both, both of them are a waste of time!

[Ericson37]

I've seen a guy posting on BP warning about Alizae, now the past couple days there is another ad with the name jasmine with the same layout and one time this Jasmine girls picture is wearing the same shorts as alizae. Is this a sad attempt at scamming with the same girl?

http://spacecoast.backpage.com/Femal...ess-19/4922202

http://spacecoast.backpage.com/Femal...est-22/4922188

[GenevaMan]

I sympathize with genevaman. MANY years ago when I was new to the scene I was staying at a nice hotel in Los Angeles. I called a provider which had really hot pictures and sounded nice over the phone so I invited her to my hotel room. When she showed up it was total bait and switch and not even the same girl on the phone. My only mistake was opening the door to tell her I was not interested. She rushed in and when I asked her to leave with Jackson in hand she refused to leave without the full amount. After she made her threats I gently escorted her out of my room. In my mind, if your going to be an idiot and say stupid shit in my place, you've well over stayed your welcome.

MattManII posted this in the Backpage Advertiser Reviews, but I wanted to make sure its posted here as well:

Alizae Report.

http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEs.dlt-19/4830059

This was posted on the Orlando Ripoff report thread. She posted today back in Cocoa at the fantastic rate of $.50 LOL.

[Member #4120]

I sympathize with genevaman. MANY years ago when I was new to the scene I was staying at a nice hotel in Los Angeles. I called a provider which had really hot pictures and sounded nice over the phone so I invited her to my hotel room. When she showed up it was total bait and switch and not even the same girl on the phone. My only mistake was opening the door to tell her I was not interested. She rushed in and when I asked her to leave with Jackson in hand she refused to leave without the full amount. After she made her threats I gently escorted her out of my room. In my mind, if your going to be an idiot and say stupid shit in my place, you've well over stayed your welcome.

[Member #4120]

I've never had to resort, nor would I ever use, physical violence against a woman. When she grabbed my shirt and tried to pulle me from the door as she was calling her pimps, I took the easy way of just grabbing her phone and tossing it to the other end of the room. So, you are willing to take a woman's word about the events? Why would she try to keep me there if I was insisting on such things with her? Any other provider would have said to please leave right away. No, her story has been "glorified" to make herself to be the victim, and if you have never run into such a woman before, then good for you. Again, don't know what was up with her, but she was as messed up as that filthy room she was in, and my instincts told me to be careful, and when I felt I was being set up, I high-tailed it out. I'm glad you guys have caught her when she's not so messed up, but for me, I'm not taking chances.

Anyone that believes a single word these girls say is being extremely foolish.

[Java Junkie]

If you are uncomfortable or don't like waiting 10 minutes while she texts her pimp or friends, then you should be allowed to cancel and leave. I might have taken some time to discuss it with her while she was texting (and I'm not convinced the guys in the parking lot knew her at all) , but she shouldn't be surprised if you opt to leave, especially if she ignores you and doesn't give you a good explaination.

[GenevaMan]

Copied from Orlando Rip-off Reports.

After having heard from Ivy and her version of events I was hesitant to post anything else on the subject but then Spacemanfl posted his experience of her (same as mine) and what she told him as well in the Brevard section. Which matched exactly what she told me. I've also had a couple of PM's for others, as I mentioned before, about their mixed experiences but overall positive experiences. Nothing close to what Genevaman said he experienced. No sight of managers, up charges, or anything crazy.

Spacemanfl "I had a mixed experience with Ivy the other day and she gave me her side of this story. She said you wanted BBFS and she said she wouldn't do that. She also didn't want any pics or videos taken. There was a big time delay during my appointment but she gave me a discount. Her service was fantastic. She has a FANTASTIC ass and great oral skills. Greek not on the menu. VERY tight. Her friends seem to be her biggest problem. I gave her some advice about how to be successful in the biz so hopefully she will listen to what I said. She has the potential to make a lot of money if she separates herself from her "friends" and works on being a great provider."

She also said you got physical with her and threatened to trash her on local boards if she didn't do what you wanted. Plus some other stuff. From what I have seen you have certainly been busy keeping up your promise with trashing her here and on the Brevard board with 4 very negative posts and on 1 on T E R. Seems to me that an experienced monger like yourself with all your cred would be able to handle whatever your situation was and be inclined to give a 20 yo newbie (not to mention a hot one with a lot of potential) a break after I clearly posted how new she was with some typical flakiness or lack of experience.

