Supereloquent's Reports - Philadelphia

**Fbtom** · 04-03-10 16:15

It does seem that the range from avg. to fantastic is very close together though. I'm thinking that anything that is bad can simply be rated as bad. Why elaborate on a scale how bad a bad date is, other than dangerous per your description? Your giving the bad the same range that a good date can have.

Your worded rating system makes sense. Now that I understand it better, it is not a real issue for me. Besides, kind of late in the game for your system to revamp it now, right? Are you going to evaluate the past three plus years all over again? Or just come up with a new system from a certain point forward?

Regardless, keep up the great sw photos and detailed reports!

**Supereloquent** · 04-03-10 15:14

Originally Posted by Fbtom

SuperE, Either you must have been very generous or your rating system of 2-1/2 to 5 needs to be improved. A date this poor by description makes one wonder who would ever get a lower value?

Regardless, thanks for the good report on knowing another to avoid!

I suppose my "rating system" requires further elaboration. To me a "1" is just plain DANGEROUS or potentially harmful/threatening, or to-be avoided-at-all-costs. Only one SW date has ever received the ignominy of that rating and that was bad Katie.

A "2" would be "bad." For a BJ that could mean anything from scraping her teeth on my cock, to barely sucking the tip, to hurrying or wanting me to hurry a LOT, or asking me every minute if I am "ready to cum yet," to perhaps gagging and throwing up all over me and grossing me out. For fucking it could mean anything from having a coochie that smelled worse than a garbage can (which would mean we wouldn't fuck at all without a hot shower and a douche), BO (same solution or no dice) or a cu*nt that was so dry from drugs that it was impenetrable, or the continued and unabated and aggravating hurry-up, or "are you ready to cum yet?" thing. For attitude it could mean anything from a downright nasty disposition, to an extremely demanding and totally inflexible attitude towards the donation. I have actually never encountered any SWs with straight-up ratings of "2" in any category or overall. Maybe that is because I either had a cleansing remedy available in a private room or there was no action taking place. Alternatively, I have avoided the dope sick, had pretty good street radar concerning a pick-up in the first place, and let the few bad decisions I made go before allowing them to suck or fuck me.

Two and a half would appear to have been the rock bottom in my rating system for a SW to make it to sucking and fucking me. She would get that for just "showing up" so to speak, assuming there were no further deductions for the things I mentioned above. A two and a half would be way below average. The rest she needs to earn. A three would be mediocre and below average, a three and a half would be average, a 4 would be above average, a 4 and a half would be way above average and a 5 would be outstanding.

Maybe the words are more descriptive than the numbers, so you bring up a good point, Tom. If you as a regular reader of my posts and a friend and supporter are confused about my rating system then others might be confused as well. I never really gave much thought to what my numbers mean to ME, let alone what they might mean to others until you raised the issue. I will have to give my rating system some serious reflection.

**Jhawk** · 04-03-10 15:13

Originally Posted by Fbtom

SuperE, Either you must have been very generous or your rating system of 2-1/2 to 5 needs to be improved. A date this poor by description makes one wonder who would ever get a lower value?

Regardless, thanks for the good report on knowing another to avoid!

I always assumed that 2 1/2 was the crossover point. 2 1/2 not good but not actually bad. While below that is actually just bad, and gets worse as the rating gets lower. While above that is on the good side and gets better as the rating goes up.

**Tonsil Hockey** · 04-03-10 13:54

Originally Posted by Supereloquent

For someone who doesn't "give a fuck, " you are sure "giving a fuck". LOL

Well aren't you about as obviously envious as it gets? I see your point, though. You want me to do as you say and not as you do. I can't mention a trip to AC, but you can give us mind-bending detail about a boneheaded wild goose chase to the suburbs to give drugs to some chickie you made a connection with through CL? Nobody "gave a fuck" about that either, but it was one of the stupidest things I ever heard. You never even saw the chick, and you were probably lucky you never did, because that was a narc sting if ever I saw one. The only next best thing for you is that it was someone scamming you. Either way, how much dumber could one be to go for such an evident con job?

