Ripoff Reports

[FreeWally]

Looking back, I'm still impressed at the long game her booker played. Like, this went on for over a week. And she never actually asked for help. She read me perfectly and knew she could get me to offer. And that's why I didn't suspect a thing. I guess the moral of the story is as everyone says here -- never fucking send money up front. By the way, this was a few years ago, the girl was named Melanie, and she's long since gone from the business, so I have no links or anything to alert people to.

I've dealt with several women over 20 years and to sum it up, never send money ahead of time. And if they go out of their way to chat with you, they want something. Usually playing the long game. Best case, they want an expensive relationship where you each get something. But more often they just want to ATM you for nothing.

I had one girl I was seeing often, I got her IG so I could visit her in another city where she lived, after she was done working (she quit after 3 weeks as originally planned). That didn't pan out, but a year later she worked again in SD so I saw her at the agency. So then she starts messaging me on IG, small talk, and it gets to sending her money that she can pay back for a future session. I blocked her. I have enough experience going down that road to know it isn't good. The clues were all there that she'd try this the second time I started seeing her, she kept asking me to hang out after the incall sessions. With a couple girls I might have taken the offer, but you can tell when a girl is trouble. I knew there were red flags, I thought there were maybe 3, but when I wrote in my journal and listed them out there were actually 12 red flags. There are always warnings ahead of time.

If she ever works again, and enough time has passed, I might still see her at the agency. The agency is reliable, so it's safe. Just me and her, it isn't. By the way she works as a restaurant greeter at a high end restaurant in Hollywood, but works once a year or whenever she has money trouble and needs more money fast. You wouldn't know looking at her, she is young and still has it. Such a shame.

[Jay Beck]

Figure I'd share my own scam report in case it helps anyone else out. I like to think I'm pretty savvy, but this one got me good. In a nutshell, a girl that I had seen several times got into some sort of dispute with her booker. Her booker then locked her out of her phone number while the girl was on vacation. Of course, I didn't know this and unfortunately for me I happen to reach out to her for a session right around the time she went on vacation. Pretending to be her, the booker texted back relatively quickly that she was on a FMTY to the east coast, but would be back next week and would be happy to set up an appointment then. I said great, let's get in touch next week. A few days later, she texts me again that she won't be back next week, as her trip there got extended. I say okay no problem. And then she proceeds to ask me small talk questions asking how I'm doing. We text sporadically over the next 2-3 days and finally she says that something bad happened with the client, and she had to GTFO really quickly, but then she lost her I'd so she couldn't get a plane ticket back. After another day or two of texting, where she's basically telling me about what's going on and I'm just acting as sympathetic as I can, she texts something to the effect that she's starting to run low on cash so she needs to figure out what to do.

This is where I decide to be nice and offer to help. I end up sending $800 via Zelle, which we both agreed wasn't a gift, but would cover two future sessions. We texted a few more times after that, she thanked me profusely, and I said to drop me a line when she got back. Over a week later, I still haven't heard from her. I text her a couple times, but no reply. Finally, I remember that I had originally connected with her on P411 so I message her on P411. That's when she's like, "Oh I have a funny story to tell you. I guess my booker texted a bunch of my clients and tried to scam them. " Well, fuuuuck.

I explain what happened, and she's shocked, but also not particularly sympathetic. She actually said at one point that she couldn't believe I fell for it. I end up seeing the girl one more time. In my mind, I'm hoping she'll offer me some sort of discount for getting scammed while trying to help her, but she never offered, and I kind of lost interest in seeing her after that.

Looking back, I'm still impressed at the long game her booker played. Like, this went on for over a week. And she never actually asked for help. She read me perfectly and knew she could get me to offer. And that's why I didn't suspect a thing. I guess the moral of the story is as everyone says here -- never fucking send money up front. By the way, this was a few years ago, the girl was named Melanie, and she's long since gone from the business, so I have no links or anything to alert people to.

[WebDog2015]

https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...iego/162490147

Not a ripoff in terms of deposits or stealing, just using fake pics and fake reviews.

I should have bailed the minute I saw her, but I went through with it. Thing just got worse and worse.

