2006 Massage Parlor Reports

[MoonView]

If you had any idea what I've been doing with your wife for the last two years. Ahh, forget it - she'll tell you herself when she feels the time is right.

Sorry I even brought it up here. For just a second there, it seemed like a great piece of intel to share with our proud community. My bad.

To bad I don't have to make shit up to make my point, your "illiteracy" is all the proof I need!

Good luck with your future here on the site.

MnV

[Benefactor9]

If you had any idea what I've been doing with your wife for the last two years....

Your posts here are worthless, and personally I will not waste my time reading the utter blather you have vomited onto your keyboard.

The first thing I saw today was Sleazebum's recommendation for violent solutions, and I concur.

The reason we are here is to brag about our conquests, share notes, and occasionally show of a picture or two. We've done a damned fine job of it, and we haven't gotten anyone arrested. The law enforcement professionals don't need this forum to bust an AMP, as there is plenty of other concrete evidence.

B9 - where the fuck are you?

Zhuxi was right. I was out fucking June. Probably will be again in about an hour.

Catch you later,

B9

[Sleazebum]

We all, me included, are stressed by the recent events but that is no reason to start turning on each other!

LIGHTEN UP!!!

If a few of you really hate each other so much then PLEASE meet up somewhere in the real world and kick the piss out of each other if you want.

Otherwise, please keep that kind of BS out of here!

OK? Remember the reason for this forum in the firt place is to get me that BBBJCIMNQNS I am searching for!

You boys are getting to be just plain tiresome!

JJ

[Zhuxi]

At the WHOLE picture instead of just the tiny little part located on the tip of your _ _ _ _, then you would understand that the reason this so called "cooperative monger" in question found himself pulled over and leaned on for some useful info in the first place was because of the so called "fictional" make believe (and yet, incredibly specific) information posted in forums such as this. Even better yet, it was specifically THIS forum from which the information was obtained. Of course, one must automaticlly consider that the numerous news agencies reporting where/how LE got its initial info of supposed illegal activity might just be a "fictional" make believe trick meant to confuse all us mongers.

Clearly, the needless presentation of specific information on THIS board, be it make believe or your weekly wet dream, is what led LE to sit outside of this establishment and pull over the mongers as they exited their sessions. If you are not yet familiar with this LE tactic, then you in definite need of a "street smarts" upgrade. At any rate, that is neither here nor there. The point remains that the cosistently needless posting of such specific information in a publicly accessible forum is dangerous, incredibly stupid, thoughtless. And simply disreagrds the safety of all involved. And its all done for no reason. No benefit and no return.

Stop the forums? No, of course not. However, intel could be presented in a much more diplomatic and discrete manner and still have equal value to the "blow by blow" every detail exposed method generally utilized herein. The bottom line is that many. In fact, most, of the "wet dreamers" aligned herein are like litlle girls with possession of their very first secret. They can't wait to tell their secret to all they meet. All who will listen. In as much detail as possible. And for what? What value, exactly, did this unneccessary disclosure of such specific information add to the "wet dreams" of fantasy contained herein.

Stop the forums. No. But if you can't stop providing such specific info and making it available for any and all who choose to view, then you might as well just join the force yourself. For then, and only then, might you be able to see yourself as the undercover police that you truly are.

By the way, you evidently have one of those fem de fem complexes that you, yourself, are most likely one of the loud mouthed "wet dream" providers of information simply by your "putting words in my mouth" reaction of "You are right, we should just close the forum." No, what we should close is your BIG mouth. A simple re-read of my original post will show absolutely NO mention of closing the forum - so I lack inteligible understanding of your response.

Bench - B9 is out somewhere fucking June.

I am not going to write a five page response to this.

And, BTW, I do not close my mouth, I only close other peoples mouths, by filling them with my dick.

Zhuxi

[MoonView]

Yes "you lack intelligible understanding" so take your 3 posts and go away, as your attitude offends me, not to mention your lack of correct spelling!

MnV

At the WHOLE picture instead of just the tiny little part located on the tip of your _ _ _ _, then you would understand that the reason this so called "cooperative monger" in question found himself pulled over and leaned on for some useful info in the first place was because of the so called "fictional" make believe (and yet, incredibly specific) information posted in forums such as this. Even better yet, it was specifically THIS forum from which the information was obtained. Of course, one must automaticlly consider that the numerous news agencies reporting where/how LE got its initial info of supposed illegal activity might just be a "fictional" make believe trick meant to confuse all us mongers.

Clearly, the needless presentation of specific information on THIS board, be it make believe or your weekly wet dream, is what led LE to sit outside of this establishment and pull over the mongers as they exited their sessions. If you are not yet familiar with this LE tactic, then you in definite need of a "street smarts" upgrade. At any rate, that is neither here nor there. The point remains that the cosistently needless posting of such specific information in a publicly accessible forum is dangerous, incredibly stupid, thoughtless. And simply disreagrds the safety of all involved. And its all done for no reason. No benefit and no return.

Stop the forums? No, of course not. However, intel could be presented in a much more diplomatic and discrete manner and still have equal value to the "blow by blow" every detail exposed method generally utilized herein. The bottom line is that many. In fact, most, of the "wet dreamers" aligned herein are like litlle girls with possession of their very first secret. They can't wait to tell their secret to all they meet. All who will listen. In as much detail as possible. And for what? What value, exactly, did this unneccessary disclosure of such specific information add to the "wet dreams" of fantasy contained herein.

