Safe Mongering in Honolulu

[H Mobius]

Syphillis is on the rise among the MSM population. Here's a recent CDC link: https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...evention.html..

There's always the possibility that there a few local bisexual mongerers out there or tourist customers that are (from the mainland or other countries). If going to the trouble of getting tested, might as well test for everything if doing uncovered sex. I'd think that telling Diamond Head that you regularly have sex with prostitutes without using condoms might cause them to test for S. S is simple to treat if caught early but a pretty wicked STD if left untreated.

I told them that but they still didn't think it was a big deal, since they assume the women are straight. We have no idea about the rest of the masses that see those same women though; that's when the guy looked surprised. But yeah like Dickie says could be due to funding, so DHHS refers out.

[H Mobius]

It is definitely possible to get S without having G or C. It's just that Syphilis is just not that common now, so that's why they don't test for it as often. At the free clinics, it is all about funding and budget so they will only test for the most common STIs which are C and G right now. However I guess they figure if you have one of those, the odds of having another STI are greater, so that's why the S test is recommended if you are positive for C or G. You can always get the S test at a regular doctor or paid clinic, or one of those mail order at home testing kits. I suspect even at your own Doc's they'll ask why you want to get it. Seems like you kind of ran into that already in discussing with your doc.

Ah yes, of course. Good answer, thanks.

[Idusixtyning]

Diamond Head only tested me for gonorrhea and chlamydia. I'm considered "low risk" because I only have sex with women. I guess if you want more testing you have to tell them during the brief interview, that you have sex with men and / or trannies, and / or you use IV drugs.

Syphillis is on the rise among the MSM population. Here's a recent CDC link: https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...evention.html..

There's always the possibility that there a few local bisexual mongerers out there or tourist customers that are (from the mainland or other countries). If going to the trouble of getting tested, might as well test for everything if doing uncovered sex. I'd think that telling Diamond Head that you regularly have sex with prostitutes without using condoms might cause them to test for S. S is simple to treat if caught early but a pretty wicked STD if left untreated.

[Little Dickie]

Is it possible to have S but not G or C? S has 3 stages; what if by the time they decide to test you for S, it is far along already...

The question I posed (from the monger perspective), was that although I may be low risk, the AMP girls have sex literally thousands of times a year, with many guys who are high risk because of the other types of providers they see. He apparently was not a monger and this concept seemed to be an eye opener.

It is definitely possible to get S without having G or C. It's just that Syphilis is just not that common now, so that's why they don't test for it as often. At the free clinics, it is all about funding and budget so they will only test for the most common STIs which are C and G right now. However I guess they figure if you have one of those, the odds of having another STI are greater, so that's why the S test is recommended if you are positive for C or G. You can always get the S test at a regular doctor or paid clinic, or one of those mail order at home testing kits. I suspect even at your own Doc's they'll ask why you want to get it. Seems like you kind of ran into that already in discussing with your doc.

[H Mobius]

They only test for G and C though, because I am considered "low risk. " I think if you test positive for G or C they will then want to test you for Syphilis.

Is it possible to have S but not G or C? S has 3 stages; what if by the time they decide to test you for S, it is far along already...

The question I posed (from the monger perspective), was that although I may be low risk, the AMP girls have sex literally thousands of times a year, with many guys who are high risk because of the other types of providers they see. He apparently was not a monger and this concept seemed to be an eye opener.

[Idusixtyning]

Yup. Many years ago, DHC did full-on HIV testing anonymous and free, so they were always crowded and the wait was for hours; first you had to wait to tell the front lady why you're there, then go back to your seat and wait again for the actual interview with the counselor and test. It was not the home test device (they weren't available back then), it was a blood draw and it got sent out for ELISA and Western-Blot testing as indicated.

I went there many years ago too when they did the free and anonymous HIV testing. It was crowded in the waiting room. Some people even had to wait outside. All I remember during the long wait was that I was having an amusing time observing the various people coming and going, especially the females. LOL. So I was kind of having an okay time up until I got called for my testing. Those days they would stick a swab up your dick that hurt like hell for the G & C testing. I recall having to wait at least a week or two before calling in for the HIV result using an ID number assigned to my test.

[Little Dickie]

As far as I know, they just do the HIV and Hep C test at Life foundation. I've read here in the past about waiting for hours at Diamond Head but I haven't seen that in person. I've been there 3 times and it was always in and out for me. No lines, no waiting. Walk in, sit down answer some questions, piss in a cup, and leave. I guess I got lucky. Maybe it's a time of day thing, or time of month, or day of the week. For what it's worth I have always gone late in the day (like after 3:30 pm) and always mid week (Tues-Thur.) Diamond Head only tested me for gonorrhea and chlamydia. I'm considered "low risk" because I only have sex with women. I guess if you want more testing you have to tell them during the brief interview, that you have sex with men and / or trannies, and / or you use IV drugs. The last time I went to DH clinic, did the piss test for G and C, then went straight to Life Foundation for HIV and Hep C tests. Both were really quick and painless. The DH results you get in about 3 days, and the Life Foundation results in 15 minutes.

