TampaReviewer / GFEReviewer's Scam

**R Consultant** · 11-27-08 02:15

This goes to show women do have a brain unlike some ladies who have fell for this pricks games. I hope you speaking up will give others a voice and tell josh to get bent.

But if you interested - I would like to invite you to my private Xmas party- I like to call it 1-2-3 Roll!! Its alot of fun and you might even get some good sleep the next day. Gwen you can PM me for details.

Happy Hunting..

Originally Posted by Gallentgwen

How is it that I have been "invited" to join this dirtbags site? It states:

"Hi there, I was given emails address of some of you by some members of the board to invite you to join in the discussion on the message board. This site is by invite only and it is drama free. "

Why would a hobbyist provide that information without my knowledge? I am really offended, I believe that if it IS true, that member is acting in poor taste. Or is it that, Josh himself can find out this certain information?

Again, I am with Nina, what happened to this hobby being a journey to pleasuretown? Some afternoon delight?

And, I thank you hobbyists whom remain complete gentleman, and take care of us ladies.

**Clinton Bush** · 11-26-08 22:12

Originally Posted by Gallentgwen

How is it that I have been "invited" to join this dirtbags site? .

The little scumbag (a/k/a Josh da pimple faced pimpanzee) was probably here reading these posts and figured it out.

Gwen, I for one applaud you as you (unlike some of the other providers posting here) were able to see through his bullcrap and didn't fall for his high pressure tactics. Good for you for calling him out on it.

**R Consultant** · 11-26-08 21:15

I think a free session just to set things right would do wonders for her reputation. At least your are a very highly respected senior member within this forum. Plus at least we know your are going to honest and present the facts as you see them. Way to go Chase.

Good Luck and have a dam good time.

Happy Hunting..

QUOTE=Chase Star]SmackThat, I think NinaLatina has a point.

This thread is supposed to be focused on the TEV blogsite scam and the GFEReviewer and not the providers who were suckered by him. Scarlett may have been naive to fall for this Josh guy's scam but that is no reason to be so harsh towards her. She's still in most respects also just a victim in this little drama. Let's never lose the focus that this Josh guy is the real scumbag.

I agree that Scarlett set herself up for her "damned if you do and damned if you don't" position when she fell for this Josh guy's "bring you more business" line and got into bed with him, both figuratively and literally speaking. I also agree that she is being unrealistic to expect everyone here to ignore the fact that she has failed to really denounce this bozo and continues her association with the guy. She seems to want to have it both ways, getting whatever benefit she can because of the TEV blogsite seal of approval while not suffering the suspicion and derision that comes from various quarters, including USG, for being associated with that blogsite. And when she "dost protest too much" as she did when she responded to a post that was not even about her she only serves to heighten our awareness of her other associations not squash them or let them die as she said she wanted to have happen earlier. So to that extent, she gets somewhat less sympathy from me.

OTOH, I'd be willing to allow that ONCE she initially agreed to that freebie session, she put herself into essentially a no win situation. She can either continue to accept the positive press on the TEV blogsite and whatever business that brings her at the expense of all the natural suspicions and doubt that comes with that from everyone else that knows how that blogsite really works or she can completely and publicly disavow any further association with that blogsite at the risk of this Josh guy changing the reviews for her from good to bad and possibly harming her business amongst all those hobbyists who don't know that the blogsite is a scam. Either way she stands to lose as much as she can gain and I don't envy her those choices.

Unfortunately for her at this point those ARE her only choices and that is the result of the (uninformed) choice she made earlier when she gave this Josh guy his free session. I suppose continuing to try and have it both ways as she has been is another choice, but then she shouldn't complain about the consequences of that either.

