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[Clinton Bush]

From a theoretical economics perspective, there is actually a pretty good rationale for this pricing structure.

Let's assume a provider was previously at 250 and 150. There is a range of prices that mongers can afford. When times get tight, those that have been affected the most may no longer be able to afford this provider at those rates. So, by dropping her HH rate may still allow the provider to keep some of those clients that would otherwise disappear.

At the higher end, guys who otherwise might have gone for the full hour may still choose to see the provider if they cannot afford the higher rate, but can choose to save money by going for a 30 minute session. The provider loses something, but still has some income. If the provider drops the full hour rate, then she will keep some of these clients at the full hour rate rather than at the lower 30 minute rate. However, this could be very costly. The number of guys that can afford 200 but not 250 is probably pretty low. Most that can afford 200 probably can still afford 250. So, if the provider drops the hour rate to 200, then she loses 50 on every one of her hour clients.

Here is a hypothetical example. I'm going to keep the math easy and ignore the customers who previously were at 30 minutes for this example. Let's assume that the provider normally sees 10 clients a week for a full hour. Let's now assume that, due to the economy, 4 of her hourly clients cannot afford that any longer. 2 of them have to drop the hobby completely and the other 2 can afford something less expensive.

Prior to the recession, she earned 2500 weekly from these clients. Let's assume that she drops her HH rate to 125 and her hourly rate to 200. This allows her to keep all of her hourly customers that are still in the hobby. She now earns 8*200 for a total of 1600 weekly.

If she drops only here 30 minute rate, then 2 of her clients will opt for the half and the other 6 that are still in the hobby will remain at the full hour. Now she earns 6*250 plus 2*125 for a total of 1750 weekly.

This example shows that by dropping the top rate, she actually loses money even though she gets more full hour clients. The trick is that it is hard for her to drop the rate only for those that cannot afford 250. Some get around this by running periodic specials. So, for most of the time, they still get their full amount, but then pick up some extra lower cost business during specials.

I know that this is purely theoretical, and I certainly don't think that most providers are going through it in this level of detail. But, I think that they intuitively understand their market and make pricing decisions that maximize their income.

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You should be working for the government to get the economy going again! In your example above by dropping her low rate from 150 to 125 she might also pick up a couple new clients to replace the 2 who left the hobby so maybe she can add another 2 x 125 or 250 to her 1750 for a total of 2000. If she is willing to do a few 75 or 100 quickies she might even be able to get back to her 2500 pre-recession earnings. We all have to work a little harder in this economy to make money.

[Member #3990]

SO this girl is posting on backpage and CL #407-209-4226, cant find any info or research turns up nothin'. I'd come off 250, even in this economy for greek, lol, emails were not returned from her.

Any help is appreciated.

[Chochem]

I've already received one answer via PM (thanks for the reply), so this is going out to the other ladies:

I've noticed that some ladies have lowered their prices on 15 min and 30 min, but not for an hour.

Why are most escorts still asking for their original full price for an hour of their time?

From a theoretical economics perspective, there is actually a pretty good rationale for this pricing structure.

Let's assume a provider was previously at 250 and 150. There is a range of prices that mongers can afford. When times get tight, those that have been affected the most may no longer be able to afford this provider at those rates. So, by dropping her HH rate may still allow the provider to keep some of those clients that would otherwise disappear.

At the higher end, guys who otherwise might have gone for the full hour may still choose to see the provider if they cannot afford the higher rate, but can choose to save money by going for a 30 minute session. The provider loses something, but still has some income. If the provider drops the full hour rate, then she will keep some of these clients at the full hour rate rather than at the lower 30 minute rate. However, this could be very costly. The number of guys that can afford 200 but not 250 is probably pretty low. Most that can afford 200 probably can still afford 250. So, if the provider drops the hour rate to 200, then she loses 50 on every one of her hour clients.

Here is a hypothetical example. I'm going to keep the math easy and ignore the customers who previously were at 30 minutes for this example. Let's assume that the provider normally sees 10 clients a week for a full hour. Let's now assume that, due to the economy, 4 of her hourly clients cannot afford that any longer. 2 of them have to drop the hobby completely and the other 2 can afford something less expensive.

