The mind of a Korean working girl

[Glogauer]

"With five dollars in your pocket, you're handsome, you're funny, and you sing good, too!"

Yup. I'm a married guy and I'll try to explain to you single (and apparently younger) guys why most of the customers at KBs are married. If you hadn't noticed, most of us guys are a bit older and have seen better days. But despite what we see in the mirror everyday, deep down inside we still regard ourselves as the young studs we once were. The KBs are an oasis where we are waited on, cuddled, complimented, and pursued. I kinda enjoy just sitting at the bar and receiving the attention. If only for a little bit as far as my $20 neko will take me (usually about 10-15 minutes). It's a nice place to blow off the stress and cortisol that has built up over the day and week. It is massage for the ego. And it is completely fair to compensate the KBGs for their time. Most trades (plumbers, electricians) charge about $120/ hr. The higher priced professionals (engineers, accountants, lawyers) $150 - $300/ hr. So depending on the KBG, that's 4 drinks / hr on the lower end and 10/ hr on the higher end. If you're strictly looking for sex, then yes the KB is the wrong venue. Definitely no value at the KB for the physical sex act.

But here's where it gets interesting: many of us married guys cross over to the next level and go into "hunt" mode. It's the thrill of the chase. Yes, the KBGs will up their hourly rate accordingly and it's fun to bait and stalk. But that's why men fish and hunt. There's no hunt in buying the steak at the supermarket. Yes, it is expensive. But I think no more expensive than hunting or fishing. And as you see on this thread, we compare our catches and often post the trophies for display.

And yes, it is addictive. I now kinda think of KBGs like slot machines. I feed them drinks and see which ones will pay out. Some are looser than others. But it is the anticipation and the discovery that is fun. And oh that dopamine high when you hit a jackpot. There's no thrill of victory if there is no risk of losing. And as the old-timers put it, its about maximizing your earnings while minimizing your loses. So there is that much more joy when the KBG lets you take her home at no additional cost. Of course, there are hidden fees. But that's a whole 'nother topic. Sometimes you chase them 'til they catch you.

But the main thing is that for the most part in my experience KBGs are professionals. As a married man, I don't have to dress up. I can come to the bar when I want to. Usually right after work. They know and I know that this is their profession, and I won't be getting klingy text messages or calls at home. I'm not looking for another wife or girlfriend and am completely willing to share her with others. I'm paying, so I expect good service regardless what mood she is in. As a married man, can't do this thing with civilians at local or tourist bars.

I honestly can't speak for the guys who go into the next tier: long term relationships. I think the most I've slept with a particular KBG is three times. And the thrill is gone already. I hover between tier 1 and 2.

What I don't understand is why SINGLE guys go to KBs. Ok -if you fugly, I understand. But dammit, if you got good looks, game, and guns (or bazookas) - you should be hunting out at the local bars and clubs to chase women who aren't trying to earn a living by spending time with you!

It's been a while since I had posted this in KOREAN BAR REPORTS and wanted to share my recent experiences to generate some discussion:

The #1 rule everybody has posted in both the open forums and PMs is "NEVER FALL IN LOVE". I bet the Mama-sans probably give the same advice to their girls.

But for the past couple of years I actually found myself in that next tier of "long term relationships". Since my post, twice I had slept with a KBG and found that I really enjoyed her company both in and out of the bar. (To be honest, I enjoyed that each made me feel better about myself.) The sex was pretty good, but eventually it got withheld while I continued to pay taxes, and so both relationships ended rather badly. I wish I could say it didn't hurt, but it definitely left some cardiac scar tissue.

Now I'm on KBG #3. Just met her about a month ago. We click. Went on a long date. Had amazing sex.

I see my courses of action as follows:

1. Break it off now, before I lose my heart (again). Quit while I'm ahead. Repent, recommit to a life of integrity and regain some self respect.

2. Let it roll. Take it day by day. Hakuna Matata. Easy come, easy go. Let her make the moves.

3. Go all in. Live and love with abandon. Sweep her off her feet, and try to get in as much sex as possible while getting is good.

I really like this one. I'm not going to leave my wife, but I think I could love her. After playing the slots for 15 years, have I hit my jackpot? I don't really want to waste another 15 years. I want to get off of this treadmill. I hope this is the last KBG I see.

Can this work? Her #1 priority is freedom, and she isn't looking for a husband. So this might work, under the following conditions:

1. I only see her outside of the bar.

2. She gets out of the bar business soon (like, within 3 to 6 months).

3. She gets a regular job and becomes financially independent.

Any married guy out there been able to have their cake and eat it too? Maintain a long term relationship with a KBG or ex-KBG?

GG.