I'll happily offer her yet one more option. If she wants to dispel this notion that the TEV reviews were biased and inaccurate, she could provide a FREE session to me and I'd be happy to offer my own truly HONEST and IMPARTIAL review of her on here (and TER and anywhere else she wants). I'm sure we could come up with a way for her REALLY not to know its me until after the session is over and its time to "pay up". For example, if she's interested she can PM me a "coupon code word" of her choosing, then I can make an appointment with her at some random time without revealing at all who I am and only use my "coupon" at the very end. That should eliminate any possibility that she is putting extra effort into her performance that she wouldn't otherwise have been just so she can get a good review. Also, unlike this Josh guy, I won't hide the fact of what I paid in my review but I'll also say what I WOULD have been willing to pay. Sure, I'll admit that this idea is a little crazy and self-serving (assuming she is really as good as she claims) but no more so than what she has already been willing to do with this Josh guy only I think that I've demonstrated more of an ability to be tough but fair to all sides and honest in all my postings.[/QUOTE]

**SmackThatAss** · 11-26-08 21:01

Why do you think of yourselves any more than what you are? A hooker is a hooker! You raise the price thinking we the "jon" owe you more because you can have computer access. Get Real! I find it amusing that you think so highly of yourself but your no better than a hooker on the street.

So smack that ass up and do the only thing you know how to do since it shows you have no brains or education to do anything else. If you had an education why in the world would you lower yourself to such a life.

Now that I have seen Nina I have decided that cheesy MP is a joke. I figured why not see for myself so I can review it. No matter what price they all lower down I was told. I was told I get special pricing and keep to myself. If I told you guys how much I spent you would laugh as they go high and sell rock bottom low. I bet that is so the girls don't tell the owner of the actual amount they are making. I saw a camera so plan on getting recorded. I guesss they blackmail you later. I bet some guy is wacking off somewhere watching his hookers get banged. You MP needs a real update to. You have like 1980's look time to spend some of the owners pimp money and do some renovating. These girls sit out around and jabber on the phones and they are very very loud. Stuck up hookers is a key ingredient in this shop. I can see why the local cops are driving around. I really think if you want to be a hooker you would have a better assortment of hookers to choose from in a cheesy shop. I think I will head back to my happy shop like FT or Aloha. A place where you get respected and taken care of the right way.

Originally Posted by Ninalatina

"You are a Ho! A Ho is a Ho is a Ho! I said it 3 times to get your attention. You let Josh pimp you out and you want to get away. It shows so clear like water.

For all the benefits hes getting I know we all could protect you for the free stuff your giving up. Where do you sign up? ". SMACK

Mr. Smack, Speaking like that, you sure showed the ladies how insulting you can be. This is a hobby, why are you so hateful? Just curious, thought this hobby is supposed to de-stess you.

**Chase Star** · 11-26-08 20:48

GMoney, you're right. I meant to address that to SmackThat and I have corrected my post. You've been a LITTLE harsh at times yourself, but have really not been that bad. What SmackThat posted was what really went over the top. Any way, I apologize for the mix up.

You also made a good point about whether a girl works with an agency, a pimp or is fully independent is really her personal business. The real issue here is whether her reviews have any credibility and by her own admission the review by this Josh guy was received after providing him a free session. She may have been expecting any honest review by him but we all know that is not how he works so that review at least is really meaningless.

**G Money Cool** · 11-26-08 12:33

Originally Posted by Chase Star

G Money, I think NinaLatina has a point.

This thread is supposed to be focused on the TEV blogsite scam and the GFEReviewer and not the providers who were suckered by him. Scarlett may have been naive to fall for this Josh guy's scam but that is no reason to be so harsh towards her. She's still in most respects also just a victim in this little drama. Let's never lose the focus that this Josh guy is the real scumbag.

I agree that Scarlett set herself up for her "damned if you do and damned if you don't" position when she fell for this Josh guy's "bring you more business" line and got into bed with him, both figuratively and literally speaking. I also agree that she is being unrealistic to expect everyone here to ignore the fact that she has failed to really denounce this bozo and continues her association with the guy. She seems to want to have it both ways, getting whatever benefit she can because of the TEV blogsite seal of approval while not suffering the suspicion and derision that comes from various quarters, including USG, for being associated with that blogsite. And when she "dost protest too much" as she did when she responded to a post that was not even about her she only serves to heighten our awareness of her other associations not squash them or let them die as she said she wanted to have happen earlier. So to that extent, she gets somewhat less sympathy from me.

OTOH, I'd be willing to allow that ONCE she initially agreed to that freebie session, she put herself into essentially a no win situation. She can either continue to accept the positive press on the TEV blogsite and whatever business that brings her at the expense of all the natural suspicions and doubt that comes with that from everyone else that knows how that blogsite really works or she can completely and publicly disavow any further association with that blogsite at the risk of this Josh guy changing the reviews for her from good to bad and possibly harming her business amongst all those hobbyists who don't know that the blogsite is a scam. Either way she stands to lose as much as she can gain and I don't envy her those choices.