Prior to the recession, she earned 2500 weekly from these clients. Let's assume that she drops her HH rate to 125 and her hourly rate to 200. This allows her to keep all of her hourly customers that are still in the hobby. She now earns 8*200 for a total of 1600 weekly.

If she drops only here 30 minute rate, then 2 of her clients will opt for the half and the other 6 that are still in the hobby will remain at the full hour. Now she earns 6*250 plus 2*125 for a total of 1750 weekly.

This example shows that by dropping the top rate, she actually loses money even though she gets more full hour clients. The trick is that it is hard for her to drop the rate only for those that cannot afford 250. Some get around this by running periodic specials. So, for most of the time, they still get their full amount, but then pick up some extra lower cost business during specials.

I know that this is purely theoretical, and I certainly don't think that most providers are going through it in this level of detail. But, I think that they intuitively understand their market and make pricing decisions that maximize their income.

I

[PeterPiper52]

LOL. I guess you missed the Jimmy Carter years. 15% mortgages and 12% unemployment. But as with any economic condition, supply and demand ebbs and flows. At this point in the demand curve, prices should and will fall. There is far more supply than what the average Monger is willing to pay for. The laws of supply and demand dictate that prices must fall. Most Mongers don't have the same disposable income they had a year ago. I am getting $/hour quality deals. I know this upsets some providers, but you can't fight economics. If we pay more, it destroys the delicate balance of ecosystem in Central Florida. I will pay $$/hr for the very rare exception, but it will be the rare exception. The quality is not suffering, but more to contrary, the quality is improving exponentially.

And yes, the Goddess is hot.

WOF

I stand corrected. I DO remember the Carter years. But I wasn't much of a mongerer back then. Hah!

[Orlando J]

your site is unavailable.

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i recently wrote a article about the legalization of prostitution and the pro's. in this too it would affect supply and demand therefore affecting the rates. it would be less scam artists and **** girls if business licenses were required. the low end will never go away but it would dissipate some. every city is different. some cities i only use eros. some i use many sites. i find the median between high end and low rates usually works the best. in orlando when you run your rates really really low you bring in a different kind of clientele as well. the man's whole attitute can change and there is less of a respect level. as well as in orlando when you deal with some men off eros, the arrogance and obnoxiousness is disgusting. i have had some of the most unsavory, racist and crappy men off eros. i have learned to bite my tounge i have had men tell me that they won't even see a girl that is offering rates on the low end and i have had wonderful men who have been with me a long time that needed an adjustment to fit into their budget during the economic crisis. sometimes it's just a roll of the dice.

[WarpFactor69]

I've already received one answer via PM (thanks for the reply), so this is going out to the other ladies:

I've noticed that some ladies have lowered their prices on 15 min and 30 min, but not for an hour.

Why are most escorts still asking for their original full price for an hour of their time?

[Goddess]

Yes my site is currently acting like a crackhead. I sent the webmaster a ticket for repair so it should be up soon. The article isn't on my site. I wrote it for an adult magazine, however I can send it to you via pm if you want.

Your site is unavailable.

[Orlando J]

I have been calling for legalizing prostitution. Canada was a good example. The unfortunate thing is while it's legal the communities are still rejecting it.

In October 2006, Bill 206 was legislated giving police in Alberta the authority to seize vehicles from individuals charged with a prostitution-related offence “i.e. communicating for the purpose of engaging in prostitution or of obtaining the sexual services of a prostitute.” The legislation was intended to provide police with another tool in reducing social disorder in communities by deterring individuals from cruising neighborhoods and engaging in prostitution.

The goal of the "You Cruise, You Lose" campaign is to tackle the demand side of prostitution by deterring sex trade consumers from cruising Edmonton’s neighborhoods and engaging in prostitution resulting in safer and more secure neighborhoods.

The Edmonton Police Service intends to bring about awareness of this legislation to make potential ‘johns’ and sex trade consumers realize the reality and consequences of the breaking the law. The fear of losing the family car, company vehicle or method of transportation should act as a deterrent to those who cruise.

For all Edmonton mongers. This is crazy and hypocrite: prostitution is legal in Canada.

