Supereloquent's Reports - Philadelphia

[CookyJar]

Gran Lenchote's comment were originally posted and buried in the middle of my 'Best of 2010, ' pictures. I moved it over here so that it could get the exposure it deserves.

Happy Holidays CookyJar.

Let me see if I have this straight. Philadelphia had a poster with 2300+ posts, thousands of pics, and no local love at all. Then one of you kind gentlemen outs this guy, a bunch of people step up to piss on his grave, and then you all live happily ever after? Fuck-and-A you guys don't fuck around! Since you personally seem to be dealing with your loss so well, CookyJar, I was hoping you could shed some light for me. I got to think there is at least one lesson to be learned here.

Potential Lesson: Don't be an Asshole! To put it bluntly, how much of SE's destruction came because he was an asshole? Do you think that DP and Davey nuked SE off because of moral and ethical objections to his behavior, or did they do him in 'cause he was a humorless bastard whom the Admin put off limits to regular criticism? Frankly, it would be pretty arrogant of his outers to think that SE's interaction with SW was explotative, but thiers, was not. Really? It's a morally ambigous game, and we all know that. Regardless, outing breaks a fundamental trust, and is irreconcilable with this mode of civil discourse.

Potential Lesson: Think global, fuck local! Since there has been no hue and no cry, I can only observe that SE supporters are either absent, or laying low. How is the local pulse? Relieved? Rid of a jerk? Or perhaps on some level, concerned? Who's next to be destroyed? Perhaps one's own moral purity is insufficient for some highly ethical members and so one's fate hangs in the balance. Does anyone else find SE's total lack of response, unnatural? Taking this without some sort of response seems unlikely.

Potential Lesson: Golden Eggs and Admin-too much? Do you think the Admin contributed to the problem by making SE sacred? If he could have been criticized, perhaps the aggrieved parties could have expressed themselves less dramatically? If SE was an advertisers cash cow, I guess I can see his protected status, but to his neighbors, it must have grated. Here is this lying, cheating sack of crap, I imagine one of you thinking, and he's getting all this special treatment. How it must have eaten at some, gnawing away until a tipping point was reached, and viola, fratricide.

Potential Lesson: Mind your own fucking business! If most of the readership had been locals, would the dynamic have changed enough that SE could have been dealt with less destructively? If we outsiders had not turned your thread into our entertainment stream, perhaps. Maybe SE could have been ignored or blocked or damn near anything but what happened.

Anyway, just thought I would ask, the worse that can happen is this post never see's the light of day. Oh wait, I guess something worse could happen.

Lencho

Davey and Dark Phoenix are both well respected in the Philadelphia Forum. Even though he may have been provoked, Dark Phoenix's actions are not defensible. It should also be understood that Dark Phoenix acted alone.

CookyJar

[Lunatic2]

Go to Google. Com. Click on 'Images, ' Type in 'Porn. ' That should make you happy. Enjoy!

CookyJar

Usually just a spectator in this forum, you guys have some great stuff, but I have to ask, what the hell happened to SuperE?

[CookyJar]

So now there are no more pictures and just a bunch of guys bashing him.

Go to Google. Com. Click on 'Images, ' Type in 'Porn. ' That should make you happy. Enjoy!

CookyJar

[Malodr]

That's just it. You live in East J-blip. Of cause you don't give a fuck.

If this is supposed to be a forum for helping a bunch of dumb fucks like me find ladies to fuck. What good is out dated information? If the members constantly lie, how can you trust anything their say. Of cause you don't care, you are from out of town. You are not the one putting yourself on the line patrolling in a wild intercity jungle for a girl who may never have been there in the first place. Sure! What do you care?

Why should you be mad, you weren't the one being lied too for no reason? To you it is just good old porn, lots of pretty pictures to whack off too. To us buttheads, living in the Philadelphia area, it was a bunch of lies. I don't know how it is where you come from; I am old school, and I believe a liar is a liar and it does not matter whether they are male or female.

Just stop and think about it for one minute. Lying is one of the worse things you can do to another human being. If you'll lie, you'll cheat and it you'll cheat. You don't love sweet Jesus.

I know the girls lie. They have every reason in their drugged-out world to lie. I expect them to lie. They'll lie behind your back and they'll lie in your face. Also, I am no fool, I know that guys lie. I have said it many times: It is the guys from this site that worry me the most when I am out mongering. Now listen to this. Open your fucking ears and listen. What pissed me off about Supereloquent is that he had no reason to lie. The guy had everything. He had his own thread, he was popular, he could out spell, out grammar and according to him out fuck every fucking body. Like Richard Cory, he had everything, so why lie. He wasn't lying for the drugs or the money and he lied to me while looking me straight in the eye. Why? But, of cause, you don't care. Right!

CookyJar

So now there are no more pictures and just a bunch of guys bashing him.