If her version is true, and I highly suspect it is, YOU are the dangerous one and the women on this board should be very careful dealing with YOU, and your reviews should be taken with more than a little skepticism. And no, you don't need to "justify yourself to anyone". With all your experience and monger instincts against a 115 lb, inexperienced newbie that tried to "muscle" you and wouldn't provide you with your "special requests" why would you need to justify yourself. Pfft? Yeah right.

"Ivy. Not worth taking the risk!" and "Ivy-A Horrible Nightmare!"

Genevaman you are full of SHIT!

If any of you were thinking about seeing her and you don't see Ivy because of Genvamans experience you are really missing out on something special. I should mention, and I don't know this first hand but she probably does have a handler, but not that I or anyone else I have heard from (except for GM) have seen. And if you don't already know, most young newbies do, that's just how many of them start out. Also, I don't post anywhere but here. Any of you that have seen her and can offer up a real review on T E R and help her overcome her first negative review on that board I am sure she would really appreciate it. If we take care of the good ones and offer up some helpful friendly advise we we will just add to the great ones we already have in our area.

P8

I've never had to resort, nor would I ever use, physical violence against a woman. When she grabbed my shirt and tried to pulle me from the door as she was calling her pimps, I took the easy way of just grabbing her phone and tossing it to the other end of the room. So, you are willing to take a woman's word about the events? Why would she try to keep me there if I was insisting on such things with her? Any other provider would have said to please leave right away. No, her story has been "glorified" to make herself to be the victim, and if you have never run into such a woman before, then good for you. Again, don't know what was up with her, but she was as messed up as that filthy room she was in, and my instincts told me to be careful, and when I felt I was being set up, I high-tailed it out. I'm glad you guys have caught her when she's not so messed up, but for me, I'm not taking chances.

[Member #4166]

Copied from Orlando Rip-off Reports.

After having heard from Ivy and her version of events I was hesitant to post anything else on the subject but then Spacemanfl posted his experience of her (same as mine) and what she told him as well in the Brevard section. Which matched exactly what she told me. I've also had a couple of PM's for others, as I mentioned before, about their mixed experiences but overall positive experiences. Nothing close to what Genevaman said he experienced. No sight of managers, up charges, or anything crazy.

Spacemanfl "I had a mixed experience with Ivy the other day and she gave me her side of this story. She said you wanted BBFS and she said she wouldn't do that. She also didn't want any pics or videos taken. There was a big time delay during my appointment but she gave me a discount. Her service was fantastic. She has a FANTASTIC ass and great oral skills. Greek not on the menu. VERY tight. Her friends seem to be her biggest problem. I gave her some advice about how to be successful in the biz so hopefully she will listen to what I said. She has the potential to make a lot of money if she separates herself from her "friends" and works on being a great provider."

She also said you got physical with her and threatened to trash her on local boards if she didn't do what you wanted. Plus some other stuff. From what I have seen you have certainly been busy keeping up your promise with trashing her here and on the Brevard board with 4 very negative posts and on 1 on T E R. Seems to me that an experienced monger like yourself with all your cred would be able to handle whatever your situation was and be inclined to give a 20 yo newbie (not to mention a hot one with a lot of potential) a break after I clearly posted how new she was with some typical flakiness or lack of experience.

If her version is true, and I highly suspect it is, YOU are the dangerous one and the women on this board should be very careful dealing with YOU, and your reviews should be taken with more than a little skepticism. And no, you don't need to "justify yourself to anyone". With all your experience and monger instincts against a 115 lb, inexperienced newbie that tried to "muscle" you and wouldn't provide you with your "special requests" why would you need to justify yourself. Pfft? Yeah right.

"Ivy. Not worth taking the risk!" and "Ivy-A Horrible Nightmare!"

Genevaman you are full of SHIT!