Often called solicitation. If anyone talks to a Sex Trade Worker about exchanging sexual services for money or other consideration (e.g., drugs, payment of bills, gas, food, etc.) and this occurs in a public place they are committing an illegal act. This includes a car on a street or in a parking lot or any place which the public has access (e.g., restaurant, hotel lobby, etc.).

http://www.edmontonpolice.ca/Communi...stitution.aspx

Having the authority to seize motor vehicles is a valuable enforcement tool to tackle the demand side of prostitution. Police have a responsibility to work with communities and need the cooperation of all stakeholders to deal with every facet of prostitution. Only through partnership can we hope to reduce the harmful effects related to prostitution related activities.

http://www.edmontonpolice.ca/Communi...seYouLose.aspx

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Prostitution is not a one-dimensional problem. Along with street prostitution is crime, violence, drugs, gang activity and murder. Edmonton Police Service’s Staff Sergeant Brian Nowlan describes the city’s many resources for reducing this destructive activity including “Report-a-John,” project Snug, Bill 206, and the “Bad Date Line.”

Sergeant Nowlan describes prostitution as “a simple case of exploitation.” Technically, prostitution is not illegal in Canada , but the communication - or solicitation - of sex is a criminal offense. Amid rising instances of street worker kidnappings, abuses, and murders, Edmonton communities have sought the help of the Police Service to lower the instances of prostitution.

Specifically, the 118 th Ave corridor has been targeted as having the “highest portion of prostitution” in the city. The “Report-a-John” project will run from 34 th Street to NAIT. The project includes the selective positioning of signs reading “This community does not tolerate prostitution.” Also included on the signs is a phone number that connects directly to the Vice Section of the Edmonton Police Service. Any member of the community concerned with the suspicious activity of a John (someone paying for sex) can call this line to speak to a Police Officer. The license plate number of the suspect is required and as much information about the suspected individual available is appreciated. The Officer will then investigate the vehicle and the listed owner. If the information matches, and the actions indicate illegal activity, a letter of warning is sent to the residence of the vehicle’s registered owner.

In addition to the 33 signs posted along 118 th Ave , “Report-a-John” cards are also available to concerned citizens. These cards request details regarding the whereabouts of the suspicious activity, vehicle information, the type of activity witnessed, and the contact information of the community member filing the report. Cards are available at libraries, convenience stores and police offices in the area. If a John is caught by a police officer, a charge under section 213 of the criminal code will follow. If convicted in a court of law, the John will acquire a criminal record.

Project Snug provides sex-trade workers with an escape from their current situations. Upon being apprehended by police, a prostitute is invited “to make an overt attempt then and there to get off the street.” Professional social workers and interventionists assist the prostitute in finding housing, food and health care. 50% of women who have been apprehended for prostitution have chosen to enter the intervention program. Project Snug has experienced great successes to date and hopes to continue to see positive results.

The Edmonton Police Service’s Vice Section is continually working with several community organizations, including the Prostitution Awareness and Action Foundation of Edmonton. Thanks to the endless support of community organizations and volunteers and involved citizens, Sergeant Nowlan anticipates a dramatically improved situation “just around the corner”

LINK:
www.police.edmonton.ab.ca
Source:
http://www.policychannel.com/?page=v...y_brian_nowlan

[Goddess]

you make me blush lol. the question is when will i make you hot?

i recently wrote a article about the legalization of prostitution and the pro's. in this too it would affect supply and demand therefore affecting the rates. it would be less scam artists and **** girls if business licenses were required. the low end will never go away but it would dissipate some. every city is different. some cities i only use eros. some i use many sites. i find the median between high end and low rates usually works the best. in orlando when you run your rates really really low you bring in a different kind of clientele as well. the man's whole attitute can change and there is less of a respect level. as well as in orlando when you deal with some men off eros, the arrogance and obnoxiousness is disgusting. i have had some of the most unsavory, racist and crappy men off eros. i have learned to bite my tounge i have had men tell me that they won't even see a girl that is offering rates on the low end and i have had wonderful men who have been with me a long time that needed an adjustment to fit into their budget during the economic crisis. sometimes it's just a roll of the dice.

