Traveling through the area and texted a few providers. None got back to me so I reached out to Diamond. Got a quick reply and set up the date. Got to the room and it was Magic. Not the same as her pics with a new haircut but I'm there what the heck. Say I'm only interested in BBBJ, she says 60,20 more to CIM. So I pay the 20 more. She was amazing. Top 5 BJs of all time for me. As I'm about to nut she buries me in her throat. I'm going back tomorrow for the 2 girl special. Great rates and she was fun, I hope Diamond delivers as well.
I have found I can tell a lot about a provider in the way she handles a negotiation. Rather find out she's high strung or goes off quickly through text / phone than in person. Just saying.
This. Sometimes I'll negotiate just to see how she reacts. If she flies off the handle at the first sign that things aren't going to go exactly her way it's a sign to me that the entire session is going to be dictated by her, and any suggestion that I might want something differently is likely to be met with something that, at best, is going to kill the mood, if not end the session entirely.
It's a vibe thing for me, whether I do or don't negotiate and whether I do or don't move forward after an initial discussion, negotiation or not.
I end up parting ways much more often than I strike a deal and follow through, but so far that's worked out pretty well for me.
It's supply & demand. She clearly knows her market value. If there were 10 x the same options in the area, no one would pay those prices.
Partly that and partly the fact that most guys won't, can't or don't know how to negotiate prices.
You never know until you try and as long as one is willing to accept "no" as an answer, what is there to lose? Sometimes one is pleasantly surprised.
I have found I can tell a lot about a provider in the way she handles a negotiation. Rather find out she's high strung or goes off quickly through text / phone than in person. Just saying.
I would never pay that kind of money. I don't care how good she looks. Besides, good looking doesn't always guarantee she's good. I'm not knocking the guys who can afford that. There are some guys out here that have the money like that and got it like that. I'm not one of them. 200 and 300 is probably chump change to the guys who are paying these rates. They're making it harder on the ones who can't because a lot of these women will charge these ridiculous rates because they know someone will pay those rates.
It's supply & demand. She clearly knows her market value. If there were 10 x the same options in the area, no one would pay those prices.
If that is her in the pics, then I can see why the high rate. Pretty good body compared to what else is in that area.
I would never pay that kind of money. I don't care how good she looks. Besides, good looking doesn't always guarantee she's good. I'm not knocking the guys who can afford that. There are some guys out here that have the money like that and got it like that. I'm not one of them. 200 and 300 is probably chump change to the guys who are paying these rates. They're making it harder on the ones who can't because a lot of these women will charge these ridiculous rates because they know someone will pay those rates.
I talked to this one last night. Goes by Emily. She's doing outcalls and Carplay right now. I told her that I would keep her info and check her ads periodically to see if she's doing incalls. The deal breaker for me was when I asked her what the prices are for hh and hour. She said 200 for hh and 300 for hour. No thanks. Before she gave me the prices, she had the nerve to complain that two clients didn't show up. Which is why she doesn't have a room and willing to do Carplay. 200 hh and 300 hour? She's lost her mind, like most of them out here now! If I ever pay that kind of money, you can best believe it will be way more than an hour!
She used to post in the eastern shore threads. I'm pretty sure she's a no go. Whenever I see Milford, seafood, Bridgeville I avoid.
I talked to this one last night. Goes by Emily. She's doing outcalls and Carplay right now. I told her that I would keep her info and check her ads periodically to see if she's doing incalls. The deal breaker for me was when I asked her what the prices are for hh and hour. She said 200 for hh and 300 for hour. No thanks. Before she gave me the prices, she had the nerve to complain that two clients didn't show up. Which is why she doesn't have a room and willing to do Carplay. 200 hh and 300 hour? She's lost her mind, like most of them out here now! If I ever pay that kind of money, you can best believe it will be way more than an hour!
I just talked to this one. She quoted 140 hh 240 hr but said she would do 100 hh and 200 hr. I told her that would work. I normally don't do that far South to get up with someone. But she is interesting and sexy as all outdoors! Does anyone have any history with Melody? Is she worth the ride?
I just talked to this one. She quoted 140 hh 240 hr but said she would do 100 hh and 200 hr. I told her that would work. I normally don't do that far South to get up with someone. But she is interesting and sexy as all outdoors! Does anyone have any history with Melody? Is she worth the ride?
Has anyone met with this provider? I thought about putting this under the massage thread, but it doesn't seem like a massage as much as a provider offering a massage. It honestly looks TGTBT but I'm hopeful someone here can tell me otherwise.
Right there in is an assumption that I do not agree with! It is NOT "alright and acceptable" for providers to request pics from mongers. No one I have read around here thinks that is a good idea. But I don't run the providers, nor act for all mongers so I guess there are plenty of dudes willing to send pics of their face, pics with them holding their ID next to their face and pics of their ID to "prove" they are "real" to some anonymous poster on some website or SM.
