TampaReviewer / GFEReviewer's Scam

**Angeleyez727** · 11-24-08 17:23

Originally Posted by G Money Cool

You don't have to justify yourself to me. You've already revealed your true colors, when you sent me a PM asking if I could protect you from the Tampa BBW. If you were truly independent, you wouldn't be caught up in this mess. As I told you before, if you publically renounce your relationship with Josh, you'd find a lot more support on this board. But to think you'll come here and use this for leverage, well, good luck to you. But up to now, I've seen nothing from you but opportunism. You come here seeking support, yet you still pander to the "Legit" blog. You run to Tammy Toole for support. But I still see you advertise on his new ning site. Don't get me wrong. Do what you need to do to survive. But don't come here all self righteous about your business. You are what you are.

Well said!

**G Money Cool** · 11-24-08 02:09

Originally Posted by Scarlett Love

Let me state for the record that I am a totally independent lady.

Regardless of any site you see my listed on, I am not associated with any agency, individual, et cetera.....No one but me and my family reap the benefits of what I do.
I resent any insinuations to the contrary and wish to dispell them totally and 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt.

And my business is not down, it's doing quite well.

You don't have to justify yourself to me. You've already revealed your true colors, when you sent me a PM asking if I could protect you from the Tampa BBW. If you were truly independent, you wouldn't be caught up in this mess. As I told you before, if you publically renounce your relationship with Josh, you'd find a lot more support on this board. But to think you'll come here and use this for leverage, well, good luck to you. But up to now, I've seen nothing from you but opportunism. You come here seeking support, yet you still pander to the "Legit" blog. You run to Tammy Toole for support. But I still see you advertise on his new ning site. Don't get me wrong. Do what you need to do to survive. But don't come here all self righteous about your business. You are what you are.

**Member #4558** · 11-23-08 08:59

Originally Posted by Drew Park

The recent discussion brings back memories. And not all of them good.

There was a old Tampa fellow named Kelly and he ran a website that offered reviews, commentary, and escort ads. He and the site became very popular and some of us on this board were active contributors. But he played the "Josh game". If, as a girl, you "took care of Kelly", then he made sure only good reviews were posted about you. If you didn't play ball, he would either ignore you or make sure your reputation was smeared. Some girls thought taking care of Kelly was the price of doing business. They were wrong... His pandering led to a racketeering indictment.

And much like our buddy Josh, he flaunted it to the world. Charged for his site memberships to. Made lots of money. Almost bragging about it. That more than anything got the attention of the local law dogs and OFC was born.

**R Consultant** · 11-22-08 22:18

I actually like Publix to. I think your right Miss Toole Belt Bish needs a punk like him to run together like to peas in a pod.

You have to laugh at those two clowns.

Happy Hunting..

Originally Posted by Chase Star

Obviously, he doesn't have the chops to make it as a REAL pimp.

I've heard somewhere that he works at the same Publix as Tammy Toole (aka TampaBBW) only instead of working in the bakery department with the Pillsbury Doughgirl he works in deli where he spends most of his time playing "hide the salami" (on himself) and by salami I mean literally salami, so I wouldn't shop there if I were you. Of course, that might just be a rumor but you never know.

**Chase Star** · 11-22-08 21:39

Originally Posted by R Consultant

Does anyone know if this guy actually works?

Obviously, he doesn't have the chops to make it as a REAL pimp.

I've heard somewhere that he works at the same Publix as Tammy Toole (aka TampaBBW) only instead of working in the bakery department with the Pillsbury Doughgirl he works in deli where he spends most of his time playing "hide the salami" (on himself) and by salami I mean literally salami, so I wouldn't shop there if I were you. Of course, that might just be a rumor but you never know.

**R Consultant** · 11-22-08 20:21

Chase is right on the money. I don't get why people get so abrasive and wanting resolve of an issue unless there's something underlying.

I think Josh should have a new name like Pornocchio. He watches some porn and then thinks hes done all that and wants to be that guy. Such a wannabe pimp its sad.Of course he lies so dam much his nose should be as long as the Mississippi River.

Does anyone know if this guy actually works?

Happy Hunting..

Originally Posted by Chase Star

Scarlett,
What you said about being totally independent may very well be true. In fact, I'm sure it is. However, I don't think anyone here ever said or even insinuated that you were working for a pimp or agency. If you reread the post that seems to have prompted your disclaimer, you'll see that the only one actually using the "pimp" term was your buddy Josh. He seems to THINK that others consider him to be a pimp and he doesn't seem to have any problem with that (in fact I suspect he might actually get off on it). So if you have a problem with that image maybe you should take your complaints directly to him for feeding that impression with his various actions.