Unfortunately for her at this point those ARE her only choices and that is the result of the (uninformed) choice she made earlier when she gave this Josh guy his free session. I suppose continuing to try and have it both ways as she has been is another choice, but then she shouldn't complain about the consequences of that either.

I'll happily offer her yet one more option. If she wants to dispel this notion that the TEV reviews were biased and inaccurate, she could provide a FREE session to me and I'd be happy to offer my own truly HONEST and IMPARTIAL review of her on here (and TER and anywhere else she wants). I'm sure we could come up with a way for her REALLY not to know its me until after the session is over and its time to "pay up". For example, if she's interested she can PM me a "coupon code word" of her choosing, then I can make an appointment with her at some random time without revealing at all who I am and only use my "coupon" at the very end. That should eliminate any possibility that she is putting extra effort into her performance that she wouldn't otherwise have been just so she can get a good review. Also, unlike this Josh guy, I won't hide the fact of what I paid in my review but I'll also say what I WOULD have been willing to pay. Sure, I'll admit that this idea is a little crazy and self-serving (assuming she is really as good as she claims) but no more so than what she has already been willing to do with this Josh guy only I think that I've demonstrated more of an ability to be tough but fair to all sides and honest in all my postings.

And although Nina Latina was addressing another member, I will respond here and say what seemed to have gotten Scarlett stirred up was my post where I talked about Josh considering himself a pimp. For Scarlett to feel the need to respond to that to set the record straight, when it wasn't explicitly or implicitly directed at her, was revealing (I. E. "I resent any insinuation. "). Many girls have gotten caught in his trap and now regret it. Some have cut ties with him and in some cases have suffered because he is vengeful. Others have embraced it and are fully on board with his scam, denying any freebies or remuneration, effectively enabling him.

In Scarlett's case, she is trying to play it mulitple ways. She let's Josh think she's still in his circle, but she also comes here and asserts she is 100% independent, and then goes to Tammy the BBW and gets herself promoted on her site as well. My point was simply this. She doesn't need to come here and reassure me that she is indpependent. It seems like she needs to reassure herself. My first post insinuated nothing about her. I personally don't care if I'm seeing an agency girl or a 100% independent. How you manage your finances, promotion, etc is your business. If you want to declare yourself as independent, declare it to the people who are actively promoting and advertisting you. Namely Josh, who as recently as 2 weeks ago had Scarlett up as the Featured Provider of the Week.

**Chase Star** · 11-26-08 12:09

SmackThat, I think NinaLatina has a point.

This thread is supposed to be focused on the TEV blogsite scam and the GFEReviewer and not the providers who were suckered by him. Scarlett may have been naive to fall for this Josh guy's scam but that is no reason to be so harsh towards her. She's still in most respects also just a victim in this little drama. Let's never lose the focus that this Josh guy is the real scumbag.

I agree that Scarlett set herself up for her "damned if you do and damned if you don't" position when she fell for this Josh guy's "bring you more business" line and got into bed with him, both figuratively and literally speaking. I also agree that she is being unrealistic to expect everyone here to ignore the fact that she has failed to really denounce this bozo and continues her association with the guy. She seems to want to have it both ways, getting whatever benefit she can because of the TEV blogsite seal of approval while not suffering the suspicion and derision that comes from various quarters, including USG, for being associated with that blogsite. And when she "dost protest too much" as she did when she responded to a post that was not even about her she only serves to heighten our awareness of her other associations not squash them or let them die as she said she wanted to have happen earlier. So to that extent, she gets somewhat less sympathy from me.

OTOH, I'd be willing to allow that ONCE she initially agreed to that freebie session, she put herself into essentially a no win situation. She can either continue to accept the positive press on the TEV blogsite and whatever business that brings her at the expense of all the natural suspicions and doubt that comes with that from everyone else that knows how that blogsite really works or she can completely and publicly disavow any further association with that blogsite at the risk of this Josh guy changing the reviews for her from good to bad and possibly harming her business amongst all those hobbyists who don't know that the blogsite is a scam. Either way she stands to lose as much as she can gain and I don't envy her those choices.