BBBJTCIM was okay but she is just plain gross. Would absolutely avoid at all costs, and definitely for the donation she is asking.

She brags about "HUGE SIZE 42F BREASTS (real)" but they're just rolls of fat. Based on having actual reviews on EB and pics of reviews in ads, figured she'd be worth a shot. But it is obvious all that shit is fake. She posts videos of her sucking dick in her ads. That probably is her, but that woman is gross AF and she hasn't looked that good in while. The pics may have been her in the 80s. I figured that if she really sucked dick that great I could get past her looks, but neither was true.

[Ace McNasty]

Will mongers ever learn? Nah.

Hello Suckers, my pictures are 100% FAKE but I'm available for gullible idiots only, all these pictures posted are stolen from other websites, I use these pictures in different locations with different phones numbers if you're stupid enough to contact me? I will ask for money up front and ghost you, it's called a deposit scam, I REALLY hope you fall for it, we are always looking for idiots to send us money. AND there are plenty of idiots out there.

I will violate my own sacred rule and actually post a 10-digit phone number. Maybe some of you are bored and spam this scammer with fake appointment bookings LOL.

[AsianBigDaddy]

I just received an incoming text from an escort I had seen once before. It was from a new number, but the text said "Hey, it's Alyvia", and when I inquired who it was (it was a new text thread, I had no idea), she sent a photo and I recognized her. Said this was her new number, and asked what I was doing, that she was a little short but wanted to get a hotel room, and maybe I could help her out and come see her. Quickly went to "send me $100 or $150 and I can book now?

I'm actually embarrassed it took me 10-15 minutes to realize this was almost certainly not her. I looked up her profile on PrivateDelights, and indeed she referenced that she has a new number, but the new number listed is different from the number I got the incoming text from. Whoever it was had my (burner) phone number though. I'm thinking a former booker of hers, or someone else nefarious, got a hold of her old phone and the numbers inside, and is trying to run a quick $100 scam on every phone number in there.

So. General reminder to distrust all incoming texts from numbers you don't recognize, even if they provide names and photos you recognize. Also of course don't send a payment up front in this type of situation, which I was not about to do (but the person switcheroo did slip past me for some minutes).

When I want to verify a provider I ask the to send me a pic of them giving their thumb up or an ok sign. When they refuse I know it anit them. Be smart bro.

[Rkriebel872]

I just received an incoming text from an escort I had seen once before. It was from a new number, but the text said "Hey, it's Alyvia", and when I inquired who it was (it was a new text thread, I had no idea), she sent a photo and I recognized her. Said this was her new number, and asked what I was doing, that she was a little short but wanted to get a hotel room, and maybe I could help her out and come see her. Quickly went to "send me $100 or $150 and I can book now?

I'm actually embarrassed it took me 10-15 minutes to realize this was almost certainly not her. I looked up her profile on PrivateDelights, and indeed she referenced that she has a new number, but the new number listed is different from the number I got the incoming text from. Whoever it was had my (burner) phone number though. I'm thinking a former booker of hers, or someone else nefarious, got a hold of her old phone and the numbers inside, and is trying to run a quick $100 scam on every phone number in there.

So. General reminder to distrust all incoming texts from numbers you don't recognize, even if they provide names and photos you recognize. Also of course don't send a payment up front in this type of situation, which I was not about to do (but the person switcheroo did slip past me for some minutes).

[Dtbj69]

Ron M from Chicago here.

Never ever send a deposit or pay a girl upfront.

If she wants money upfront just walk out.

My first pay upfront rip off was my last.

I will never ever pay a girl upfront. I always pay her after playtime is over.

When I was much younger I got ripped off.

Girl was sitting on bed by the door. Told me to get undressed and put clothes on chair by the other side.

As soon as I was undressed she bolted out the door.

Nowadays I always check the room to see if it's "lived in" with some personal items around.

If it's empty, it's a scam and I walk out immediately.