A pimp or escort agency takes a monetary cut out of a provider's take. What this Josh guy does is demand freebies or big discounts from the providers who are listed on his site on the justification that his reviews are bringing them more business (hence why he is checking up on them regularly and is so concerned that everyone ELSE pay "his girls" top dollar). That is NOT exactly the same thing as being a pimp or agency which gets a set amount for each and every session. But it IS like being an advertising agency. After all, YOU said that you were "listed" on his site.

If you want to clarify anything about your relationship to this Josh guy, maybe you should tell us honestly what if anything you have done for Josh (ie what benefits he has reaped) in exchange for being "listed" so favorably. I believe you when you say all the FINANCIAL benefits go to you and your family (ie that you don't give any of your money to this Josh guy) but there are OTHER ways that he can benefit. Maybe you have done nothing special. Maybe you don't have to. You have gotten favorable reviews elsewhere. However, with so many reports of coercive practices on the part of this guy, it would be hard for us to believe that he has not at least been leaning on you heavily for a little extra sugar (if not completely free sessions then at least heavily discounted ones). Are you also ready to disclaim that none of even that has been going on? How is it possible that so many other girls have been reporting such incidents and yet Josh has no interest in pulling the same shakedown with you?

We should have been more clear. I don't think anyone here considers this Josh guy to be a REAL pimp. We consider him more to be a pimp WANNABEE, a would-be playah, a "man of real influence" in his own mind. And that makes a big difference. A pimp is a scum seeking leech, but a guy who effectively WANTS to be a pimp but doesn't quite pull it off is even more pathetic.

But what does this mean for you? If a provider gets a good review from this Josh guy, that doesn't mean she isn't really good, but it doesn't mean she really is good either (the same thing applies on the flipside to his bad reviews). And therein lies your PR problem. When you lay down with dogs you sometimes get fleas. This Josh guy has got a very bad reputation around here. And, fairly or not, whenever a provider gets a good write-up from him the natural suspicion comes up what that provider really did to get that good review. You say your business is up. Maybe that really is partially due to your good reviews on his blogsite or maybe it is simply because you're a good provider. In either case, you have to take the good with bad and decide whether whatever benefit you might derive from being "listed" on his blogsite is worth the natural suspicions that inevitably come with that. If you don't want people questioning what your relationship is to a guy with such a horrible reputation, then maybe what you should do is either cut your associations with him or fully and honestly disclose what your associations are.

**Drew Park** · 11-22-08 19:17

The recent discussion brings back memories. And not all of them good.

There was a old Tampa fellow named Kelly and he ran a website that offered reviews, commentary, and escort ads. He and the site became very popular and some of us on this board were active contributors. But he played the "Josh game". If, as a girl, you "took care of Kelly", then he made sure only good reviews were posted about you. If you didn't play ball, he would either ignore you or make sure your reputation was smeared. Some girls thought taking care of Kelly was the price of doing business. They were wrong... His pandering led to a racketeering indictment.

**Chase Star** · 11-22-08 15:16

Scarlett,
What you said about being totally independent may very well be true. In fact, I'm sure it is. However, I don't think anyone here ever said or even insinuated that you were working for a pimp or agency. If you reread the post that seems to have prompted your disclaimer, you'll see that the only one actually using the "pimp" term was your buddy Josh. He seems to THINK that others consider him to be a pimp and he doesn't seem to have any problem with that (in fact I suspect he might actually get off on it). So if you have a problem with that image maybe you should take your complaints directly to him for feeding that impression with his various actions.

A pimp or escort agency takes a monetary cut out of a provider's take. What this Josh guy does is demand freebies or big discounts from the providers who are listed on his site on the justification that his reviews are bringing them more business (hence why he is checking up on them regularly and is so concerned that everyone ELSE pay "his girls" top dollar). That is NOT exactly the same thing as being a pimp or agency which gets a set amount for each and every session. But it IS like being an advertising agency. After all, YOU said that you were "listed" on his site.

If you want to clarify anything about your relationship to this Josh guy, maybe you should tell us honestly what if anything you have done for Josh (ie what benefits he has reaped) in exchange for being "listed" so favorably. I believe you when you say all the FINANCIAL benefits go to you and your family (ie that you don't give any of your money to this Josh guy) but there are OTHER ways that he can benefit. Maybe you have done nothing special. Maybe you don't have to. You have gotten favorable reviews elsewhere. However, with so many reports of coercive practices on the part of this guy, it would be hard for us to believe that he has not at least been leaning on you heavily for a little extra sugar (if not completely free sessions then at least heavily discounted ones). Are you also ready to disclaim that none of even that has been going on? How is it possible that so many other girls have been reporting such incidents and yet Josh has no interest in pulling the same shakedown with you?