Unfortunately for her at this point those ARE her only choices and that is the result of the (uninformed) choice she made earlier when she gave this Josh guy his free session. I suppose continuing to try and have it both ways as she has been is another choice, but then she shouldn't complain about the consequences of that either.

I'll happily offer her yet one more option. If she wants to dispel this notion that the TEV reviews were biased and inaccurate, she could provide a FREE session to me and I'd be happy to offer my own truly HONEST and IMPARTIAL review of her on here (and TER and anywhere else she wants). I'm sure we could come up with a way for her REALLY not to know its me until after the session is over and its time to "pay up". For example, if she's interested she can PM me a "coupon code word" of her choosing, then I can make an appointment with her at some random time without revealing at all who I am and only use my "coupon" at the very end. That should eliminate any possibility that she is putting extra effort into her performance that she wouldn't otherwise have been just so she can get a good review. Also, unlike this Josh guy, I won't hide the fact of what I paid in my review but I'll also say what I WOULD have been willing to pay. Sure, I'll admit that this idea is a little crazy and self-serving (assuming she is really as good as she claims) but no more so than what she has already been willing to do with this Josh guy only I think that I've demonstrated more of an ability to be tough but fair to all sides and honest in all my postings.

**R Consultant** · 11-26-08 10:18

Hey Smack - She even called you Mister.. I for one like the deal when I get all my stress taken away. I say you kiss up and be a good boy!

Dam you need to get laid in a bad way. If you want RTFF and you can find a freak that will make you happy. Trust me on this you will find one who can get the job done.

Happy Hunting..

**G Money Cool** · 11-26-08 10:01

Originally Posted by Originalwook

Well, has anyone informed the agency of what is going on here? They might just like ti know. And do we know if the girl has any knowledge of his actions? She might not know what he is doing either.

Noticed this girl is also advertised on Rocco's Escorts site. For all I know, maybe that's tied up somehow with Elite Connexxxions. But it also could be that this girl free lances and let's many agencies try to book her. It's an interesting concept.

**G Money Cool** · 11-26-08 09:58

Nina Latina. I noticed your reply here. Welcome to this forum. I also noticed you are a recent addition to the "Legit" blog, though your review came from someone other than Josh himself. Do you have any info about the way Josh approaches girls? Did the guy who review you tell you he was posting you on that blog? Had Josh ever contacted you before asking if you wanted to be "verified"? I'd be very interested to know what, if any, contact you had with him before or after your review was posted.

My (very limited and unscientific) research into the goings on there indicate that, when another member of that board brings forward the first review on a girl, Josh doesn't seem to approach them and ask them for freebies or for money for the business he brings your way. Seems like pretty obvious reasons for this. The initial review is already out there, which reduces his leverage. If you turn down his request for a freebie and he tries to call you a bad provider, he would then have a pissing match with the original poster, which is bad for business. And if he just flat out asks for money, you could go back to the original reviewer and expose him.

No, from the girls I've talked to, he tends to go for girls who are new posters to CL, no reviews anywhere, and put his proposition forward before they have anywhere else to turn. It's becoming more difficult for him now, as he can't flag relentlessly. That, and the growing number of people who have witnessed first hand his tactics makes it increasingly difficult for him to find an unsuspecting victim.

Hopefully you manage to not get tangled in his web.

G

**NinaLatina** · 11-25-08 21:11

"You are a Ho! A Ho is a Ho is a Ho! I said it 3 times to get your attention. You let Josh pimp you out and you want to get away. It shows so clear like water.

For all the benefits hes getting I know we all could protect you for the free stuff your giving up. Where do you sign up? ". SMACK

Mr. Smack, Speaking like that, you sure showed the ladies how insulting you can be. This is a hobby, why are you so hateful? Just curious, thought this hobby is supposed to de-stess you.

**Member #4558** · 11-25-08 18:51

Originally Posted by G Money Cool

For those of you who follow the Eros Guide, you may have noticed a touring girl named Christy Lamour. Hails from Miami, works for the Elite Connexxxions agency. I've seen a girl Tatiana from that agency a year or so back. Quality service, reputable agency. Anyway, I noticed on the Legit Blog yesterday, el pimpito Josh is advertising Christy, offering people to go through him to book her directly (not through the agency). He's even offering a different rate structure than she is listing on Eros. "Please let her know I referred you. I am planning on meeting up with her Thursday before she leaves" implores Josh. Sure you are. You want to demand your share of the $$.

