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  1. #3052
    Quote Originally Posted by Shampoo55  [View Original Post]
    OMFG it's getting worse! I guess there are hundreds of horny dudes with unlimited cash out there with no knowledge and willing to pay "list price!"

    I mean the number of girls now asking for $140, $150 and $180 for a Short Stay (SS) is ridiculous! If a SS is 20 minutes that is an equivalent hourly rate of $420, at $150 its $450. If it turns out to be a 15-min date then the girl is getting $520 to $600 per hour! Most of these girls aren't top-notched girls. At $600 one could be fucking 9's and 10's off of Tryst, so why over pay these average girls?

    I mean you can still get a full hour with an AMP girl for $160 - $260 depending on extras. Pre-Pandemic SS dates could be had for 60-80, maybe 100. Inflation hasn't increased 100%, so why are guys paying those rates?

    I suspect a $400 one could get a multiple hour date with SB type girls.
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6663644
    Note MB full, Don't bother. not interested in sharing.

    I'm just a proponent of VALUE and these rates don't reflect that. I guess those who don't negotiate or haven't learned how to are just willing to over pay. Sigh.

    As you were.
    Don't be mad that you are poor. If someone is willing to pay 200 for pussy while you only have 50, don't be mad at the guy who has money just because you don't have money. Don't be mad at the chick well who can get 200.

  2. #3051

    First contact

    Quote Originally Posted by Accu13  [View Original Post]
    Do you make the 1st approach? Just ask? I don't know how I would go about starting that conversation.
    There's no standard way on how to handle the 1st contact. Online social media, dating sites, tinder, etc. Are the easiest way but one needs to do it in a tactful way. Dating sites are a bit tricky since if you solicit using their mail system they'll likely ban your account. So one needs to work to get their direct contact to see if they might be interested in an arrangement. In person, one has to read the environment and the person. If the environment is relaxed and the person seems low key it's possible to ask them on the spot. If not, it's best to have fake business cards with a number and email address you use for this kind of situation. That way you can give them your card and ask them to contact you about an opportunity. Sometimes hanging out at a college town watering hole on a Friday / Saturday can present some opportunities. Buy them a drink, give them your card, and tell them to contact you about an opportunity to help with college / bills. But don't hang out there too long. Just chat with a few girls, give your card and leave. It's a lot of work but I find the results are better than with the majority of providers out there nowadays. I avoid Sugar sites nowadays. Too much GPS out there on them. But it's an easier way to go about it if one is willing to pay more.

  3. #3050

    Chocolate-KittyAds

    I saw Chocolate this weekend. Easy enough to make arrangements via text and there was some subtle humor in her messages that had me looking forward to what I thought would be a good meet-up. Unfortunately, there was no evidence of this engaging person when I showed up. She barely spoke and seemed to almost sleep walking. Head was blah and she basically laid there during the sex. I usually have a good rapport with people in general. Also, she had a very noticeable foul smell down below.

    The price was right, but I will not repeat. Shame, because her body is rocking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shampoo55  [View Original Post]
    Went to see Chocolate from KA again. This girl has a rockin body, just like her pics! Love that round tight bootie instead of a wide fat azz.

    Gave a BBBJ that is average. Sloppy, wet, but pace is too fast had to slow her down. Good pressure with the lips on the flute and makes some noise.

    Covered up and she got on top. Not really her thing as I had to use hands to direct the action. Flipped to doggie and got moans as she was stroked. Nice view of the round butt. She started playing with herself as I pounded away and was moaning. Maybe she popped, who knows, don't give a F about that, not why I'm there. Flipped her to mish and stroked it out while looking at our parts meshing. Tight enough I didn't last long and soon filled the bag.

    From what I hear, she might be open to bare play, no condom and cum inside her pink little pussy. Considering where she's from, consider the risks.

  4. #3049

    How?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frasier69  [View Original Post]
    I only seek out UTR in the wild now. Best I've been able to do with UTRs is $200 for 2-3 hr meetups every week and if I see them 2 x in the same week it's $300 for the week ($200 on 1st visit and $100 on 2nd visit)
    Do you make the 1st approach? Just ask? I don't know how I would go about starting that conversation.

  5. #3048

    Sign of the times

    Quote Originally Posted by Shampoo55  [View Original Post]
    I suspect a $400 one could get a multiple hour date with SB type girls.
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6663644
    This is why I don't bother with providers anymore. They're overpriced, majority are not that great looking, and there's a lack of regular new talent. Then you have all the other potential problems that seeing a provider has to offer.

    I only seek out UTR in the wild now. Best I've been able to do with UTRs is $200 for 2-3 hr meetups every week and if I see them 2 x in the same week it's $300 for the week ($200 on 1st visit and $100 on 2nd visit). But typically, most UTRs are looking for $250-350 per visit since they can easily work an extra shift to make anything less than that. Though I always establish a lower rate for a 2nd meetup during the same week. When I decide to stop seeing them regularly (usually within 1-2 months), I negotiate a rate between those two rates for ad hoc future visits.

