Safe Mongering in Honolulu

[Botoman]

Posted this question in Sugar baby thread but maybe this is more appropriate:

I've been browsinf HPD arrest logs recently (public information that is posted every day) and I've noticed a trend of prostitution arrests at 145X Ala Moana Blvd, which is the address of ala Moana mall. Does anyone have any info on this? Is there a specific location at the mall that LE is using to catch mongers?

This worries me because I usually do my M&Gs at the the mall food court or the Macy's Starbucks. I never talk explicitly about money for sex, but I would hate to be entrapped and embarrassed.

What's the website or best way to find it?

[Prudential808]

Almost every week raids.

In many cases, organised prostitution raids or johns sting used to follow it.

Sit your butts on Christmas dinner table at home watching local tv show.

[Darkman808]

Maybe LE internet stings with M&Gs also at Ala Moana? All they have to do is get a verbal agreement for exchange of money for sex.

I know exactly what this is.

LE set you up to 'meet' your date at the pedestrian bridge from Ala Moana Mall (near Macy's end on second floor) that takes you into lobby of Ala Moana Hotel second floor lobby. It's where I got busted years ago in reverse sting.

You meet your date outside in public where (she tells you in phone call earlier) "I feel safe".

So you show up and see her. Your standing outside and chatting, she's asking 20 questions and all the while you don't see the security camera above watching and recording everything. She tells you she has a room upstairs but screens you first downstairs outside. Once you "commit to paying" her price using certain words, they got you. She says, "Ok, let's go upstairs!" With a smile and you walk in together. Once inside the lobby she starts walking faster way ahead of you and you're kinda distracted, like "what is she doing?

Suddenly you realize two local guys (undercover cops) walk up and get in your face and each guy grabs your arms to ensure you don't run away. Then they flash badges so you k ow you're not being set up fir a genuine robbery. Then they inform somebody else by hand held radio "Ok, we got him!

Meanwhile, the girl disappears. You don't see her again until you show up for your court date.

Listen to your gut. If you think something is fishy, it is. Shut up, turn around and run away. Don't look back.

[Idusixtyning]

Posted this question in Sugar baby thread but maybe this is more appropriate:

I've been browsinf HPD arrest logs recently (public information that is posted every day) and I've noticed a trend of prostitution arrests at 145X Ala Moana Blvd, which is the address of ala Moana mall. Does anyone have any info on this? Is there a specific location at the mall that LE is using to catch mongers?

This worries me because I usually do my M&Gs at the the mall food court or the Macy's Starbucks. I never talk explicitly about money for sex, but I would hate to be entrapped and embarrassed.

Maybe LE internet stings with M&Gs also at Ala Moana? All they have to do is get a verbal agreement for exchange of money for sex.

[MitsFunai]

If something happen at the place / personage of mongering (like at CP) you better wish no more your number, photo, and other identifying instruments for the investigators to find. Just one suggestion but up to you; do what you (or they) want.

[JackMayhoff]

Posted this question in Sugar baby thread but maybe this is more appropriate:

I've been browsinf HPD arrest logs recently (public information that is posted every day) and I've noticed a trend of prostitution arrests at 145X Ala Moana Blvd, which is the address of ala Moana mall. Does anyone have any info on this? Is there a specific location at the mall that LE is using to catch mongers?

This worries me because I usually do my M&Gs at the the mall food court or the Macy's Starbucks. I never talk explicitly about money for sex, but I would hate to be entrapped and embarrassed.

[NerdFriday]

An investigator somehow got hold of my burner number! Likely from the call records from some previous busts.

He called and asked who I was! I gave no info. I don't mind answering unknown numbers on my burner, it's expendable.

Just my friendly reminder that YOU MUST ALWAYS USE HAVE AN EXPENDABLE PHONE NUMBER FOR MONGERING!

Just buy a SIM card online and use it on an unlocked phone. Both can be had online for cheap. Doesn't have to be a smart phone. Old flip phone actually better because no Google / Apple account to log in with.

Activate the SIM card preferably using only the phone, avoid activating it online, or at least use a VPN when doing so. Only refill the account using prepaid cards paid only with cash.

Never have anything related to you connected to that burner number. No ISP information, no payment information, no activation information.

You don't need to take it that far at all. There is a much easier and probably cheaper way to get an actual burner phone and not having to rely on a VOIP one.

You can buy an actual burner phone for like $30 using cash and buy the time / data cards also using cash. After they activate it at the register, all you need to do is go home, go to the phones website and redeem the time / data card. As long as you engage in safe practices and don't to things like allow your physical location to be exposed, or engage in serious crimes which make investigators want to fully pursue you, you will be mostly safe.

[DreamGirls100]

An investigator somehow got hold of my burner number! Likely from the call records from some previous busts.

He called and asked who I was! I gave no info. I don't mind answering unknown numbers on my burner, it's expendable.

Just my friendly reminder that YOU MUST ALWAYS USE HAVE AN EXPENDABLE PHONE NUMBER FOR MONGERING!

Just buy a SIM card online and use it on an unlocked phone. Both can be had online for cheap. Doesn't have to be a smart phone. Old flip phone actually better because no Google / Apple account to log in with.

Activate the SIM card preferably using only the phone, avoid activating it online, or at least use a VPN when doing so. Only refill the account using prepaid cards paid only with cash.

