Safe Mongering in Honolulu

[AmpAddict808]

Commenting on your final paragraph; you may not have carefully considered the ultimate ramifications of electing to go total BB; the dark side of "I wouldn't give a shit". I understand you have no real intention of actually doing this. Even so, that "I wouldn't give a shit" attitude deserves some scrutiny: If you went totally BB and never caught anything, all well and good. But BB is always a roll of the dice. What if you did catch something? Now it isn't just all about you and your personal pleasure any more. Now you have to consider that if you continue having sex with providers, you could pass your infection to one or more of them. For us mongers this is simply a hobby, but for the providers it's their means of making a living. You could literally destroy a life or three with your thoughtless ego-driven actions. Add to this, the fact you could be the cause of having assisted in spreading the infection to your brother mongers via providers you infected. Nobody really wants to think about this dark side, but I'm here to tell you, it happens. I was just damned lucky all I caught was HPV genital warts. But no matter; I still have had to voluntarily give up all mongering activities or face the guilty consequences of my selfish actions.

I don't drink alcohol, and don't have that problem. But I believe I can almost imagine what it must be like for an alcoholic in recovery to wake up every morning and want to take a drink, and have to summon up the will-power not to do it. Every day I think about going mongering and cannot. In fact never again if I can't figure out how to eliminate this virus from my body.

I think you misinterpreted. Basically meant I wouldn't give a shit worrying about catching anything for myself. Of course, if I knew I caught something I surely would not intentionally pass it on to providers. But there's always a latency period before noticing symptoms of any STD (bacterial or viral) when going BBFS and if banging daily, something will get passed on without a mongerer's knowledge until after getting symptoms. But some STDs may not give any obvious symptoms either.

[WaikikiBeAC]

To the young monger worried about catching something. Don't worry, be Happy.

Worst case you end up like magic Johnson and live 30+ years with HIV. You know Magic is still pounding girls, wonder how many girls he has infected since he found out he was HIV positive? And yet EVERYBODY loves Magic in LA. I bet Magic is going to out live some of the mongers on this board and probably already has out lived some mongers here.

Most likely case, you take a pill or get a shot and are out of commission (aka no sex) a couple weeks. Then its like riding a bike again. You get on and start peddling, maybe you fall again but you just pick yourself up and start riding again.

[Cosmic Kid]

Nothing beats going BB sex but I refrain from BB (even BBBJ) with sex providers. My reason is I'm a single guy and always open to striking up an intimate relationship with a non-provider girl if things happened. It can happen quickly and would have no time to get checked out if I'm clean. I certainly would want to be sure I'm clean and not worry for my part if it ends up as no condom spontaneous sex. And if I caught something, then I'd know it was from her. If a provider leads you to believe that she only does BB with you, can you really believe that? Also, there are some guys that tip a hell of a lot more than the regular customer and I'm sure the chances of BBFS service happening there goes up. Not every provider would turn down a $500 or $1 K tip for BBFSCIP with a repeating customer. Same guys that can wager $5-10 K a night at the crap tables on a Vegas trip (which is really not that extreme for the guys making good money or with an inheritance).

I would not do BB with providers if I were having BB sex with an SO or GF. Would be totally irresponsible of me even if the relationship sucks. In addition to being unfaithful, it's also risking her health.

But if I was never going to have a GF, then I wouldn't give a shit and I'd be out there doing BB sex with providers. Haha, I think my AMP challenge would then be seeing what it takes to get BBFS from a provider who normally does not do BBFS.

Commenting on your final paragraph; you may not have carefully considered the ultimate ramifications of electing to go total BB; the dark side of "I wouldn't give a shit". I understand you have no real intention of actually doing this. Even so, that "I wouldn't give a shit" attitude deserves some scrutiny: If you went totally BB and never caught anything, all well and good. But BB is always a roll of the dice. What if you did catch something? Now it isn't just all about you and your personal pleasure any more. Now you have to consider that if you continue having sex with providers, you could pass your infection to one or more of them. For us mongers this is simply a hobby, but for the providers it's their means of making a living. You could literally destroy a life or three with your thoughtless ego-driven actions. Add to this, the fact you could be the cause of having assisted in spreading the infection to your brother mongers via providers you infected. Nobody really wants to think about this dark side, but I'm here to tell you, it happens. I was just damned lucky all I caught was HPV genital warts. But no matter; I still have had to voluntarily give up all mongering activities or face the guilty consequences of my selfish actions.

I don't drink alcohol, and don't have that problem. But I believe I can almost imagine what it must be like for an alcoholic in recovery to wake up every morning and want to take a drink, and have to summon up the will-power not to do it. Every day I think about going mongering and cannot. In fact never again if I can't figure out how to eliminate this virus from my body.

[ItchyAchy]

Go online and do some reading about the subject. Educate yourself, please. Weigh the risks, and make your own decision. After all, it's your body.

As for your last sentence, I'm withholding comment.

I tried to email you but your thing is full.

This is a forum and a discussion board. Perhaps some have some experiences. I think we are all aware of the statistics.

If I seem ignorant, sorry to you. I'm trying to get educated on this. Your post is pretty shitty and unnecessary.

[DangerBoy]

I know was either in the newspaper or possibly Civil Beat or other online news. Hawaii healthcare providers are worried. Starting to see resistant strains in Hawaii.

My understanding is that most of these antibiotic-resistant strains are originating in SE Asia and China.

[Blake123]

Guys, I'm new to this hobby and while I don't care for condoms, I see their necessity.