[Trashed201]

What he have here is an "overly sensitive guy who's nerve I must have struck". Please point out where I said anything about the women being subhuman or that I think they should be mistreated? Please point out where I have put a woman down? You do a pretty good impression of Dr. Phil, but I don't need the therapy. My head is squarely in reality and apparently my own ass as well I guess (thanks Davey).

I just think that these guys who fall in love with SWs have committed a major foul on SuperE and I am expressing my opinion. Usually I don't talk bad about a person's sexual preference because I don't care what other guys are into, but in this case I must because it is part of the problem. You guys who want to be dominated by and submissive to women supported a major breach of good behavior among mongers. Trying to impress and score points with the SWs of your choice so maybe they will realize how truly nice guys you are. Maybe once they realize this they will want to clean up their act and live with you happily ever after and show you how much they appreciate the love you have for them? It didn't work in high school for you or any other time in life and it won't work now for you guys who think like this. And you are not actually nice guys. You are just guys trying to use a different angle to get what you want.

The guys acting gleeful because somebody who may or may not be SuperE had his info posted because he hurt some women's feelings are suckers. This is the age of Facebook. Anyone who has their photo taken knows it could end up anywhere. SWs depending on a promise from a random monger not to post their info is just as stupid as mongers trusting SWs when it comes to personal security, well being, and not telling someone. Having permission to post a photo also doesn't remove the exploitation of the situation. Most of these women who give permission to have their photos taken and posted probably would not do it if they didn't need the money you were offering.

I think it is funny that some of you guys think that you are morally superior to SuperE. Nobody on this board is self-less and truly trying to help the women. If it makes you guys feel better about yourselves to think that what you are doing is OK but what "those other guys" do is bad, so be it, but it is a bunch of crap. You have a financial upperhand on these women and you take advantage of it to get whatever it is you are looking for whether it is sex, emotional validation, a listening ear, etc.

All of you are exploiting these women. You are taking advantage of the harsh realities of capitalist society where there are a lot more people at the bottom than at the top. You can try to spin it anyway you want, but you are exploiting them. If you didn't want to have sex with them they would be like the millions of other people you ignore and don't help in life. If you didn't have enough money and the SWs didn't have a need, the vast majority of these women would not be dealing with any of you guys.

And I have read the Philly forums a lot and there are plenty of guys who "fall in love" with SWs who post. Isn't Davey one of those guys who puts money on the books for girls at the jail / prison? Why don't you or anyone who does the same thing put money on the books for random guys you meet on the streets of Philadelphia? Why not put some money on the books for a women you find completely sexually unappealing? Oh yeah, that's right, you guys do things like that because you care about them as human beings, not because you are attracted to them, want to have sex with them regularly, want them to like you, or any selfish reason like that. You do it to get what you want from them. I am not saying mongering and what anyone does is right or wrong, moral or immoral, I am simply calling it as I see it, but spare me the BS that SuperE is doing something so much different from the rest of you.

I wasn't going to comment about this disgraceful sordid witch hunt till you posted, however your dead on correct and I couldn't resist giving you the proper props! Thanks for not staying away. Hopefully you'll stick around. Next to the legendary Super yours is the most intelligent and accurate post to date! Hell of a job telling it the way it is!

[Member #1759]

I almost wrote something in this thread in support of SuperE. SuperE contributed, but what good is the info it contains lies / misinformation. People lie all the time. Some big lies, some small.

My x-stepdaughter was a pathological liar. She would lie about the strangest things! Some people are actually that demented, they start believing the lies they tell.

Some folks lie to get ahead, some lie in hopes their peers will accept them, some lie because the truth is just too painful.

One thing is for sure, you can only suppress the truth for so long before the truth eventually surfaces.

Happy Holidays to everyone.

Be safe.

Just stop and think about it for one minute. Lying is one of the worse things you can do to another human being. If you'll lie, you'll cheat and it you'll cheat. You don't love sweet Jesus.

I know the girls lie. They have every reason in their drugged-out world to lie. I expect them to lie. They'll lie behind your back and they'll lie in your face. Also, I am no fool, I know that guys lie. I have said it many times: It is the guys from this site that worry me the most when I am out mongering. Now listen to this. Open your fucking ears and listen. What pissed me off about Supereloquent is that he had no reason to lie. The guy had everything. He had his own thread, he was popular, he could out spell, out grammar and according to him out fuck every fucking body. Like Richard Cory, he had everything, so why lie. He wasn't lying for the drugs or the money and he lied to me while looking me straight in the eye. Why? But, of cause, you don't care. Right!

CookyJar

[Mike Sweeney]

As they say down this way,"Have at it boys"

[CookyJar]

I thought Jackson set them up each with their own section and told them not to post in each others? I may be wrong.

You're wrong!!!

[Pkgman]

I think most are missing the point here.

Yes it's not right to out the guy even though he is an asshole, lair, despicable, self centered, egotistical prick.