I DO and lots of it, a lot more than just about everyone in the Philly forum, and an incalculably greater amount than YOU do!

Apparently you don't bank anywhere? Is that a foreign concept to you? Who takes 10 Gs in cash ANYwhere?: Not I, for one. That is unlike SOME people who take 420 and white powder to an anonymous chickie advertising on line. LOL.

Threatening another member of this forum is considered a VERY serious offense of forum rules, let alone to publicly solicit some sort of conspiracy to do so. I suggest you cease and desist from this IMMEDIATELY and avoid even a HINT of such action in the future.

I've been visiting this forum for quite some time now, and of all of those who post, I've found SuperEloquent and Cooky Jar among those posting primo material, with a few close seconds. Maybe it's because I am from the "Dear Penthouse" generation, but I enjoy a well-scripted description of events, and SuperE sure does provide that. Furthermore, I would believe that someone so imaginative with his elaborations within this forum would most likely be quite imaginative "in the field", yielding the most interesting of adventures.

It is a fact that after login, I immediately visit "Supereloquent's Reports", and am almost always enthralled with his exploits.

Although I still can't figure out Super's "five cups" in two hours ability (mine would have either fallen off after three, or zipped my fly back up, reached into my pocket for the cell and dialed 911).

Kudos, and appreciation for a fine job!

**Fbtom** · 04-03-10 13:26

SuperE, Either you must have been very generous or your rating system of 2-1/2 to 5 needs to be improved. A date this poor by description makes one wonder who would ever get a lower value?

Regardless, thanks for the good report on knowing another to avoid!

**Supereloquent** · 04-03-10 11:53

Originally Posted by CookyJar

There is no secret to it. I try to be honest and straight forward. I always tell them what I plan to do with their pictures. Most of them have already heard about me before I pick them up.

I use the same approach, but I never tell them who I am. Maybe THAT's the secret! Or maybe not; who knows?; maybe that would make them even more adamantly against pics, LOL. Maybe it wouldn't make a particle bit of difference because I am not nearly the legend that Cooky is, and deserves to be. Nonetheless, Cooky, I concede that your ability to charm them is most certainly better than mine, although I have been no slouch in getting many of them to agree.

Originally Posted by CookyJar

There is one other thing. I treat the girl just like what they are – people. They are no better or worse than me; that is the way I treat all women.

I totally agree with you there. I have received many compliments from SW photo subjects that I made them feel at ease and comfortable, not only for photos, but for anything else we did. I have also received many compliments on my "photographic direction," such as it is. I let the girls preview their pics and virtually all feel that the angles, poses, etc. flatter them, by and large, even the spread, fingering and BJ shots. Neither photography, nor my sexual desires nor my penchant for dirty talk have anything to do with degrading another human being, although anything can be interpreted any way one chooses to interpret it. For me, it is all about hot eroticism. I try to treat others as I would like to think others would treat me in like circumstances (yes, and that includes hot photography or filthy dirty talking or anything else we voluntarily either or both choose to do).

Originally Posted by CookyJar

During my second visit with Andrea, she said that she liked the fact that I did not make her feel like a ***** when I took her pictures. Her saying that kind of took me back; I’d never given it that much thought.

I have been told that a lot, including by Andrea, who was having a lot of fun posing, sucking and fucking, even if she rushed it at the end after 2 cups, LOL. Maybe such remarks about me are true and maybe they aren't. Maybe it's what some SWs tell you to make you feel good; after all, they are paid (Oops, I meant to say that SOME are, I am one of the lucky ones who gets it for free

) to do that physically, so why not psychologically? I hadn't and haven't ever given that much thought either. I am just the way I am.

Originally Posted by CookyJar

Kate denied me access the first time we meant. She had a big ole red zit on her cheek. LOL

SWs have vanity, just as most women do (and men too). I would have to say that having a big ugly zit or a facial injury or a bad hair day are primary reasons a SW often denies a photo session. She wants to look her best.

