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  1. #554

    Need some advice. .

    So. Need the valued opinions of some more seasoned mongers here- although I'm not a newbie. I've other than an opinion or so here and there never so outwardly recommended anyone as I did Anna the Gem a few weeks ago. And absolutely everything initially said was spot on. Lot of fun- cool to be with- nice, funny, etc. As the days went on I noticed things which were not so cool- some I even brought to the forefront. So- here's my question- having been on this site for a while and provided input when relevant, I'm sorta at a loss with Anna. As you all can see there is a different dynamic now- now that I have seen more behavoirs, let's say things, received messages from you all as well, and been asked questions- I of course feel compelled to share this info as my primary responsibility is to you all and the integrity of the info here. What is your all's opinion on to what extent I share? She is under the impression that "I owe her" and wants me to refrain from sharing any additional info about her- even tho what I share is fact- and what we all have a right to know. I have nothing against her personally- and don't want it to appear as such. She is reaching out to those she has seen implying things here are not factual. Which indeed they are 100%. So, if you were me how would you handle this? Post what I know or just cease all together? All opinions are appreciated. Sorry for the dissertation!
    Last edited by Traveler4321; 05-14-19 at 15:15. Reason: Correct typos

  2. #553

    Anna

    Well I'm sure she is overwhelmed with calls and text. Sounds fun but I see a burn out coming. A couple of RED Flags and pricey for a new chick. IMHO. There is plenty of back channel concerns. Shows how bad the selection is in town. For her price point I'm use to more reputable provider. I like a freak in the sheets as much as anyone. However when a high volume provider isn't using safe sex practices. I get concerned that we're thinking with our little heads and not the big one in our shoulders. IMHO.

    The old saying about the crazy chicks, they're are the best Fk $ is true in my experience. However that shit can turn around and bite ya! Enjoy and think before you dive into the PINK.

    I've been lucky to never have a STD or get stopped by the Police. Had beautiful woman coast to coast and border to border and overseas.

    I've had a few mottos keep me safe over 20 years in and out of the hobby.

    1. Better safe than sorry.

    2. Go with your gut.

    3. When in doubt, don't whip it out.

    I'm an old fart in the hobby now. Was addicted to this hobby once seeing up to 5 providers in a week. I was able to pull away before I took over my life. Made some great and long lasting friends. Saw some beauties go down the rabbit hole and never come out. Saw others retire and move on to better and greater life.

    Bottom line is treat others the way you want to be treated. However, we all know the risk, so play the long game like myself and s few others. Don't think if a chick is BB you she's not doing it with others who have s 70% risk factor.

    Getting off my soap box. Hoping we find a way to get back to the old days of numerous great providers.

  3. #552

    Chicken or Egg

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogs22  [View Original Post]
    I just read a post with the opinion that Nashville is losing or could be losing some quality providers traveling through due to poor experiences with Nashville guys.

    It got me thinking. Chicken or the egg? I know for a fact it's tough for guys to find quality regulars and this WAS NOT the case a few short years ago. So, which side went downhill first causing the others to seek alternative means to an end? Who knows.

    I know I've never seen more bitching about providers than on this board the last 12 months or so. No shows, robberies, you name it. You're better off seeking another means to an end in my opinion. I believe the quality is down on both sides or believe it very well could be.
    I recently posted a comment in this section and received PMs telling me to back off, informing me my opinion wasn't welcomed. Several of the ladies I have seen talk about being intimidated by mongers, some stalked and one was assaulted after a monger stalked her and got her address. Can't say I blame them for never coming back if that is what they experienced. A while back a monger was bragging how "his friend" robbed a girl of all her money and belongings simply because she feel asleep after completing their session. It was posted she deserved it just because.

    I also know some of these ladies will rip you off or rob you or try to blackmail you if given the chance. Either I'm more particular than I realize or real lucky but treating them like I want to be treated seems to get me better service than intimidating them.

    I see a change in the post of some mongers and over the years they will harden and start trashing these girls for no obvious reason. Maybe everyone needs a periodic brake to refresh their attitude.

    Until then, whoever you are be careful and play safe.

  4. #551

    Nashville losing quality traveling ladies. ?

    I just read a post with the opinion that Nashville is losing or could be losing some quality providers traveling through due to poor experiences with Nashville guys.

    It got me thinking. Chicken or the egg? I know for a fact it's tough for guys to find quality regulars and this WAS NOT the case a few short years ago. So, which side went downhill first causing the others to seek alternative means to an end? Who knows.