Blatant violations have occurred and have been reported throughout SE's posting history, way back when he was posting in mutiple cities with false posts. He's been called out many times by senior members and that's why he got his own thread. If you noticed he could only report in his thread and no others, but that didn't stop him from harrassing members that posted in other Philadelphia threads that were at most time not even remotely critical of him or his post. The guy was and is just a fucking asshole.

I still believe outing him is wrong, but hey how many times does a guy like him get a pass.

Just my opinion.

[Pkgman]

2552.

If everyone just followed the fuckin' rules, things would run more smoothly.

Tree no leaves, maybe it's fucking DEAD, who gives a rat's ass anyway.

The rules work both fucking ways. For some reason he had many passes for violating the same very rules that you are fucking talking about. And really why the fuck do you care?

[CookyJar]

SuperE's thread is one of the few I read outside my region...

That's just it. You live in East J-blip. Of cause you don't give a fuck.

If this is supposed to be a forum for helping a bunch of dumb fucks like me find ladies to fuck. What good is out dated information? If the members constantly lie, how can you trust anything their say. Of cause you don't care, you are from out of town. You are not the one putting yourself on the line patrolling in a wild intercity jungle for a girl who may never have been there in the first place. Sure! What do you care?

Why should you be mad, you weren't the one being lied too for no reason? To you it is just good old porn, lots of pretty pictures to whack off too. To us buttheads, living in the Philadelphia area, it was a bunch of lies. I don't know how it is where you come from; I am old school, and I believe a liar is a liar and it does not matter whether they are male or female.

Just stop and think about it for one minute. Lying is one of the worse things you can do to another human being. If you'll lie, you'll cheat and it you'll cheat. You don't love sweet Jesus.

I know the girls lie. They have every reason in their drugged-out world to lie. I expect them to lie. They'll lie behind your back and they'll lie in your face. Also, I am no fool, I know that guys lie. I have said it many times: It is the guys from this site that worry me the most when I am out mongering. Now listen to this. Open your fucking ears and listen. What pissed me off about Supereloquent is that he had no reason to lie. The guy had everything. He had his own thread, he was popular, he could out spell, out grammar and according to him out fuck every fucking body. Like Richard Cory, he had everything, so why lie. He wasn't lying for the drugs or the money and he lied to me while looking me straight in the eye. Why? But, of cause, you don't care. Right!

CookyJar

[Permanent Wood]

2552. Great post and particularly this part.

Anyone who has their photo taken knows it could end up anywhere. SWs depending on a promise from a random monger not to post their info is just as stupid as mongers trusting SWs when it comes to personal security, well being, and not telling someone.

And more sound reasoning:

This guy seem to cut through a lot of bull and get to the point. No disrespect to anyone. I personally wouldn't let no SW sit there and fill me head with some shit about been done wrong by a monger and some pictures. Like I was told in the beginning of this adventure "they all lie" and I believe it. Were letting what a SW say come between us as mongers. Score one for them. Let's get back to quality reporting. I just terminated my membership on another website because all the guys on that website catered to the over priced girls in my area. And when they take over they might as well be called your wives.

SuperE's thread is one of the few I read outside my region, and for a reason, he definitely stands out from the crowd in his contributions to the forum. People seem to scrutinize over what he posts, instead, they should be finding their own SW and posting their own experiences -- readers will gravitate to where they want on their own.

Members who post what they think is someone's personal info based on what a SW said or for ANY reason have done the un-thinkable and are SW pussy-whipped.

If everyone just followed the fuckin' rules, things would run more smoothly.

Tree no leaves, maybe it's fucking DEAD, who gives a rat's ass anyway.

[Malodr]

Why not? The man can post wherever he wants.

I thought Jackson set them up each with their own section and told them not to post in each others? I may be wrong.

[Member #1174]

Why are you posting in his section now?

Why not? The man can post wherever he wants.

[Malodr]

They say that Supereloquent owns one half of this whole town

With political connections to spread his wealth around

Born into society a banker's only child

He had everything a man could want power, grace and style.

The papers print his picture almost everywhere he goes

Supereloquent at the opera, Supereloquent at a show

And the rumor of his parties and the orgies on his yacht

Oh he surely must be happy with everything he's got

He freely gave to charity, he had the common touch

And they were grateful for his patronage and they thanked him very much

So my mind was filled with wonder when the evening headlines read,

" Supereloquent went home last night and put a bullet through his head."

(Dark Phoenix may have pulled the trigger, but it was Supereloquent who supplied the ammo.)

With everything he had going for him, the question remains, why did he have to lie? Why would someone take a picture in January and then lie and say he took it in July. I am not looking for a big debate. I am asking a simple question. Saying that it doesn't matter or that you don't care, does not answer the question. Why would a guy with everything going for him need to lie to a bunch of assholes on a crummy SW porn site?

CookyJar.

PS: The lyrics were borrowed from Paul Simon; who paraphrased them from Arlington Robinson.

Why are you posting in his section now?