My instincts told me to be very careful, and when I inquired as to her promises to fulfill my requests, that's when the "up-grades" started happening. I politely told her I'm not interested and started walking towards the door. She immediately runs to the door and asks if I was leaving. I told her that she had kept me over 30 minutes waiting, and then another 5 minutes while she smoked and texted, and now she wanted more, so I wasn't interested. She then states that I had already been there 10 minutes and that I owe her $ for her time. I laughed at her and reached for the door handle, and that's when she says she's calling her pimp and he's going to take care of me. She actually grabbed hold of my shirt to try to hold me, and I just grabbed the phone from her and tossed it to the other end of the room, at which point she had to let go to get it, and I then noticed she had cut a hole in the curtain and pulled it over the door lever. I just ripped it off and was out of there in a flash! I noticed to brawny black men coming towards the parking lot as I drove off, giving them both the finger! Yes, I realized that YMMV, and that Passun8's review of Ivy in the Positive Report section says he had a good experience, but this girl is dangerous! She's got two handlers, and she's brazen enough to try to muscle money from Clients. I've reviewed on several sites for many years, and I don't need to justify myself to anyone. I want all of us to have a safe and fun journey. Mongers, be very careful out there. Ivy is definitely off my list!

If any of you were thinking about seeing her and you don't see Ivy because of Genvamans experience you are really missing out on something special. I should mention, and I don't know this first hand but she probably does have a handler, but not that I or anyone else I have heard from (except for GM) have seen. And if you don't already know, most young newbies do, that's just how many of them start out. Also, I don't post anywhere but here. Any of you that have seen her and can offer up a real review on T E R and help her overcome her first negative review on that board I am sure she would really appreciate it. If we take care of the good ones and offer up some helpful friendly advise we we will just add to the great ones we already have in our area.

P8

[Spokes]

Sounds like you got lucky on your exit. Nobody needs that kind of crap. I had played phone tag with her and gave up. Thanks for the heads up.

Well, after having been away in California for business for the past month, I thought I'd give Ivy a try, since she's right in my own back yard. She answered right away, and she gave me the impression that she was more than willing to give me what I wanted. I arrived at the appointed time, and called, but no answer. After several texts and calls, I was about to leave, and she tells me it will be another 30 minutes. I had taken an extra long lunch break from work to spend an hour with her, and now I was going to have to extend it longer. Finally, she texts me the room number. Yes, when the door opened, I was greeted by a gorgeous hot young woman in nothing but bra and panties, but that was the only good thing to happen! She was holding a cigarrette, and the room reeked of smoke and stale food. It looked like a tornado had hit it, and she had even attempted to make herself up, even though that was one of my requests she agreed to. When she closed the door, I noticed she had somehow wrapped the curtain around the door knob, and she was constantly texting on her phone. Not a good sign! If you have read any of my rip-off reviews on tee eeee are, you'll know that having a Provider constantly texting when she's suppose to be paying attention to you is not a good sign. Furthermore, she actually spend another 5 full minutes just texting on her phone and smoking, without so much as a glance towards me. My instincts told me to be very careful, and when I inquired as to her promises to fulfill my requests, that's when the "up-grades" started happening. I politely told her I'm not interested and started walking towards the door. She immediately runs to the door and asks if I was leaving. I told her that she had kept me over 30 minutes waiting, and then another 5 minutes while she smoked and texted, and now she wanted more, so I wasn't interested. She then states that I had already been there 10 minutes and that I owe her $ for her time. I laughed at her and reached for the door handle, and that's when she says she's calling her pimp and he's going to take care of me. She actually grabbed hold of my shirt to try to hold me, and I just grabbed the phone from her and tossed it to the other end of the room, at which point she had to let go to get it, and I then noticed she had cut a hole in the curtain and pulled it over the door lever. I just ripped it off and was out of there in a flash! I noticed to brawny black men coming towards the parking lot as I drove off, giving them both the finger! Yes, I realized that YMMV, and that Passun8's review in the Orlando Positive Reports says he probably had a good experience, but this girl is dangerous! She's got two handlers, and she's brazen enough to try to muscle money from Clients. I've been on several sites for many years, and I don't need to justify myself to anyone. I want all of us to have a safe and fun journey. Mongers, be very careful out there. Ivy is definitely off my list!

http://spacecoast.backpage.com/Femal...ime-21/4781946

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[GenevaMan]