[LoveAddict444]

Seems like Kison is almost full BBFS as a standard, and Happiness is 60/40 BBFS / CFS. Probably why those two places have been moved to the top of the forums, they're the best going right now. There's also Nabi which is a mixed bag of providers from different places. Haven't ventured to many other places in recent years, but I'd assume mostly CFS.

I'd like to know about the options beyond Happyland and Kison too actually.

How you all been? Has anyone got good news about the AMP scene? Where is all the BBFS? Would anyone care to share a list of the latest and greatest?

[Un Holy]

How you all been? Has anyone got good news about the AMP scene? Where is all the BBFS? Would anyone care to share a list of the latest and greatest?

[LoveAddict444]

Thanks? Don't wish that evil on me brah! I'm going to buy fuckin gas station rhino pills if I have to LOL.

After her friend saw you at the beach and the walk to the car, the best way to put a leash on a dog. Congratz. LOL.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...terone-men-sex

[KFish]

Thanks for the responses guys. I'm going to try work it into my budget better, or maybe just take a long hiatus until I'm in a wealthier position, asking because we have a kid on the way and all that, money going to be a little less, but still comfortable.

Also to all the long-timers, did getting into this hobby after a while ruin regular women for you? Before I met the wifey (Japanese) I was already mongering, dating & hooking up where I could, whenever I felt like I wanted the female companionship, which is rare. I don't really need / like female companionship most of the time, I'm surrounded by fucking women in my family, and I meet women all the time, but I just like oof without commitment LOL. That was my lifestyle until I met my wife, who is a regular girl, parents from Japan, grew up here partially, and not even anywhere near related to our "world", let's just say our relationship is more of an emotional connection and partnership than physical.

I mean the physical ain't horrible, but I've never ever been "done" by my wife or a regular chick from the street / club / dating as good or the same way as I have been by a high quality provider, I'm talking just pure physical skill, foreplay, intensity and everything. It's even worse because generally Asian is my type and that's the majority of clean, accessible, cheap, safe providers.

What's everyone's experience after being in this world a long time and being with so many providers? Especially the married or non-single guys. Do you notice your love emotions getting more and more separated from your sexual emotions? Almost like whether your woman is good or not in bed doesn't even matter as long as she's loyal / nice / attractive / takes care of you etc?

After her friend saw you at the beach and the walk to the car, the best way to put a leash on a dog. Congratz. LOL.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...terone-men-sex

[Glogauer]

If this doesn't get deleted by Admin. I'll respond in the Men's Health thread, because I don't think I'm senior enough to create my own thread.

GG.

Thanks for the responses guys. I'm going to try work it into my budget better, or maybe just take a long hiatus until I'm in a wealthier position, asking because we have a kid on the way and all that, money going to be a little less, but still comfortable.

Also to all the long-timers, did getting into this hobby after a while ruin regular women for you? Before I met the wifey (Japanese) I was already mongering, dating & hooking up where I could, whenever I felt like I wanted the female companionship, which is rare. I don't really need / like female companionship most of the time, I'm surrounded by fucking women in my family, and I meet women all the time, but I just like oof without commitment LOL. That was my lifestyle until I met my wife, who is a regular girl, parents from Japan, grew up here partially, and not even anywhere near related to our "world", let's just say our relationship is more of an emotional connection and partnership than physical.

I mean the physical ain't horrible, but I've never ever been "done" by my wife or a regular chick from the street / club / dating as good or the same way as I have been by a high quality provider, I'm talking just pure physical skill, foreplay, intensity and everything. It's even worse because generally Asian is my type and that's the majority of clean, accessible, cheap, safe providers.

What's everyone's experience after being in this world a long time and being with so many providers? Especially the married or non-single guys. Do you notice your love emotions getting more and more separated from your sexual emotions? Almost like whether your woman is good or not in bed doesn't even matter as long as she's loyal / nice / attractive / takes care of you etc?

[LoveAddict444]

Thanks for the responses guys. I'm going to try work it into my budget better, or maybe just take a long hiatus until I'm in a wealthier position, asking because we have a kid on the way and all that, money going to be a little less, but still comfortable.

Also to all the long-timers, did getting into this hobby after a while ruin regular women for you? Before I met the wifey (Japanese) I was already mongering, dating & hooking up where I could, whenever I felt like I wanted the female companionship, which is rare. I don't really need / like female companionship most of the time, I'm surrounded by fucking women in my family, and I meet women all the time, but I just like oof without commitment LOL. That was my lifestyle until I met my wife, who is a regular girl, parents from Japan, grew up here partially, and not even anywhere near related to our "world", let's just say our relationship is more of an emotional connection and partnership than physical.