I must admit, I'm only a hobbyist and have not walked on the provider side of the road. But I have to imagine the agency would not be happy to have him move in on one of their touring girls. It's not as if he's just advertising for them with a banner. He is literally offering to cut them out. Not sure if Elite Connexxxions has any muscle behind it. It would be nice if they did.

Josh. I know you are reading this. Might want to watch your back when you go to meet up with her. The agency might just send someone to have a dream about you.

Well, has anyone informed the agency of what is going on here? They might just like ti know. And do we know if the girl has any knowledge of his actions? She might not know what he is doing either.

**G Money Cool** · 11-25-08 16:49

This is making for quite an entertaining day of reading. The delusions of grandeur have reached new heights. A few selective excerpts from the latest musing of the wannebe weenie pimp.

Originally Posted by Legit Scam Blog

I got 2 interesting emails this week. One was from a company that wants to buy out the blog for 5K. The other was from the Editor/creator of GFE Nation asking me if I would be interested in writting a weekly blog about the industry as a whole. Hmmm...

Anyways, Interestingly enough, I went and seen a provider last night (review i coming but will be basic because I know she doesnt like detailed reviews having spoken to other people who seen her in perso), and during our discussion, the whole bashing me part on other sites came up. She advised me that when everyone thinks you are the pimp daddy of people in the area, everyone is jealous of you. Is that what people see me as? No seriously, i need some honest feedback here...

I never asked anyone to visit my site..you will never find me advertising my site on CL or backpage or any other place out there....

...This site was meant for you people and to help YOU out, but you have turned it into an ugly thing. I've said it before and I will repeat it. I really could care less what people do with the info on this site. I could care less what a handful (those dozen or so) of people's opinion of me out there is as well.

I took the oppurtunity to go into my stats counter today...You can see, the number of first time visitors on a daily basis averages to about 520 people, and roughly 300 returning visitors, for a total of 800 visitors per day to the site (that's just October). ...Hell even my ******* doesnt get 800 hits a day and its on a network of 300 million people worldwide.

The post is actually much longer and full of more self-adulation, but I am trying to limit the length. So Josh thinks his site gets more visitors than *******, and he is considering selling it for $5, 000. Hey, internet genius, didn't you know ******* was bought for $580 million back in 2005? Or that Microsoft paid $240 million for 1. 6% of Facebook, essentially meaning that site is worth $15 billion? You should definitely hold out for more cash. Unless your underlying assumption is wrong. You may want to check that out before going to the bargaining table. The stats I've seen say that ******* gets about 115 million visitors per month, which is just under 4 million per day. 4 million, 800, aw, it's close enough. Let's call it even.

**G Money Cool** · 11-25-08 09:33

For those of you who follow the Eros Guide, you may have noticed a touring girl named Christy Lamour. Hails from Miami, works for the Elite Connexxxions agency. I've seen a girl Tatiana from that agency a year or so back. Quality service, reputable agency. Anyway, I noticed on the Legit Blog yesterday, el pimpito Josh is advertising Christy, offering people to go through him to book her directly (not through the agency). He's even offering a different rate structure than she is listing on Eros. "Please let her know I referred you. I am planning on meeting up with her Thursday before she leaves" implores Josh. Sure you are. You want to demand your share of the $$.

I must admit, I'm only a hobbyist and have not walked on the provider side of the road. But I have to imagine the agency would not be happy to have him move in on one of their touring girls. It's not as if he's just advertising for them with a banner. He is literally offering to cut them out. Not sure if Elite Connexxxions has any muscle behind it. It would be nice if they did.

Josh. I know you are reading this. Might want to watch your back when you go to meet up with her. The agency might just send someone to have a dream about you.

**SmackThatAss** · 11-25-08 02:18

After reading this mess over Scarlett G-Money is so right. You are a Ho! A Ho is a Ho is a Ho! I said it 3 times to get your attention. You let Josh pimp you out and you want to get away. It shows so clear like water.

For all the benefits hes getting I know we all could protect you for the free stuff your giving up. Where do you sign up?