[PDXFrosty]

Wow so I left this same review on LC to warn others about this scam and the moderators decided not to post my review for Niomi and instead terminate my account. What kind of shit is that? ListCrawler is so trash. The people who run it don't give a fuck. The only reason I stay on it is because there are a few gems on there. It feels more like a hunt and it's honestly kind of exciting. But I wish they would do a better job at taking out the trash.

I wonder if this is scam or business as usual. I see why you wanted to see her from the pics (definitely my type also). I don't appreciate the hustle of someone else texting inaccurate info about the menu. We are all a bit wiser from your post.

[CunningLnguist]

https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...iego/130292679

https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/6199741873

https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/6193780925

For the most part I'm pretty good at navigating LC and finding some gems. But every once in awhile the little brain gets the best of me and I find myself in a bad situation. Last night was one of those times. I mostly monger during the morning / afternoon time. But every once in awhile I'll go out for a late night snack. And you know what I've learned now? Not once have I had a good experience late night mongering. Everything goes wrong after midnight.

I've been seeing this girl's ads for awhile and it had me curious. I don't usually go for black chickss but she looked fit, petite, and some nice tits. I wanted to know what the "Cheap BBJ deal" was because those fat DSL's looked like fun too.

She never hits me back during the day but finally she replies last night. I arrange to go see her at like 2 am and everything was fine in the text messages. BBJ only is 80 while QV is 100 HHR 150 HR 200 W / BBJ included. We made all of that clear. I opted for QV w / BBJ for 100. Done deal. I show up and she tells me to wait 3 minutes while she finishes up showering. No worries. I like them fresh and clean. She gives me the room number and when I get to the door she doesn't answer. She peaks out the window and holds a finger up telling me to wait a little bit longer. I wait for like 5 minutes. The door opens and..

Wow so I left this same review on LC to warn others about this scam and the moderators decided not to post my review for Niomi and instead terminate my account. What kind of shit is that? ListCrawler is so trash. The people who run it don't give a fuck. The only reason I stay on it is because there are a few gems on there. It feels more like a hunt and it's honestly kind of exciting. But I wish they would do a better job at taking out the trash.

[CunningLnguist]

https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...iego/130292679

https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/6199741873

https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/6193780925

For the most part I'm pretty good at navigating LC and finding some gems. But every once in awhile the little brain gets the best of me and I find myself in a bad situation. Last night was one of those times. I mostly monger during the morning / afternoon time. But every once in awhile I'll go out for a late night snack. And you know what I've learned now? Not once have I had a good experience late night mongering. Everything goes wrong after midnight.

I've been seeing this girl's ads for awhile and it had me curious. I don't usually go for black chickss but she looked fit, petite, and some nice tits. I wanted to know what the "Cheap BBJ deal" was because those fat DSL's looked like fun too.

She never hits me back during the day but finally she replies last night. I arrange to go see her at like 2 am and everything was fine in the text messages. BBJ only is 80 while QV is 100 HHR 150 HR 200 W / BBJ included. We made all of that clear. I opted for QV w / BBJ for 100. Done deal. I show up and she tells me to wait 3 minutes while she finishes up showering. No worries. I like them fresh and clean. She gives me the room number and when I get to the door she doesn't answer. She peaks out the window and holds a finger up telling me to wait a little bit longer. I wait for like 5 minutes. The door opens and.

It's a dude! This black dude walks out of the room, I am confused and nervously say "sup". He ignores me and walks down the catwalk. Pimp? Boyfriend? Earlier customer? Eh. I go in and am greeted by Niomi who is not as petite and toned as I imagined. She's tall and a little thick. I could make out her rack under her shirt so that was there at least. She had on a bare midriff with some leather black pants. She makes no I contact or gives no greeting. Just looking at her phone that annoying way provider's do when they suck at their job, and points to the area of the bed she wants me to sit. I sit and she takes another minute or two on her phone before getting on her knees. She's not undressed or anything yet. She starts with the BBJ and it was so bad. Imagine getting your dick sucked by a dead fish. It was so slow, only put the tip in, barely bobbing her head, couldn't even feel the inside of her mouth just her lips which were stiff. I've had hundreds of BJ's in my life and this was #1 the worst BJ in my entire life. I was so full of regret I couldn't even get it up. She stops after 3 minutes and stands up and says "I don't know what you want me to do". I tell her to get a condom and let's just fuck and get it over with. That's when she tells me no, FS is not included in the QV.