Is the scare overhyped though? I mean if you think about the statistics and the number of fine older providers here I've read about and their BB practices, if we assume they don't carry any of the major STDs like herpes, AIDs or hepatitis. Excluding warts since that virus seems pandemic.

How is that providers whove been doing this for so long in BB mode. How did they avoid getting STDs over the years?

Go online and do some reading about the subject. Educate yourself, please. Weigh the risks, and make your own decision. After all, it's your body.

As for your last sentence, I'm withholding comment.

[AmpAddict808]

Nothing beats going BB sex but I refrain from BB (even BBBJ) with sex providers. My reason is I'm a single guy and always open to striking up an intimate relationship with a non-provider girl if things happened. It can happen quickly and would have no time to get checked out if I'm clean. I certainly would want to be sure I'm clean and not worry for my part if it ends up as no condom spontaneous sex. And if I caught something, then I'd know it was from her. If a provider leads you to believe that she only does BB with you, can you really believe that? Also, there are some guys that tip a hell of a lot more than the regular customer and I'm sure the chances of BBFS service happening there goes up. Not every provider would turn down a $500 or $1 K tip for BBFSCIP with a repeating customer. Same guys that can wager $5-10 K a night at the crap tables on a Vegas trip (which is really not that extreme for the guys making good money or with an inheritance).

I would not do BB with providers if I were having BB sex with an SO or GF. Would be totally irresponsible of me even if the relationship sucks. In addition to being unfaithful, it's also risking her health.

But if I was never going to have a GF, then I wouldn't give a shit and I'd be out there doing BB sex with providers. Haha, I think my AMP challenge would then be seeing what it takes to get BBFS from a provider who normally does not do BBFS.

[SureYourRight]

This is happening with many treatments in the medical community. There is a large concern that due to our overuse of antibiotics diseases may eventually become immune to all (current) antibiotic treatment. You can read about it if you want to do a bit of Google-fu. I remember buying a book on this topic at the airport in 2009 and some doctors were already raising the alarm about drug resistant viruses. This is part of the United States pill epidemic.

[Ulchiro]

This has been a thing for awhile. From Scientific American, July 15,2016: "Gonorrhea May Soon Be Resistant to all Antibiotics".

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...l-antibiotics/

I know was either in the newspaper or possibly Civil Beat or other online news. Hawaii healthcare providers are worried. Starting to see resistant strains in Hawaii.

[StangBang]

This has been a thing for awhile. From Scientific American, July 15,2016: "Gonorrhea May Soon Be Resistant to all Antibiotics".

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...l-antibiotics/

Hawaii has been ranked #1 for a while for resistant gonorrhea?

[DangerBoy]

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/3...tant-gonorrhea

This has been a thing for awhile. From Scientific American, July 15,2016: "Gonorrhea May Soon Be Resistant to all Antibiotics".

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...l-antibiotics/

[Blake123]

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/3...tant-gonorrhea

[Redneck 1]

I've always wondered about girls who were CFS only that switch to allowing BBFS regularly. Did they just change their mind and expand their menu? Or did they catch something and no longer care? Always makes me nervous. Doesn't stop me from BBFS sometimes though! *crosses fingers*.

Personally, I think that the primary motivation for most of the providers who switch is one of the most powerful motivations in the world: Money. Especially as providers become older and less attractive, they can make more money as an accommodating BBFS-available provider rather than as a strict CFS-only provider, because BBFS is more enjoyable and exciting (both physically and psychologically) for many customers. Of course, there may be some nervous CFS-only customers who will stop visiting a provider who switches from CFS-only to BBFS-available, but the potential loss of those customers will almost certainly be more than offset by gaining BBFS customers.

In most cases, I don't think the "catch something and no longer care" scenario would be the primary cause of the switch. In the first place, catching an STD would be less likely (although not impossible) for a CFS-only provider. Second, most STDs are troublesome but non-permanent if medically treated, so if a provider caught a non-permanent STD that wouldn't be a logical reason for her to then increase her risk of catching that same STD again or catching some other (possibly permanent) STD. Third, even if a provider caught a non-curable STD, that wouldn't be a rational basis for her to raise her risk of catching another STD. For example, most providers wouldn't think "Hey, I've already caught genital herpes, so why not substantially increase my risk of catching syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia".

[P Venkman]

The other thing besides the comments others have posted is that if these meds are like other meds they work for some people and for other people they don't. I don't think any med is 100% effective all the time. You don't want to be the one who gets the particular viris that is resistant to the meds.

Not telling anyone to do anything but how would catching the new drug resistant gonorrhea make you feel? https://www.nbcnews.com/health/sexua...ns-now-n642161.

[JimBoyden]

Not sure why people are worried about Bareback. Just look at Magic Johnson, that guy has been living with HIV / AIDS for over 20 years and nothing is wrong with him, looks really healthy. So do not worry about diseases it is just society trying to scare you so you don't see working girls. If you do catch something all you do is take a few pills and its gone, worst case you get HIV and will live 20-30 years like Magic Johnson I. E. A normal and healthy life.

Don't let society scare you about STD's or HIV / AIDS its not like the movies where Hollywood is trying to promote an agenda for the Government and regulate our morales. YOLO like Magic Johnson.

The other thing besides the comments others have posted is that if these meds are like other meds they work for some people and for other people they don't. I don't think any med is 100% effective all the time. You don't want to be the one who gets the particular viris that is resistant to the meds.