Well, after having been away in California for business for the past month, I thought I'd give Ivy a try, since she's right in my own back yard. She answered right away, and she gave me the impression that she was more than willing to give me what I wanted. I arrived at the appointed time, and called, but no answer. After several texts and calls, I was about to leave, and she tells me it will be another 30 minutes. I had taken an extra long lunch break from work to spend an hour with her, and now I was going to have to extend it longer. Finally, she texts me the room number. Yes, when the door opened, I was greeted by a gorgeous hot young woman in nothing but bra and panties, but that was the only good thing to happen! She was holding a cigarrette, and the room reeked of smoke and stale food. It looked like a tornado had hit it, and she had even attempted to make herself up, even though that was one of my requests she agreed to. When she closed the door, I noticed she had somehow wrapped the curtain around the door knob, and she was constantly texting on her phone. Not a good sign! If you have read any of my rip-off reviews on tee eeee are, you'll know that having a Provider constantly texting when she's suppose to be paying attention to you is not a good sign. Furthermore, she actually spend another 5 full minutes just texting on her phone and smoking, without so much as a glance towards me. My instincts told me to be very careful, and when I inquired as to her promises to fulfill my requests, that's when the "up-grades" started happening. I politely told her I'm not interested and started walking towards the door. She immediately runs to the door and asks if I was leaving. I told her that she had kept me over 30 minutes waiting, and then another 5 minutes while she smoked and texted, and now she wanted more, so I wasn't interested. She then states that I had already been there 10 minutes and that I owe her $ for her time. I laughed at her and reached for the door handle, and that's when she says she's calling her pimp and he's going to take care of me. She actually grabbed hold of my shirt to try to hold me, and I just grabbed the phone from her and tossed it to the other end of the room, at which point she had to let go to get it, and I then noticed she had cut a hole in the curtain and pulled it over the door lever. I just ripped it off and was out of there in a flash! I noticed to brawny black men coming towards the parking lot as I drove off, giving them both the finger! Yes, I realized that YMMV, and that Passun8's review in the Orlando Positive Reports says he probably had a good experience, but this girl is dangerous! She's got two handlers, and she's brazen enough to try to muscle money from Clients. I've been on several sites for many years, and I don't need to justify myself to anyone. I want all of us to have a safe and fun journey. Mongers, be very careful out there. Ivy is definitely off my list!

http://spacecoast.backpage.com/Femal...ime-21/4781946

[Big Dog2]

Cat,

A friend of mine was relating a story to me that several weeks ago he picked up a WSW in Aroura & rt 1 area and had a good time with her good oral skills. About late 40's short, thin, long hair down to her ass got digits and left. From the description it sounded like a woman that calls herself Cat short for Cathrine her real name is Katrina.

She calls him last night on his monger phone and he makes a date with her. When he arrives to pick her up at the apartments by Eau Gally. She comes out and asked for the money up front (here it comes he gives her. 40.) She leaves her phone and purse in the car and says don't answer her phone if it rings and goes between apts and disappears.

He waits for about 20 minutes and then check's the phone it's a fake and purse was filled with junk. He say's lesson learned.

I have been with her before but no trouble. I checked the number with him and my phone the same. Called it this morning number not in service. So be carefull guy's at least he did not get hurt just lost some cash.

Bd2

[Admin]

Hey guys I think we need a new thread for easy and fast reporting of girls with multiple adds multiply numbers who are trying to rip guys off.

I will start it off with Kayla she has been ripping guys off for a long time and continues to get away with it.

She has many many adds with FAKE pictures changes her name and age and most of the adds do have the same number or a newer number as she catches on to being marked as a ripoff.

So her are a few of her post on STG.

https://space-coast.skipthegames.com...t/110382438241

https://space-coast.skipthegames.com...e/279437007899

https://space-coast.skipthegames.com...y/042471906359

https://space-coast.skipthegames.com...u/763915042074

https://space-coast.skipthegames.com...t/566042504381

https://space-coast.skipthegames.com...e/984048653589

https://space-coast.skipthegames.com...r/342085567318

https://space-coast.skipthegames.com...e/879173651658

https://space-coast.skipthegames.com...r/661510596036

https://space-coast.skipthegames.com...t/995250346436

These post on skip the games are all of the same girl notice most of the adds have the same phone number.

Different pics on some of them and different age but its the same POS girl.

If you get ripped off by this girl do yourself a favor and don't say anything keep it to yourself ya phucking DUMBASS.