    With jobs paying on average $25 an hour most providers will want at least $100-200 for short visits. I don't know what the average hourly job rate was pre-pandemic, but it was likely around $10 hr. Using that as a guide, provider rates nowadays will be 2. 5 x higher than pre-pandemic rates. There's also a supply and demand dynamic to it as well, less providers than before.

  6. #3047

    Fucking GPS!

    OMFG it's getting worse! I guess there are hundreds of horny dudes with unlimited cash out there with no knowledge and willing to pay "list price!"

    I mean the number of girls now asking for $140, $150 and $180 for a Short Stay (SS) is ridiculous! If a SS is 20 minutes that is an equivalent hourly rate of $420, at $150 its $450. If it turns out to be a 15-min date then the girl is getting $520 to $600 per hour! Most of these girls aren't top-notched girls. At $600 one could be fucking 9's and 10's off of Tryst, so why over pay these average girls?

    I mean you can still get a full hour with an AMP girl for $160 - $260 depending on extras. Pre-Pandemic SS dates could be had for 60-80, maybe 100. Inflation hasn't increased 100%, so why are guys paying those rates?

    I suspect a $400 one could get a multiple hour date with SB type girls.
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6663644
    Note MB full, Don't bother. not interested in sharing.

    I'm just a proponent of VALUE and these rates don't reflect that. I guess those who don't negotiate or haven't learned how to are just willing to over pay. Sigh.

    As you were.

  7. #3046
    Quote Originally Posted by Asmoth  [View Original Post]
    Appreciate it, any good spots that are legit but seedy?

    Like in Ohio we have a city called Akron that you can goto about four strip clubs and get blowjobs to sex right in the VIP.

    I went to some joint last time I was in Wilmington and it was lame, plus the security was pretty much sitting on my lap during lapdances. It has some decent talent from South America and the likes but the security definitely ruined the vibe.

    I like sleazy joints that turn blind eyes.
    There is one strip joint in Wilm: Haks & IMHO it's sleazy enough. Place is dry otherwise. Head up to Purple Orchid in S Philly area for AA dancers with extras, or take your life in your hands and hit the club in West Philly: Outer Space.

    But Akron? I'd rather do the girls in Cleveberg!

  8. #3045
    Quote Originally Posted by PPJones  [View Original Post]
    Here an old stroll map, still some girls on these routes. See post 41, I believe.

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...SW-Stroll-Maps
    Appreciate it, any good spots that are legit but seedy?

    Like in Ohio we have a city called Akron that you can goto about four strip clubs and get blowjobs to sex right in the VIP.

    I went to some joint last time I was in Wilmington and it was lame, plus the security was pretty much sitting on my lap during lapdances. It has some decent talent from South America and the likes but the security definitely ruined the vibe.

    I like sleazy joints that turn blind eyes.

  9. #3044

    Strolls

    Quote Originally Posted by Asmoth  [View Original Post]
    I have to visit for business for two weeks and am curious where is the best spot to find ******?

    Is there a part of town with them out on the street or any websites why'all recommend?
    Here an old stroll map, still some girls on these routes. See post 41, I believe.

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...SW-Stroll-Maps

  10. #3043

    Visiting Wilmington

    I have to visit for business for two weeks and am curious where is the best spot to find ******?

    Is there a part of town with them out on the street or any websites why'all recommend?

  11. #3042

    Chocolate from Kitty Ads

    Went to see Chocolate from KA again. This girl has a rockin body, just like her pics! Love that round tight bootie instead of a wide fat azz.

    Gave a BBBJ that is average. Sloppy, wet, but pace is too fast had to slow her down. Good pressure with the lips on the flute and makes some noise.

    Covered up and she got on top. Not really her thing as I had to use hands to direct the action. Flipped to doggie and got moans as she was stroked. Nice view of the round butt. She started playing with herself as I pounded away and was moaning. Maybe she popped, who knows, don't give a F about that, not why I'm there. Flipped her to mish and stroked it out while looking at our parts meshing. Tight enough I didn't last long and soon filled the bag.

    From what I hear, she might be open to bare play, no condom and cum inside her pink little pussy. Considering where she's from, consider the risks.
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  12. #3041

    NicciNicole

    Ran across this one on Tryst. Has anyone seen her?
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  13. #3040

    Frankie

    Quote Originally Posted by LostInde  [View Original Post]
    Jack. Got any info on her or a link to share?
    I didn't realize I posted her link on the wrong report. Hope you get up with her. She's a really good time bro!

    https://40up.com.listcrawler.eu/post...onde/162865355

  14. #3039

    Frankie

    https://40up.com.listcrawler.eu/post...onde/162865355

    Here's her link. I actually posted a 2nd report. Thinking that it didn't post. Only to see I was looking on the wrong thread. So if anyone sees two reports on Frankie, that's what haaa happened!

  15. #3038

    Frankie

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...onde/162865355

    Quote Originally Posted by LostInde  [View Original Post]
    Jack. Got any info on her or a link to share?

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