We should have been more clear. I don't think anyone here considers this Josh guy to be a REAL pimp. We consider him more to be a pimp WANNABEE, a would-be playah, a "man of real influence" in his own mind. And that makes a big difference. A pimp is a scum seeking leech, but a guy who effectively WANTS to be a pimp but doesn't quite pull it off is even more pathetic.

But what does this mean for you? If a provider gets a good review from this Josh guy, that doesn't mean she isn't really good, but it doesn't mean she really is good either (the same thing applies on the flipside to his bad reviews). And therein lies your PR problem. When you lay down with dogs you sometimes get fleas. This Josh guy has got a very bad reputation around here. And, fairly or not, whenever a provider gets a good write-up from him the natural suspicion comes up what that provider really did to get that good review. You say your business is up. Maybe that really is partially due to your good reviews on his blogsite or maybe it is simply because you're a good provider. In either case, you have to take the good with bad and decide whether whatever benefit you might derive from being "listed" on his blogsite is worth the natural suspicions that inevitably come with that. If you don't want people questioning what your relationship is to a guy with such a horrible reputation, then maybe what you should do is either cut your associations with him or fully and honestly disclose what your associations are.

**Member #4216** · 11-22-08 02:43

Let me state for the record that I am a totally independent lady.

Regardless of any site you see my listed on, I am not associated with any agency, individual, et cetera.....No one but me and my family reap the benefits of what I do.
I resent any insinuations to the contrary and wish to dispell them totally and 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt.

And my business is not down, it's doing quite well.

**G Money Cool** · 11-21-08 12:02

Just checked out the "Legit Review Blog". Activity is still way, way down. One of Josh's soulmates - the 'Belly Button Lover' - has announced an ignominious retirement from hobbying. And Josh recently launched a poll - presumably wondering why his bitches weren't bringing in more money. I quote:

I think the economy has started to take its toll on people. I talk to random girls on a daily basis (if some of you consider that being their pimp, so be it) and alot of them are reporting that the demand has plummted down so bad(some are lucky if they get more than 1 call a day).

Reports of alot of people trying to get hour sessions from providers (specially an all inclusive gfe dream) for around 100 roses and of course alot of the girls are not willing to do something like that. So for those of you doing something like that, shame on you.

That's why i launched the poll above and so far 66% (26 votes) of the people who voted have indicated their spending has decreased while only 28% (11 votes) people have indicated that it has stayed the same and 5% (2 votes) indicated it has become obsolete (meaning not spending any at all due to loss of job or cant afford it).

Now, I ask you. How can you run a forum that is supposed to be for guys to get the most bang for their buck, yet chastise guys for trying to put the laws of supply and demand into play? Demand is down because people have less money to spend. Supply is in excess, as more girls come onto CL and other boards. Naturally, prices are going to come down. But pimp-boy-wonder here thinks it's shameful to try to barter over it? Give me a break. The real reason he's trying to shame people into paying "retail" prices is the girls are much less likely to kick him his cut if they are slashing prices.

For any of the remaining followers of that blog. You can't possibly tell me you think Josh is doing this out of the kindness of his heart. Calling up girls daily asking how many sessions they had. That's not concern, that's accounting. He's an internet-weenie pimp. Instead of a backhand, he uses his bogus blog and his craigslist flagging software to keep girls in line.

**G Money Cool** · 11-19-08 08:50

Originally Posted by Angeleyez727

Your welcome

If anything else, I figured you guys would get a little laugh out of it.
The sad thing is, I am sure someone will fall for it...

I would post it on CL but whats the point?
It would almost be like promoting his BS for him.
And I am not going to pay for that...lol

You already see how many girls are willing to do stuff like that for a
"good review", just look at Josh's site.

BTW... Can someone please tell me the meaning of IMHO? And I think the other one is YMMV?

Thanks

Click the link "Abbreviations" at the top of the page, and all will be revealed.

**Nemodc** · 11-19-08 02:26

IMHO-- in my humble opinion

YMMV-- your mileage may vary (as in differing levels of service from same lady to different gentlemen)

FUBAR-- f'ed up beyond any repair

SNAFU-- situation normal, all f'ed up

**Angeleyez727** · 11-18-08 20:36

Originally Posted by Chase Star

He did CLAIM it as "MY SITE" even though it really isn't.

Thanks to Angeleyez for outing this guy. Hopefully, she'll also share the info with other providers who would be his real potential victims, not us. This site is not just about outing bad providers. Bad hobbyists should be outed too because they bring the overall impression of all of us as clients among all providers. Unfortunately, among certain other providers with huge chips on their shoulders they can't seem to distinguish between guys who would treat all providers poorly and those that just aren't willing to meekly accept their particular crap. BTW, IMHO having calm classy rational NORMAL providers like Angel on this board is a huge asset as I appreciate the ability to hear her perspectives.