    I know I've never seen more bitching about providers than on this board the last 12 months or so. No shows, robberies, you name it. You're better off seeking another means to an end in my opinion. I believe the quality is down on both sides or believe it very well could be.

  5. #550

    Sexual Fantasy

    Ok, so she fakes an orgasm. So what? I'm there to experience a nice sexual encounter, as long as she makes it seem somewhat realistic, I'm ok with it. I'd much rather have her try and make a show of it, instead of acting like a dead fish. Shit, real girlfriends probably do the same thing for us.

  6. #549

    Everyone

    Quote Originally Posted by JustLookn  [View Original Post]
    I wanted to reply to that but didn't want to get on your bad side.

    Chemistry plays a big part in who I see or don't see a second time. Some guys never make the connection so faking is a girls only way.
    Has there own opinion!

  7. #548

    Thanks A2

    Quote Originally Posted by Admin2  [View Original Post]
    Because you can't make a chick cum doesn't mean nobody can. Hookers are people to. I know this one sweet little latin chick who was never happier than the day she found out she could make money doing her favorite thing in the world.

    10 out of 10 may fake it with you but don't assume your shit responses are the same for everybody.
    I wanted to reply to that but didn't want to get on your bad side.

    Chemistry plays a big part in who I see or don't see a second time. Some guys never make the connection so faking is a girls only way.

  8. #547
    Administrator


    Posts: 4922

    Why I moved this

    Quote Originally Posted by ManyInches8  [View Original Post]
    No other way to say this. 10 out of 10 of the ladies fake orgasms. Maybe to boost our ego or to move us quickly along. They have dick all day everyday and we believe our golden cocks and amazing tongues make them cum. Some are better actors than others for sure, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking anything other than that.

    My. 02.
    Because you can't make a chick cum doesn't mean nobody can. Hookers are people to. I know this one sweet little latin chick who was never happier than the day she found out she could make money doing her favorite thing in the world.

    10 out of 10 may fake it with you but don't assume your shit responses are the same for everybody.

  9. #546

    And Might I Add

    Quote Originally Posted by MaximV  [View Original Post]
    LOL your exactly right, LOL, but some of these capt. Save a hoe guys think there getting in good with the girl, she is only using you and its working, she gets money, you get earful of orgasms, that don't happen.
    You get to DATY from al the left over treats left by others.

  10. #545

    Lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by ManyInches8  [View Original Post]
    No other way to say this. 10 out of 10 of the ladies fake orgasms. Maybe to boost our ego or to move us quickly along. They have dick all day everyday and we believe our golden cocks and amazing tongues make them cum. Some are better actors than others for sure, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking anything other than that.

    My. 02.
    LOL your exactly right, LOL, but some of these capt. Save a hoe guys think there getting in good with the girl, she is only using you and its working, she gets money, you get earful of orgasms, that don't happen.

  11. #544

    No Way

    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTheTiger  [View Original Post]
    Everyone must make up their own mind and this board helps with that. I mean the following comment with no disrespect: if you advance or loan money to a Provider, don't expect to get it back in any form. We have all learned that the hard way and I still need a refresher course occasionally. LOL. But as far as GFE, body, personality, value, and services, IMHO she can't be beat. Again, just one man's opinion. I have a weakness for ladies who don't fake it and truly O very hard from oral. She is my ATF in this area. Her ab muscles spasm, her legs and hips quiver, and the good stuff flows. When she reaches behind her and grabs the headboard, arches the back, and begins to utter oh fk, I know the porn show is about to happen and I love the front row seat. LOL. I can only say that while she's available, I don't need anyone else. Sure, I see a variety, but I could live off of a steady diet of Hayden. I'm no white knight and definitely receive no free benefits, so do with my reviews as you please. But I advance or loan her nothing and we get along great. Just food for thought.
    No other way to say this. 10 out of 10 of the ladies fake orgasms. Maybe to boost our ego or to move us quickly along. They have dick all day everyday and we believe our golden cocks and amazing tongues make them cum. Some are better actors than others for sure, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking anything other than that.

    My. 02.