I mean the physical ain't horrible, but I've never ever been "done" by my wife or a regular chick from the street / club / dating as good or the same way as I have been by a high quality provider, I'm talking just pure physical skill, foreplay, intensity and everything. It's even worse because generally Asian is my type and that's the majority of clean, accessible, cheap, safe providers.

What's everyone's experience after being in this world a long time and being with so many providers? Especially the married or non-single guys. Do you notice your love emotions getting more and more separated from your sexual emotions? Almost like whether your woman is good or not in bed doesn't even matter as long as she's loyal / nice / attractive / takes care of you etc?

[BotoMoco]

Small kine off topic but, how you guys budget for mongering without the wife knowing? Are you still able to save and invest / live well?

I know this lifestyle way fuckin cheaper and less risky than going out in public with a "side order". I been pretty deep into this hobby for a few years now already and I want to know how you guys manage your visits while still improving your life / finances. Once a week? Once a month? Every now and then? You set aside some cash for it? Special occasion?

Thanks,

LoveAddict.

Like anything else its all about moderation but like drugs this hobby also can get addicting. Hopefully you are smart enough to draw the line and know how much you can really afford and don't get drawn in by falling for one of these girls. Its all about the money for them and remember that they are pros at what they do.

[Makana9]

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First, you need to be making decent money to afford this hobby -especially if you're married with kids and paying private school tuition. Second, all the big spenders that I know of have their own business or are commission sales or bonus-comp heavy executives that have expense accounts. Having your own business is the best way to hide the funds from Mrs.

That motion, I know of only 2 guys with regular jobs but they hang around with our gang so many a time either my venture cap, RE, or I (run me own Comps.) That kinda afford this lifestyle. They were KB braddahs, me more VB. Then I went to less hunt more AMP, mp, indies which is aNother whole story. I was 1st witness to seeing my bud give up his ohana for this KB diva, after months of cons, then marriage, worst 3nd divorce I ever saw. Took years before he finally moved forward and got bk on his feet and less in the game. It was sad and one lesson for our gang. It's all a game, and how you play. Your hand. He remarried to a beautiful girl, sadly though still estranged to his 2 kids (adults now) to this day. I guess I talked to them more since I see them on my business hops to the outer islands. Always lessons 2 b learned AND price $ To pay.

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[Glogauer]

Small kine off topic but, how you guys budget for mongering without the wife knowing? Are you still able to save and invest / live well?

I know this lifestyle way fuckin cheaper and less risky than going out in public with a "side order". I been pretty deep into this hobby for a few years now already and I want to know how you guys manage your visits while still improving your life / finances. Once a week? Once a month? Every now and then? You set aside some cash for it? Special occasion?

Thanks,

LoveAddict.

First, you need to be making decent money to afford this hobby -especially if you're married with kids and paying private school tuition. Second, all the big spenders that I know of have their own business or are commission sales or bonus-comp heavy executives that have expense accounts. Having your own business is the best way to hide the funds from Mrs.

[LoveAddict444]

Small kine off topic but, how you guys budget for mongering without the wife knowing? Are you still able to save and invest / live well?

I know this lifestyle way fuckin cheaper and less risky than going out in public with a "side order". I been pretty deep into this hobby for a few years now already and I want to know how you guys manage your visits while still improving your life / finances. Once a week? Once a month? Every now and then? You set aside some cash for it? Special occasion?

Thanks,

LoveAddict.

[FunGuy808]

A while back I had a girlfriend I met at Starbucks, we ended up dating and had amazing sex. She mentioned that she worked at a hostess bar Princess off Nimitz it isn't there anymore. Well we dated for 4 years and she got some health problems and lost her regular job. It was about our 3rd year together and she asked if I would let her work at Princess again, she told me that she made lots of money but warned me that guys would be buying her drinks and to get them to buy more she would have to let them touch her and touch them back. I told her that I trusted her and said I'm willing to try. So after a few weeks I gat a call at 4 am asking me to pick her up. I get there and she is drunk off her ass and wasn't wearing the same clothes she left the house in as well as her blouse was unbuttoned 1/2 way down. She said she fell asleep in the kitchen and tried to sleep off the alcohol. I asked her why she was wearing something different and she said she has to attract more guys that way. Well it seems that someone slipped a drug in her drink and though she says she can't recall had unprotected sex. I knew cause she had cum dripping out of her and on her panties. Needles to say she was lucky that she didn't get pregnant nor caught a disease. She ended up quitting because of the incident and I wouldn't allow her to go back. There are guys that also take advantage of the girls too. Someone is always trying to get what they want at someone else expense.