As far as other options I have heard and read that Planned Parenthood, and the Waikiki Health Center does testing. No personal experience. Of course there is always your personal physician.

Just got tested again yesterday. Went to Diamond Head Health Center at 3 pm. Nobody in the waiting room. In and out in 5 minutes. That included the quick interview and piss in a cup. Results in 7 to 10 days by text or email. They only test for G and C though, because I am considered "low risk. " I think if you test positive for G or C they will then want to test you for Syphilis. They do ask for photo ID. Personally I have no problem giving it to them. They obviously have to keep everything confidential. Others may want to be more discrete and anonymous. I don't know how you do that. Maybe give them a fake name and tell them you lost your ID? You still need a working email address and/or phone number, because that is how you will get the results.

From there I drove straight to Life Foundation and got there right before their cutoff time of 4 pm. (They close at 5 pm but usually don't test after 4.) Got my HIV and Hep C test. 25 minutes total time from parking my car, to returning to my car. The test takes about 15 to 20 minutes for them to read. Quick finger prick blood test they read right there and give you results. Quick form to fill out and a short verbal interview. They do ask for your name on the form but they don't ask for ID there, so you could use a fake name. I didn't. Free condoms and lube available. The lady at the desk and the Mahu that did the blood test and the interview were nice, courteous and professional.

I recommend both places and will continue going there for my testing.

[H Mobius]

As far as I know, they just do the HIV and Hep C test at Life foundation. I've read here in the past about waiting for hours at Diamond Head but I haven't seen that in person. I've been there 3 times and it was always in and out for me. No lines, no waiting. Walk in, sit down answer some questions, piss in a cup, and leave. I guess I got lucky. Maybe it's a time of day thing, or time of month, or day of the week. For what it's worth I have always gone late in the day (like after 3:30 pm) and always mid week (Tues-Thur.) Diamond Head only tested me for gonorrhea and chlamydia. I'm considered "low risk" because I only have sex with women. I guess if you want more testing you have to tell them during the brief interview, that you have sex with men and / or trannies, and / or you use IV drugs. The last time I went to DH clinic, did the piss test for G and C, then went straight to Life Foundation for HIV and Hep C tests. Both were really quick and painless. The DH results you get in about 3 days, and the Life Foundation results in 15 minutes.

As far as other options I have heard and read that Planned Parenthood, and the Waikiki Health Center does testing. No personal experience. Of course there is always your personal physician.

Yup. Many years ago, DHC did full-on HIV testing anonymous and free, so they were always crowded and the wait was for hours; first you had to wait to tell the front lady why you're there, then go back to your seat and wait again for the actual interview with the counselor and test. It was not the home test device (they weren't available back then), it was a blood draw and it got sent out for ELISA and Western-Blot testing as indicated. Now they only do that if your test turns up "reactive". Probably, a lot of people just do the home test themselves and see their doctor if it 'reacts'.

The mahu counselor at WHC was actually quite good, but the girls behind the front windows were the worst; that is why I won't go there. But yeah, no judging from the counselor and it is better if you admit what you do.

[Little Dickie]

The Life Foundation webscite says they do HIV and some Hep tests but no mention of other STDs. Do they do the regular clam, gon, syph, etc tests too or just HIV? I don't dig waiting at Diamond Head Clinic for hours.

Any other options?

As far as I know, they just do the HIV and Hep C test at Life foundation. I've read here in the past about waiting for hours at Diamond Head but I haven't seen that in person. I've been there 3 times and it was always in and out for me. No lines, no waiting. Walk in, sit down answer some questions, piss in a cup, and leave. I guess I got lucky. Maybe it's a time of day thing, or time of month, or day of the week. For what it's worth I have always gone late in the day (like after 3:30 pm) and always mid week (Tues-Thur.) Diamond Head only tested me for gonorrhea and chlamydia. I'm considered "low risk" because I only have sex with women. I guess if you want more testing you have to tell them during the brief interview, that you have sex with men and / or trannies, and / or you use IV drugs. The last time I went to DH clinic, did the piss test for G and C, then went straight to Life Foundation for HIV and Hep C tests. Both were really quick and painless. The DH results you get in about 3 days, and the Life Foundation results in 15 minutes.

As far as other options I have heard and read that Planned Parenthood, and the Waikiki Health Center does testing. No personal experience. Of course there is always your personal physician.

[JimBoyden]

Go to Life Foundation on Ala Moana Blvd makai side office building in Kakaako. HIV test 15 min results with a finger prick. Mahus work there so easy to tell them all your stories. It's helpful to share bbfscip with SW and all kinds of stories & their mahus, they heard it all & won't be shocked or judge you.

Appointments are fast too, walk in only. Not long wait like Diamond Head Clinic. DH clinic doesn't really do hiv test anymore unless you answer questions and are at very high risk or they will say no hiv test for you. There gonaria siffilus and clamidia tests are good tho. No ding ding pee pee hole swab painful needed, just pee test.

The Life Foundation webscite says they do HIV and some Hep tests but no mention of other STDs. Do they do the regular clam, gon, syph, etc tests too or just HIV? I don't dig waiting at Diamond Head Clinic for hours.