  12. #543

    My philosophy

    Quote Originally Posted by CanDoForU  [View Original Post]
    I met this woman on SA. I honestly thought I had found "THE diamond in the rough" just a gorgeous woman in her mid thirties. One of the most beautiful and intriguing women I have ever met. Sweet as apple pie. Recently separated. Had a couple of kids. The kids were in the custody of their father. That should of sent some flags flying. Skipping some history for the sake of brevity (believe it or not). No, at this point the little head was firmly in control. She had a bit of a wild side just under the surface of her well played hurt and abused outer shell. I remember her having to go to court for some tickets or other BS because she was so late paying that she told me she was probably going to get put in jail. I could not let that happen so I sent her a couple hundred. While in court with no panties on, she sent me a few pics of her kitty under her dress. She absolutely was in court based on the pics she took. I could go on. She sent me a few super hot videos of her just fucking her pussy in the sexiest of ways with her several toys. I did get some self service mileage out of those. Trust me, several more stories of crazy shit that should of sent me running for the hills but didn't. Our relationship lasted about two months. She played me for about $2500. I fucked her twice. The event that finally woke me up was ridiculous. She had fallen ill and was unable to work. She was so sick that after a few weeks, she was going to get thrown out of her home she was renting. She needed $1 k or she was going to be homeless within 24 hrs. I did not have 1 k at the time. However, I did have 900. I sent it. What I thought was particularly unique was that after I sent her the money, she sent a video of herself to me. The video was a live shot of her flipping me off. God damn, at that moment I felt like the biggest dumb ass alive. Quite certain I was. Spare me the "how fucking stupid must you be comments". I totally agree and hopefully learned. We will see. Trust me, this is not the most egregious of relationships in my monger career. Certainly memorable though.
    This is my philosophy when it comes to the providers. I keep it strictly business at all times when dealing with them. No more no less. Of course, I'm not a jerk. I keep the report on a cordial tip but that's its. These women be on one with all the big favors like,"I need money to stay out of jail"can you let me borrow 200?etc. I'm like miss me with that ish. If this is how you make your money, then work for it. Most times, they make up the lie to support their drug addiction and then try to ask for more, more, more, more and more. And some are that stupid to let the mongers close into their personal lifes and know their real names and all, that the way they move could be potentially dangerous. Because what if they come across the wrong man and that dude makes an example out of them? Especially if they let them know where they stay and all of their moves? I know. Kinda dumb on their end but hey, if they think its cute to play games and do that type of stuff, they should know that karma is something. But then again, karma probably caught up to them, they just want people to be miserable with them. I don't believe nothing to be free, I believe it to be even. So if it aint even, it aint nothing. I have had my run over the years with this game. So I treat them as a option, not priority.

  13. #542

    A Black-Swan-Theoretic Approach to Choosing Providers

    As a risk-averse newb, I'm sharing my decision-making principle. If I think something really bad but unlikely could happen, I will avoid it because I can't stand the consequence from the possible but rare bad event.

    For example, I've read stories about Hayden in the main thread that resemble CanDoForU's tale of Snow White. I did personally have a good experience with her. On average, it'd make sense for me to see her again, because if one were to tally up the good vs the bad reports about her, the pros would come on top.

    This is where the Black Swan Theory kicks in. In theory, I understand that providers hooked on drugs can cause a lot of grief for hobbyists, and according to many reports, the provider in question fits the profile. According to reports after my visit, some of the theoretical problems did happen in practice. Thus my prerogative is to avoid the absolute worst cases, which could give me between a really bad day and a really bad life. This is extremely unlikely, but I must avoid it all the same.

    This approach is really nothing special. Just taking all reports seriously. The goal is to survive in this hobby without always needing luck. Read more about the Black Swan Theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory).

    P.S. Disclaimer: no particular hate for Hayden. Just an anecdotal example. I try my best to let my big head make the decisions.

  14. #541

    Hang in there

    Quote Originally Posted by Murfreesboro69  [View Original Post]
    Damn guys it was a joke. I obviously know why you wanted the link. And yeah I'm a newb but you all were at one point too.
    I know sometimes the Seniors seem a little gruff, I include myself in that statement. It gets better. Newbs who take the time to learn will be noticed for their efforts. Unfortunately, this hobby can be dangerous and extremely harsh. The more one learns, the better off they will be. Understanding history and how everything works is easy if you take the time to read back a little bit. No senior on this site wants any newb to think it's easy and all fun. It can be a lot of fun but it will certainly require personal sacrifice in one form or another. The more you learn from what others have posted, the better off you will be. Maybe.

  15. #540
    Quote Originally Posted by CanDoForU  [View Original Post]

    If none of what I have said makes sense to you and your head still seems thick, the last suggestion I can offer is for all affected to please get together and collectively kiss my ass. BTW, thank you Mike 1701.
    I was sort of with you until that last paragraph. While Tips &Tricks are appreciated, especially for the new guys just learning the ropes, review like stories need a villain to make it worth it.

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