[Finger Licking]

Wanted to share some personal experience in dealing with working girls. I have been visiting AMPs and hostess bars for some years now and only a couple of times have I had feelings for any of these girls. As a newbie I felt sorry for one KBG, wanted to "help" here to get out of the bar, her response was "why would I want to quit, I make more than you do". OK lesson learned. After that I had no problem visiting these ladies, having my fun knowing it is only business. I prefer the AMPs because the girls, although they are acting, don't give you the impression that there is a possible future with them. Just go get yours and walk out, don't even think about them until the next visit. Hostess bars are totally different, I usually just go to drink and never buy more than one or two neckos, plus play is more difficult. I would see the girls more as friends, maybe get a back rub, a little flirting and eye candy. Easy to say "sorry no more money! Now, I know things do happen in the booths or back room but it is usually too much work, multiple visits and playing along with their games. I thought I was smarter than them LOL.

Met a new girl and things progressed quickly. Starts telling me she loves me, wants to be my girlfriend, wants to go out to eat etc. None of which ever happened but I fall for it. I started believing her. I know I need a reality check so I start searching the forum and found this thread and every single thing she said is reported here by others. It has helped me see thru the BS.

I guess my point is that these girls are professionals and that we will believe what we want to believe. We are just a number to them, a sucker and it is our responsibility to keep these "relationships" in their proper context. BUSINESS! The majority have no moral problem with what they are doing. Maybe this will help someone as other have helped me.

Preach my brother LOL. I think this happens far too often. Guys get suckered and fall for it and feel obligated to visit their provider more frequently or be exclusive to them. Fk think about it guys these women and sucking and fucking 10 + Guys a day. Though once in a blue moon there are legit ones. I dated a provider for a year. She even paid for everything hotels. Trips etc.

[Maxwell88]

Wanted to share some personal experience in dealing with working girls. I have been visiting AMPs and hostess bars for some years now and only a couple of times have I had feelings for any of these girls. As a newbie I felt sorry for one KBG, wanted to "help" here to get out of the bar, her response was "why would I want to quit, I make more than you do". OK lesson learned. After that I had no problem visiting these ladies, having my fun knowing it is only business. I prefer the AMPs because the girls, although they are acting, don't give you the impression that there is a possible future with them. Just go get yours and walk out, don't even think about them until the next visit. Hostess bars are totally different, I usually just go to drink and never buy more than one or two neckos, plus play is more difficult. I would see the girls more as friends, maybe get a back rub, a little flirting and eye candy. Easy to say "sorry no more money! Now, I know things do happen in the booths or back room but it is usually too much work, multiple visits and playing along with their games. I thought I was smarter than them LOL.

Met a new girl and things progressed quickly. Starts telling me she loves me, wants to be my girlfriend, wants to go out to eat etc. None of which ever happened but I fall for it. I started believing her. I know I need a reality check so I start searching the forum and found this thread and every single thing she said is reported here by others. It has helped me see thru the BS.

I guess my point is that these girls are professionals and that we will believe what we want to believe. We are just a number to them, a sucker and it is our responsibility to keep these "relationships" in their proper context. BUSINESS! The majority have no moral problem with what they are doing. Maybe this will help someone as other have helped me.

[Hawaii Kempo]

True enough, as they say, "even monkeys fall from trees" but as a general rule KBGs are there to provide a service for money. That is not saying they're evil or bad, it's saying that is just the way it is. "Good ones" are ones who provide the service that you expect whatever that expectation is. Think you're going to find your girlfriend or future wife in a KB? Keep thinking that and spend, spend, spend the money. Oh and BTW after you leave, there's another guy waiting in line.

Ss.

Interesting perspective but rule of nature nothing can be stereotyped. Many people are ignorant but think they know everything. I also am ignorant although been going kbars for just about 20 years and have spent my share of hundreds of thousands at these places. Women are there to provide a service but not sexual. Hahaha but some women will do anything for money but some won't. If you go to AMPs then yes the women there are there for just one reason so if you spend money then you will get some. If you go to a KB and get disappointed because you didn't get any, well we know its a gamble. I had girls that I only bought one drink every hour and ended up seeing them and others that became my gf's that I'd stay at her place until she finishes work then I'd pick her up and after a month ended up moving in with her for few years she worked the bar because didn't like touchy customers. Haha but she quit after 2 weeks of being my girl.

She was the best cook and sex 3-7 times everyday was awesome. Ah paradise. Hahaha but in the past. But there are those girls who like. But still will make you spend. Bottom line you can't stereotype. But if ya want a gf a KB isn't the place to shop. If ya want to Monger then most times you will only attract the bad girls. The girls also talk about us if we nice cheap or spend or are touchy or if we make them drink big bottles of beer. Haha.