Never have anything related to you connected to that burner number. No ISP information, no payment information, no activation information.

Don't be too picky. Find nice one who can stay in hawaii out of AMP, with good personality.

Many AMPs, maybe almost 90%, will shut down. Owners will not have to keep business when opening means only sacrificing herself for landlord and working girls while owner take debt. Not cause of raid, but cause of economy recession from virus.

Phone or messenger like kik, snapchat.

For first timers to escort cruising is not easy. A lot of uncles and scammers and rip offs. If you don't know how to detect, go for AMP pros that can work outside. Build trust that you don't cheat and are not difficult. When hotties left hawaii and decent restaurants close, plain Chinese, korean, thai pick up option may be the only for many.

[MegaRat]

An investigator somehow got hold of my burner number! Likely from the call records from some previous busts.

He called and asked who I was! I gave no info. I don't mind answering unknown numbers on my burner, it's expendable.

Just my friendly reminder that YOU MUST ALWAYS USE HAVE AN EXPENDABLE PHONE NUMBER FOR MONGERING!

Just buy a SIM card online and use it on an unlocked phone. Both can be had online for cheap. Doesn't have to be a smart phone. Old flip phone actually better because no Google / Apple account to log in with.

Activate the SIM card preferably using only the phone, avoid activating it online, or at least use a VPN when doing so. Only refill the account using prepaid cards paid only with cash.

Never have anything related to you connected to that burner number. No ISP information, no payment information, no activation information.

[MegaRat]

Has anyone ever been caught in act by LE or investigators?

A monger was questioned by investigators after leaving a place named after a shape with 5 points and a color.

[Cosmic Kid]

Good info here. Thanks.

If we are talking about the Kings above Imanas restaurant, there are actually two stairs, the one on the left side of the building is much more discreet.

If you're in the parking area and facing that building, the stairs on the left are much more discreet because they're entirely interior. Soon as you walk in the ground-level entrance door to those stairs, you are hidden from public eye, and up the stairs you go, and Kings is on that end of the building too, so soon as you get to the top of the stairs there's Kings door. On the other hand, the stairs on the right side of the building are entirely out in the open, visible for anyone to see, and when you arrive at the top of those stairs, then you have to walk all the way back along the walkway to the other end of the building where Kings stay, and once again, during that transit, you are visible all the way along that walkway. The only problem with the interior stairs on the left side of the building is that occasionally the ground-level entrance door is locked.

[Drake678]

Search warrant is issued? Then if you are in the wrong place at wring time, forget blah blah constitutional right debate at that moment. That plcae is already allowed to get investigated by LE.

You a unlucky man. Just be cooperative and calm down. Say nothing. Unless you are asked, do not imagine fight for your right at that moment, it is your attorney's job if you're charged or asked to show up later. (Not sure how often that happen, in mailand yes a lot. One of my friend was at that moment in las vegas raid and was sent to detention center for hours but at that day, he was released cause judge saw nothing wrong with him).

Raid for prostitution case is all dependent on state's policy.

But search warrant isseued?? Just keep calm and be cooperative to LE.

So if the place is being raided with a warrant then that's one of those situations.

[Drake678]

Yes, they can detain you.

Don't argue with them.

There are only two simple rules you need to remember.

1. Ask for a lawyer.

2. Say absolutely nothing else until you get your lawyer.

Good advice. If you cannot afford a lawyer will a lawyer be provided for you? I've heard that before. If you cannot afford to pay for one they provide one for you.

[Captain Nemo]

I'll answer my own question after some experiences.

Nabi at night, your car can blend in with the other parked cars, and when the other neighboring business are closed you can walk up the stairs without being seen, word of caution, there might be a homeless person sleeping under or at the bottom of the stairs. Definitely not discreet walking up the stairs during day.

At Plus Spa at night your car is blended if you can park at the street, not very discreet walking up the stairs in the day time.

Kison (or whatever new place takes is place) is very discreet during the day (your parked car is blended), but not so much at night as your car might be the only one around.

Happiness seems to be the last discreet place all time around because there always people hanging around the stairs. Better to park at the street at night to blend the car in.

Blue Star has no parking, but at least has a back door to get in, and when exiting you can easily blend in with the walking crowd.

For Sakura, you have to walk up 3 floors of open stairs. Low traffic area at night. Open parking in this residential area.

Kings Massage, there's only one stairs up to the place, and it's near a restaurant. But at night the area is low traffic.

Good info here. Thanks.

If we are talking about the Kings above Imanas restaurant, there are actually two stairs, the one on the left side of the building is much more discreet.

[MegaRat]

Hi, a month ago, I had a dental implant inserted, I only have the screw in my gums. I don't have the abutment and I don't have any crown and any false tooth yet. The implant is in my right side of my mouth, the upper side, near the wisdom tooth. How long do I have to wait if I want to engage in oral sex.

I am going to ask my dentist, but he is in vacation. I have to wait for him to come back. In the meantime, if someone could help me. I will gladly appreciate it. Any information will be valuable.

If it's still an exposed wound, then it's not recommended for your safety. But you should be fine if you don't have any open cuts, sores, or anything exposing your blood inside your mouth.

Disclaimer: I have a medical science background, but I'm not a dentist.