To me that is the dumbest thing one could do, especially IF one has an SO and more so if they have kids.
Years ago there was a site called "Exposing Johns" (Google it) where they posed as providers and got dudes to email them, stating sex for money, giving real names, pics, etc. Turns out they provided a website where your info, illegal requests and pics could be found through a Google search. Of course, for a small fee (extortion) they would remove your data. But shoot, there are other vigilanti groups out there trying to effect the hobbying game. Plus who knows what tactics some of these ant-trafficking task forces are doing?
So if you want your family, neighbors, employer, future employer and future relationships to know you are a wh*rem*nger, then by all means send pics as "verification" to anonymous people (providers) on the web!
But what you said next, I do agree with:
YES! We should be able to and often it is a great idea to ask the provider for an additional picture! I have never said one can't or shouldn't ask for pics. What is the issue is the type of picture, not whether we can / should ask for a picture. I prefer something that is pornographic in nature, I. E a picture of her vagina.
But where we apparently differ in our view points is that I don't think a revealing pic ..... Not a totally nude pic. But something more revealing*** is sufficient proof that the poster is NOT LE! LE CAN and might use pictures that are "more revealing," so getting a more revealing picture tells the recipient nothing. Not sure LE can send pics that are porno. But who knows. Now it might be a case where they do it although they are not suppose to, and at that point one has to hire an attorney.
So be clear in what I am saying. A "more revealing" picture is a poor way to do DD and those that rely on that as a way to 'stay safe' are taking chances that could get them jammed up.
Build up some "Spidey Senses" and learn to trust them. Don't be afraid to walk away when the Spidey Senses are tingling. As the old saying goes, [color=green] better safe than sorry.
For starters, many of these providers have requested pics from mongers. So it's alright and acceptable for them to request pics from mongers? So why shouldn't we be able to do the same. Especially if we get a strange vibe!? As good as her pics look, combined with the very reasonable prices she's quoting, there are two things going on for sure. One: She doesn't even look close to the pics she's posting. That's a real good possibility. Or two: She's undercover five o, and looking to jam someone up! She doesn't post very often, and doesn't really look like your typical provider. No one else on here has any input or info on this provider. If they do, they're keeping it to themselves. So I have to be careful and do what I feel will be in my best interest. Nobody else is going to look out for me, so I have to.
As of now, I haven't asked her for a pic. It really doesn't look like I'm going to even pursue her anyway. Something just doesn't sit right with me about her. And nobody else knows anything? Hit her up for yourself and let me know what you think!
Right there in red is an assumption that I do not agree with! It is NOT "alright and acceptable" for providers to request pics from mongers. No one I have read around here thinks that is a good idea. But I don't run the providers, nor act for all mongers so I guess there are plenty of dudes willing to send pics of their face, pics with them holding their ID next to their face and pics of their ID to "prove" they are "real" to some anonymous poster on some website or SM.
To me that is the dumbest thing one could do, especially IF one has an SO and more so if they have kids.
Years ago there was a site called "Exposing Johns" (Google it) where they posed as providers and got dudes to email them, stating sex for money, giving real names, pics, etc. Turns out they provided a website where your info, illegal requests and pics could be found through a Google search. Of course, for a small fee (extortion) they would remove your data. But shoot, there are other vigilanti groups out there trying to effect the hobbying game. Plus who knows what tactics some of these ant-trafficking task forces are doing?
So if you want your family, neighbors, employer, future employer and future relationships to know you are a wh*rem*nger, then by all means send pics as "verification" to anonymous people (providers) on the web!
So why shouldn't we be able to do the same. Especially if we get a strange vibe!?
YES! We should be able to and often it is a great idea to ask the provider for an additional picture! I have never said one can't or shouldn't ask for pics. What is the issue is the type of picture, not whether we can / should ask for a picture. I prefer something that is pornographic in nature, I. E a picture of her vagina.
But where we apparently differ in our view points is that I don't think a revealing pic ..... Not a totally nude pic. But something more revealing*** is sufficient proof that the poster is NOT LE! LE CAN and might use pictures that are "more revealing," so getting a more revealing picture tells the recipient nothing. Not sure LE can send pics that are porno. But who knows. Now it might be a case where they do it although they are not suppose to, and at that point one has to hire an attorney.
So be clear in what I am saying. A "more revealing" picture is a poor way to do DD and those that rely on that as a way to 'stay safe' are taking chances that could get them jammed up.
Build up some "Spidey Senses" and learn to trust them. Don't be afraid to walk away when the Spidey Senses are tingling. As the old saying goes, better safe than sorry.