**Supereloquent** · 04-02-10 23:03

From a classic Ella Fitzgerald lyric: “ Into each life some rain must fall.” I suppose this applies to SW experiences as well.

I was given Chrissy’s number by another monger. He volunteered the information to me in a PM and I don’t blame him for a bad referral. His experience with her was obviously different. YMMV always applies.

I called Chrissy one day just to try someone new. Either the connection was bad or she sounded like she had a mouthful of marbles, but I could barely make out what she was saying. We made an appointment for 30 minutes from then and I got directions from her. It is a classic stereotype, but you know what it is like to get usual directions from a female. She will direct you by landmarks and nearby stores, etc., whereas a male will usually tell you the route or street, the direction, the mileage, the intersection, etc. I am not a stupid person but the “directions” she provided got me nowhere near where she was, and I had to re-call her to get the specific nearest intersection, instead of all the landmark mumbo-jumbo. It turns out she had been directing me up the right street, but to the wrong place on the street. So what else is new?

When I finally arrived at the location where she was waiting for me, I suggested an indoor date. Why I did that is anyone’s guess, because my street radar was telling me that this one was going to be a bust. It would have been much smarter to try her out first as a car date. Chalk one up for the little head. Sooner or later I will learn my lesson. Chrissy proceeded to tell me that her expected donation would be 2X for an indoor date, as opposed to X for a car date. Why this premium was warranted is beyond me. Maybe her mouth and cu*nt are worth more indoors, at least in her own opinion. I was getting a bad feeling, and I was ready to just cut my losses before they even started, take her back to where I had picked her up, and go back to the K. However, I told her flat out that X would be the starting number with a tip if service was outstanding. So, she could either decide to earn an incentive the good old fashioned American way or go back empty handed.

She agreed to X with an incentive, and she suggested a notel, which I knew to be 3 times the cost of another nearby notel with which I was quite familiar. Either she didn’t know the notels in her own vicinity very well, or didn’t give a shit, because it was my money we were spending, or maybe both. In any event, we went with my notel choice. On the drive, Chrissy was quiet and not very warm and friendly. Everything in my big head intuition was screaming to deep-six this whole thing, but hope springs eternal for the little head, as we all know.

We arrived at the room and I started to take some pics. Even though we had agreed to this as part of the deal, she soon got antsy about it and just wanted to get down to business. She started to suck my cock and it was pretty mediocre, even though she had bragged how good she was. I took a few pics of that, but she very quickly told me no more of those. I guess she really wasn’t clued in to the concept of earning an incentive. I was so glad it was on that basis, because this gal was turning out to be ho-hum average in so many ways.

On the way to the notel she was telling me that she walks the streets of that area (very northern Frankford Ave) and there was very little competition except for some skanky ho druggies. I guess her marketing sense was intact in that context, but she wouldn’t hold a candle to most of the SWs on the K, either in terms of looks or talent, no matter what she thinks.

Her face was rather average as was her body. She is young but not what one would call extremely pretty and her belly is unattractively paunchy. The funny thing is that she thought she was hot. She obviously has no basis for comparison. Her sucking was wooden as was her fucking. She couldn’t wait to finish the BJ so she could move right along to the main event, such as it was. It was like fucking the dead; she was totally unresponsive. I have enjoyed better hand job fantasies in the shower.

I usually am interested in multiple-cups with a SW date but this was the SW version of Coyote Ugly. If my arm would have been stuck underneath her, I would have chewed it off to get the hell out of there. Needless to say, she didn’t earn any incentives.

Ratings? Face: 3 stars (and I am being generous); Body; 3 stars (more generosity); BJ: 2 ½ stars (the only thing worse might have been if she scraped her teeth on me); Fucking: 2 ½ stars (the only positive thing is that I busted a nut; but now I know what necrophilia is like); Attitude: 2 ½ stars (not totally bad but just barely above it); Overall: 2 ½ stars (sub-par all the way); Repeatable? Not even at ¼ X. YMMV

**Supereloquent** · 04-02-10 18:58