Your welcome

If anything else, I figured you guys would get a little laugh out of it.
The sad thing is, I am sure someone will fall for it...

I would post it on CL but whats the point?
It would almost be like promoting his BS for him.
And I am not going to pay for that...lol

You already see how many girls are willing to do stuff like that for a
"good review", just look at Josh's site.

BTW... Can someone please tell me the meaning of IMHO? And I think the other one is YMMV?

Thanks

**R Consultant** · 11-15-08 13:16

Instead of responding back to him and letting him know you even paid attention to his antics just post his email in an open forum with no response.

He will get bored with you and go away alot quicker.

Happy Hunting..

Originally Posted by Angeleyez727

So I got this e mail today and was not sure exactly what he was
talking about, so I responded back to him. First e mail starts at the
bottom of this post...I am attaching some of the 6 photos he attached.
He sent this e mail to several BBW's from CL...
Its kinda funny anyway.

Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:44 PM
From: This sender is DomainKeys verified "Marcus Jonson" <omoweleo@yahoo.com>Add sender to Contacts To: eyesa61@yahoo.com

funny cuz ill just flag all your post

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From: Angel Eyes <eyesa61@yahoo.com>
To: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:28:31 PM
Subject: Re: HERE IS MY SITE

Funny thing is, your just like Josh! The TEV site is not legit now becauseof him asking everyone for freebies in exchange for a "good review". Im straight though, I am only here for roses! Not freebies. And I am going to put you on blast by putting your e mail, pics and these e mail outs onthe usasexguide and craigslist.

--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: HERE IS MY SITE
To: eyesa61@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 8:54 PM

i own the site and im just trying to help you make more money. i can give you the number to other girls if you dont believe me about getting you 5-7 more customers. i only help freebies so one freebie can be f/s or just head relief its up to you what you want me to let them know. its one freebie= 5-7 customers or you want me to pay which wont get you a review sorry im only helping out

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From: Angel Eyes <eyesa61@yahoo.com>
To: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:51:46 PM
Subject: Re: HERE IS MY SITE

Well if you want to be serviced then pick up the phone and set up and appt.Bring your roses and I will give you something to review.

--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: HERE IS MY SITE
To: eyesa61@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 8:44 PM

how can i review you if i was never serviced

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From: Angel Eyes <eyesa61@yahoo.com>
To: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:42:12 PM
Subject: Re: HERE IS MY SITE

cool. So put me on there.

--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Subject: HERE IS MY SITE
To: eyesa61@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 8:26 PM

here is the website http://www.sexyescortads.com/cities/...tampa_escorts/

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From: Angel Eyes <eyesa61@yahoo.com>
To: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:19:14 PM
Subject: Re: I CAN VERIFY YOU SO YOU CAN GET 6-7 MORE CUSTOMERS GUARANTEED

Whats the site?

--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Osarobo Omowele <omoweleo@yahoo.com>
Subject: I CAN VERIFY YOU SO YOU CAN GET 6-7 MORE CUSTOMERS GUARANTEED
To: pers-917589228@craigslist.org, pers-917604805@craigslist.org, pers-917618425@craigslist.org, pers-917629347@craigslist.org, pers-917635085@craigslist.org
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 7:48 PM

HEY IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO HELP YOU GET VERIFIED WITH A REAL WEBSITE NOW THAT THE TEV AND TER HAS BEEN POSTED AS A FAKE I COULD PUT YOU UP ON MY SITE SO GUYS COULD CHECK IT OUT AND I GUARANTEE 6-7 MORE CUSTOMERS FROM MY SITE SO LET ME KNOW. I ATTACHED MY PICS JUST IN CASE YOU WANNA SEE WHAT I LOOK LIKE AND TO PROVE IM NOT A COP CUZ COPS CANT PUT PICS UP IN EMAILS. AND IF YOU LIKE WHAT YOU SEE YO U CAN HOLLA AT ME LOL JK BUT I WORK WITH TAMPA ELITE ESCORTS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS EMAIL ME BACK

**Drew Park** · 11-15-08 09:39

Originally Posted by Chase Star

He did CLAIM it as "MY SITE" even though it really isn't.

There are sites out there that troll metro area escort sites and "steal" the pics and contact information. Many times you need to "join" their site to get info you otherwise might get for free. Pick a girl and/or her email address and Google it, you'd be surprised how many sites you hit. This even though the girl may have only ran an ad in a single place.

Recently a friend saw an independent girl in town. In the course of conversation he mentioned all the sites she was on. She did not believe him until he showed her. She was aghast and protested she only signed up on a single site.