I just hit her up, trying to get more info. I told her that she doesn't dress like a typical provider and how long she's been in the game. She going to have to send me a revealing pic before I bite. Not a totally nude pic. But something more revealing to show me she ain't five o! That's what really concerns me! Especially the prices she quoted. I ain't biting until I'm comfortable. It seems that nobody else has any info on her. Either they're not sharing any, or there's just nothing to share right now. I know I'm gong to proceed with caution.
Has anyone met with this provider? I thought about putting this under the massage thread, but it doesn't seem like a massage as much as a provider offering a massage. It honestly looks TGTBT but I'm hopeful someone here can tell me otherwise.
Oh jeez. From time to time I see a post like this and it has me shaking my head and my blood boiling in fear for the monger. So now all niceties are aside and please remember I am trying to educate as to help others avoid mistakes. Apologize, but the style isn't going to be all Kumbaya!
But SERIOUSLY? You believe that a "more revealing" photo is going to prove a girl is NOT law enforcement? I don't know where to start with that. Two things come to mind, either ignorance (uneducated) or something LE would say.
If you have read these threads consistently, like any monger should, one will have seen NUMEROUS comments by J Richard about LE's use of photos. They CAN and often DO use photos in their sting operations. The detail on this is better left to him and his expertise.
I will say this, if I'm headed to court on some charges, I want to be able to show that the opponent used pictures that most would consider to be pornographic.*** Therefore, a questionable girl gets a request to provide a picture that is porno, usually a VJ shot. IF she refuses, then I move on. Too many fish in the sea. But according to what I have read here, such a picture may be provided by LE and as such that is no proof at all.
So if one wants to operate on the assumption that a "more revealing" photo is a sign the respondent is not LE, then this is a free country and one is free so to do. NOT me.
One of the ways mongers scr3 w themselves is to get obsessed with one girl, to the point that the little head is driving the bus. Developed Spidey Senses are to be trusted and it is often best to just move on.
Just saying.
Stay safe!
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*** In today's times with Porno being so ubiquitous, it is hard to say what 12 jurors or a sitting judge would find to be "offensive" and thus pornographic..
For starters, many of these providers have requested pics from mongers. So it's alright and acceptable for them to request pics from mongers? So why shouldn't we be able to do the same. Especially if we get a strange vibe!? As good as her pics look, combined with the very reasonable prices she's quoting, there are two things going on for sure. One: She doesn't even look close to the pics she's posting. That's a real good possibility. Or two: She's undercover five o, and looking to jam someone up! She doesn't post very often, and doesn't really look like your typical provider. No one else on here has any input or info on this provider. If they do, they're keeping it to themselves. So I have to be careful and do what I feel will be in my best interest. Nobody else is going to look out for me, so I have to.
As of now, I haven't asked her for a pic. It really doesn't look like I'm going to even pursue her anyway. Something just doesn't sit right with me about her. And nobody else knows anything? Hit her up for yourself and let me know what you think!
I just hit her up, trying to get more info. I told her that she doesn't dress like a typical provider and how long she's been in the game. She going to have to send me a revealing pic before I bite. Not a totally nude pic. But something more revealing to show me she ain't five o! That's what really concerns me! Especially the prices she quoted. I ain't biting until I'm comfortable. It seems that nobody else has any info on her. Either they're not sharing any, or there's just nothing to share right now. I know I'm gong to proceed with caution.
Oh jeez. From time to time I see a post like this and it has me shaking my head and my blood boiling in fear for the monger. So now all niceties are aside and please remember I am trying to educate as to help others avoid mistakes. Apologize, but the style isn't going to be all Kumbaya!
But SERIOUSLY? You believe that a "more revealing" photo is going to prove a girl is NOT law enforcement? I don't know where to start with that. Two things come to mind, either ignorance (uneducated) or something LE would say.
If you have read these threads consistently, like any monger should, one will have seen NUMEROUS comments by J Richard about LE's use of photos. They CAN and often DO use photos in their sting operations. The detail on this is better left to him and his expertise.
I will say this, if I'm headed to court on some charges, I want to be able to show that the opponent used pictures that most would consider to be pornographic.*** Therefore, a questionable girl gets a request to provide a picture that is porno, usually a VJ shot. IF she refuses, then I move on. Too many fish in the sea. But according to what I have read here, such a picture may be provided by LE and as such that is no proof at all.
So if one wants to operate on the assumption that a "more revealing" photo is a sign the respondent is not LE, then this is a free country and one is free so to do. NOT me.
One of the ways mongers scr3 w themselves is to get obsessed with one girl, to the point that the little head is driving the bus. Developed Spidey Senses are to be trusted and it is often best to just move on.
Just saying.
Stay safe!
.
.
.
.
.
*** In today's times with Porno being so ubiquitous, it is hard to say what 12 jurors or a sitting judge would find to be "offensive" and thus pornographic..