Any other options?

[Idusixtyning]

Not to change the current topic, but I had a question. I live on the big island, so my experience at aamps are only when I travel to Oahu. I'm always paranoid of getting caught in some raid, and getting arrested. I know the basics, I never ask / talk about money or services with anyone, but if there was a raid while I was there is just being there grounds for being arrested? Would you have to be caught in the act?

I enjoy the services, but would feel more at ease if the provider did out calls to my hotel room. I wouldn't trust BP escorts to come to my room, I've heard too many horror stories. At least with the aamp providers you can be sure you won't be set up. Are the providers allowed to do freelancing? I've wondered if they are even allowed to leave the MP?

Anyways, any thoughts on these would be appreciated from the locals who know more than me, if they don't do freelancing I'd appreciate any tips like how to spot a possible raid, best time to go, aamps that are safe / unsafe from the cops.

Thanks all.

-B.

There are Chinese on BP with ads that specify outcall to hotel rooms but you don't know what you'll get because even if the pic is real, they may send an unadvertised girl.

Good luck.

Some tactics to use when arranging an outcall with an unfamiliar provider / agency while travelling. I'd arrange the outcall but give the room number just across the hall so I can view through the door peephole. If the girl does not look attractive or if there is someone accompanying the girl, then I won't open the door. If I like what I see and it looks safe, then I'll quickly open the door and intercept. Another tactic is waiting somewhere near the elevators or hallway before the approximate outcall time to observe any single woman heading towards my room and intercept if she looks good and no one is with her. Another is arranging to meet in a hotel area like a bar with a description of her attire. If you don't like what you see, then disappear. This would apply for hotels where visitors must be accompanied by a registered hotel guest in the elevators. And always use a burner phone when arranging for outcalls.

[Botoman]

So what's the options for testing if you don't want to go to your gp and answer awkward questinos. State Health center at Leahi used to offer "confidential" testing but the website now says something about eligibility requirments and the wait used to be horrendous. PM me if you don't want your spot suddenly crowded.

Go to Life Foundation on Ala Moana Blvd makai side office building in Kakaako. HIV test 15 min results with a finger prick. Mahus work there so easy to tell them all your stories. It's helpful to share bbfscip with SW and all kinds of stories & their mahus, they heard it all & won't be shocked or judge you.

Appointments are fast too, walk in only. Not long wait like Diamond Head Clinic. DH clinic doesn't really do hiv test anymore unless you answer questions and are at very high risk or they will say no hiv test for you. There gonaria siffilus and clamidia tests are good tho. No ding ding pee pee hole swab painful needed, just pee test.

[JimBoyden]

So what's the options for testing if you don't want to go to your gp and answer awkward questinos. State Health center at Leahi used to offer "confidential" testing but the website now says something about eligibility requirments and the wait used to be horrendous. PM me if you don't want your spot suddenly crowded.

[H Mobius]

Not to change the current topic, but I had a question. I live on the big island, so my experience at aamps are only when I travel to Oahu. I'm always paranoid of getting caught in some raid, and getting arrested. I know the basics, I never ask / talk about money or services with anyone, but if there was a raid while I was there is just being there grounds for being arrested? Would you have to be caught in the act?

I enjoy the services, but would feel more at ease if the provider did out calls to my hotel room. I wouldn't trust BP escorts to come to my room, I've heard too many horror stories. At least with the aamp providers you can be sure you won't be set up. Are the providers allowed to do freelancing? I've wondered if they are even allowed to leave the MP?

Anyways, any thoughts on these would be appreciated from the locals who know more than me, if they don't do freelancing I'd appreciate any tips like how to spot a possible raid, best time to go, aamps that are safe / unsafe from the cops.

Thanks all.

-B.

Well, if you do get caught in a raid do not do things like give them attitude or argue the law (don't mean to re-ignite old arguments), or they could make things harder for you. Perhaps it is easier said than done, but just be cool.

Under proper conditions it is possible to eventually get an AMP girl to see you in the privacy (and safety) of your home but it is entirely up to the girl on a case by case; not something to count on.

There are Chinese on BP with ads that specify outcall to hotel rooms but you don't know what you'll get because even if the pic is real, they may send an unadvertised girl.

Good luck.

[BTanaka]

Not to change the current topic, but I had a question. I live on the big island, so my experience at aamps are only when I travel to Oahu. I'm always paranoid of getting caught in some raid, and getting arrested. I know the basics, I never ask / talk about money or services with anyone, but if there was a raid while I was there is just being there grounds for being arrested? Would you have to be caught in the act?

I enjoy the services, but would feel more at ease if the provider did out calls to my hotel room. I wouldn't trust BP escorts to come to my room, I've heard too many horror stories. At least with the aamp providers you can be sure you won't be set up. Are the providers allowed to do freelancing? I've wondered if they are even allowed to leave the MP?

Anyways, any thoughts on these would be appreciated from the locals who know more than me, if they don't do freelancing I'd appreciate any tips like how to spot a possible raid, best time to go, aamps that are safe / unsafe from the cops.

Thanks all.

-B.