lol. i guess you missed the jimmy carter years. 15% mortgages and 12% unemployment. but as with any economic condition, supply and demand ebbs and flows. at this point in the demand curve, prices should and will fall. there is far more supply than what the average monger is willing to pay for. the laws of supply and demand dictate that prices must fall. most mongers don't have the same disposable income they had a year ago. i am getting $/hour quality deals. i know this upsets some providers, but you can't fight economics. if we pay more, it destroys the delicate balance of ecosystem in central florida. i will pay $$/hr for the very rare exception, but it will be the rare exception. the quality is not suffering, but more to contrary, the quality is improving exponentially.

and yes, the goddess is hot.

wof

[Worldsoffun]

This economy is the worst that I've seen in my lifetime

LOL. I guess you missed the Jimmy Carter years. 15% mortgages and 12% unemployment. But as with any economic condition, supply and demand ebbs and flows. At this point in the demand curve, prices should and will fall. There is far more supply than what the average Monger is willing to pay for. The laws of supply and demand dictate that prices must fall. Most Mongers don't have the same disposable income they had a year ago. I am getting $/hour quality deals. I know this upsets some providers, but you can't fight economics. If we pay more, it destroys the delicate balance of ecosystem in Central Florida. I will pay $$/hr for the very rare exception, but it will be the rare exception. The quality is not suffering, but more to contrary, the quality is improving exponentially.

And yes, the Goddess is hot.

WOF

[PeterPiper52]

I offer bdsm as something different from normal escorting. The economy is not bad everywhere but it's definately slower. I use eros in other cities. In dc 250 a hour is normal, certain men will pay more for that upscale location and less risk. Here I offer specials off this site and to my regulars I am willing to work with. I would prefer to set the price ahead of time. I absolutely will not negotiate in person unless it is a regular. I don't have time for drama with clients. I feel my time is worth what I ask.

I don't think that anyone has an argument about what a provider's time is worth. A provider is free to charge whatever she (or he) pleases. But, the state of this economy has to come into play. This economy is the worst that I've seen in my lifetime, and it doesn't look like it's going to come to an end anytime soon. And even when it does get better, my guess is that most people will be socking away as much as they can in case this happens again.

BTW Goddess. I think that you are absolutely HOT!

[Nefan2975]

The thing I noticed was when things started to get bad, a few ladies lowered their prices, but it was short lived. It seemed like two weeks later everyone was back to their old prices.

I have a limited amount of play money left, and when it's gone, that's it for me.

Lets start it like this I own my own comp I have 25 guys layed half off last week which cut me to the bone I have had these guys with me at least 5-10yrs since I started. Yesterday at a meeting they told me to drop my price by 30% now I have cut my prices to when I was a laborer 15yrs ago I had to tell them to to take a flying leap off the short bridge there is no damn way can't make money like that. Now if they said 12% maybe I could do it but there is only a 15% profit when you have people looking to you for the answer and you don't have have one it hurts becausse these are my friends family and workers it hurts me to see this wherever I turn including here losing a year worth of work is a hard pill for me to swollow.

Sorry about my rant just really stressed out at the moment with no clear answer.

Nefan

[WarpFactor69]

Just out of curiousity. Can the ladies that read this site pm me and let me know how business is? I am having a TERRIBLE month and wanted to know where I stand as opposed to other girls.

Thanks

The thing I noticed was when things started to get bad, a few ladies lowered their prices, but it was short lived. It seemed like two weeks later everyone was back to their old prices.

I have a limited amount of play money left, and when it's gone, that's it for me.

[Goddess]

I offer bdsm as something different from normal escorting. The economy is not bad everywhere but it's definately slower. I use eros in other cities. In dc 250 a hour is normal, certain men will pay more for that upscale location and less risk. Here I offer specials off this site and to my regulars I am willing to work with. I would prefer to set the price ahead of time. I absolutely will not negotiate in person unless it is a regular. I don't have time for drama with clients. I feel my time is worth what I ask.

[Sexybldbbwfl]

I think most girls are offering specials to previous clients and you may have to ask. It is less exposure for them and you both know each other some. You may be surprised if you just ask nicely. And most will not advertise it. just my 2 cents.