WTF? I show her the text messages from earlier and she says that it's not even her texting it's someone else. She says $80 is a CBJ (not what it even says in her ad but ok), $100 is BBJ, and QV w / CFS is $200. I get up and tell her forget it, I'm done and I'll be sure to write a review and let everyone know about the scam. She doesn't say anything and immediately gets back on her phone and starts texting. I'm thinking 'oh shit she's texting her pimp, I better pop smoke out of here'. I get dressed quick and GTFO. As I drive off I see her pimp / bf standing outside chatting with the hotel manager.

She / He has been posting several times daily over the last week in Mission Valley and Hotel Circle. They have 2 different accounts. One that posts in 'Hotel Circle' and the other posts in 'Mission Valley'. She is real but she is dishonest and terrible.

Here's her IG as well: instagram.com/ Babyniomi2.

[Sudcciv]

Is it just me, or does EVERY website with "providers" on it have nothing but SCAMMERS on it, seeking "deposits", "gift cards" and "CashApp" use? Is this law enforcement'a newest trick to drive traffic AWAY from these sites, or are they 100% all "international" scammers?

[Member #6293]

Hi guys,

I've had a great week as far as mongering goes. Seen 5 ladies. All across PD, HX, LC, did 2 in one day and even picked up a nice SW for a BJ. For awhile members have PM'ed me applauding me, asking for advice, and treating me like some kind of expert. But I'm no expert. I still make mistakes here in there. Comes with the territory that you'll get scammed but many times it can be avoided. Well this week I did get scammed and I definitely knew better so I guess I kinda of had it coming.

Been checking out this girl on LC for awhile. She advertises in National City. I followed her Instagram handle and would see her daily stories which kept awareness, interest, and desire up for me enough to take action soon. Then she posts $100 bare meet up for a QV $200 for hhr. But you had to send a deposit.

Little brain took over and I slid into her dm's. She asked for that deposit and at first I declined. I said nope I been scammed before. She went on a rant about how b*tches like that make providers look bad and how she doesn't need to do that. Little brain buys into it and sends 1 bill. She sends me the address which was the Ramada off Roosevelt but then immediately after that she stops responding. 5 minutes later surprise she blocks me on IG.

I was so mad at myself because I knew fucking better. I attempted to text her with a different number to see if I can arrange a meetup and find out where her incall was without a deposit. But she stopped responding after a few exchanges. Think she caught on and knew it was me.

Someone else on LC finally reviewed her and sounds like she is real but also provides the worst service ever. I'm posting this on here now because she is still posting daily and I want to warn others about her.

https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/6193694728/1

Fuck this girl.

[Ron M]

Ron M from Chicago here.

Never ever send a deposit or pay a girl upfront.

If she wants money upfront just walk out.

My first pay upfront rip off was my last.

I will never ever pay a girl upfront. I always pay her after playtime is over.

[Jason619]

https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...iego/112145667

619-209-1371.

Showed up to the adult store. She asked for 250. I told her 150. She agree. Gave her the money and went to the back. She said she needed to get a condom and went up front. She left her purse about a minute or so later she didn't come back. I knew I was scammed looked into her purse it was empty I thought I saw her put the money in there. I went upfront not there, went outside car was gone. My fault. BEWARE!

Good info. Thanks and sucks you got taken for that much. She was mentioned in post 168 of this thread too. Seems to rebrand after scamming for a period of time. Get cash and dash in both instances.

Sounds like the pics are accurate? Definitely wouldn't be smart to see her for an outcall!

[Dream619]

https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...iego/112145667

619-209-1371.

Showed up to the adult store. She asked for 250. I told her 150. She agree. Gave her the money and went to the back. She said she needed to get a condom and went up front. She left her purse about a minute or so later she didn't come back. I knew I was scammed looked into her purse it was empty I thought I saw her put the money in there. I went upfront not there, went outside car was gone. My fault. BEWARE!