Stop the forums. No. But if you can't stop providing such specific info and making it available for any and all who choose to view, then you might as well just join the force yourself. For then, and only then, might you be able to see yourself as the undercover police that you truly are.

By the way, you evidently have one of those fem de fem complexes that you, yourself, are most likely one of the loud mouthed "wet dream" providers of information simply by your "putting words in my mouth" reaction of "You are right, we should just close the forum." No, what we should close is your BIG mouth. A simple re-read of my original post will show absolutely NO mention of closing the forum - so I lack inteligible understanding of your response.

[Kluvr]

Crackdowns come and go, granted 8/15 is significant to all involved, but all News reports at 10/11pm do is bring more into the hobby. I'm here to testify. Was in the area and clueless for 10+ years, heard a report in 2000-2001 of an AMP getting busted in Montgomery Cty, Md. and thought I might need to check out P4P. Busted my AMP FS cherry at Kona (previously Bethesda), meet many lovely ladies along the way and was fortunite to spend several nice vacations with some of my favorites, all I can say is thanks to the media. Any LE who can find his crusier out front of Dunkins Donuts know exactly where/what AMPs are and what goes on and you've probably had to wait on deck as he finished his session and had suggested his favorite AMP provider probably should take the afternoon off since a DC raid was scheduled.

[Mileaminute]

Newbie - I am going to go way the fuck out on a limb here and guess that you havent spent much time RTFFing. If you had, you'd see that we've been through this before, and that even though you bring up some good points the fact of the matter is that these places are going to get busted with or without the forum - I think there is a general consensus that reporting info doesn't make much of a difference either way. That's because when you look at the whole picture, Posse Commitatus is dead and the resulting attitude nationwide, not just is NOVA is that the cops think that they can do whatever they want to whom. The reason that this forum is the one they plaster all over television is that this is the best forum on the planet for mongers to share info and intel - and the truth of the matter is that most of that happens backchannel anyway - and that is the big picture. Jackson is the best at what he does, we're the best at what we do, the media doesn't have a choice but to look at us - they're entirely too busy to go anywhere else.

There are LE on the forum, I am certainly positive that there is LE in the Senior Membership - I am pretty sure that there is LE even among the ranks of the trusted inner circle of Senior Membership - Cops have the best intel, the best drugs, and the best friends to call if you get into trouble in the middle of the night. I have no problem with them here, but I'm not going to be inviting them to any Roundtables either. If you think that this place is their only source of intel then you're young and naive, no biggie. Just grow up a little bit and leave the professional mongering to the professional mongers. We're not going anywhere, and if you stick around for a while, you might just learn something.

One of you owes Zhuxi an apology - or the only intel you'll ever see is the stuff we say in public.

B9 - where the fuck are you?

Benchseats Rock

And you attempting to determine my life experiece as a hobbiest / monger / owner / pimp / player / gangster and thief are two completely different things. Just because my voice is new to you should never convince you into thinking it is a voice of naieve inexperience - for a judgement of that nature would only bely your self-proclaimed status of wise man.

As far as your intel, your choice, your privilege. Maybe you can offer it up to Zhuxi as the apology you feel he is owed. I'm sure the rest of the universe will survive with or without your intel.

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Hi guys,

Just to put this in perspective:

1. There is no club, massage parlor, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website. Don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town.

2. No Forum Members were detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.

3. No information in this Forum was used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.

4. The police did not contact me or request any information from me about any forum member, and they never will because the forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada.

5. When asked about this website, LE is always going to say that they know about the site and that it was a part of their investigation. What else are they going to say? That they don't know about the site? If they say that, then they're going to get chewed up by the media in the very next question.

Thanks,

Jackson

[Benchseats Rock]

Newbie - I am going to go way the fuck out on a limb here and guess that you havent spent much time RTFFing. If you had, you'd see that we've been through this before, and that even though you bring up some good points the fact of the matter is that these places are going to get busted with or without the forum - I think there is a general consensus that reporting info doesn't make much of a difference either way. That's because when you look at the whole picture, Posse Commitatus is dead and the resulting attitude nationwide, not just is NOVA is that the cops think that they can do whatever they want to whom. The reason that this forum is the one they plaster all over television is that this is the best forum on the planet for mongers to share info and intel - and the truth of the matter is that most of that happens backchannel anyway - and that is the big picture. Jackson is the best at what he does, we're the best at what we do, the media doesn't have a choice but to look at us - they're entirely too busy to go anywhere else.
There are LE on the forum, I am certainly positive that there is LE in the Senior Membership - I am pretty sure that there is LE even among the ranks of the trusted inner circle of Senior Membership - Cops have the best intel, the best drugs, and the best friends to call if you get into trouble in the middle of the night. I have no problem with them here, but I'm not going to be inviting them to any Roundtables either. If you think that this place is their only source of intel then you're young and naive, no biggie. Just grow up a little bit and leave the professional mongering to the professional mongers. We're not going anywhere, and if you stick around for a while, you might just learn something.

One of you owes Zhuxi an apology - or the only intel you'll ever see is the stuff we say in public.

B9 - where the fuck are you?



Benchseats Rock

[Superman06]

This raid and on going investigation spells the end of an era of a really great establishment. The linked news article and news video are interesting. I find it hard to believe that a tip from a traffic stop started all this. People in the news video seemed shocked that such a business was in the office park. If so, then they couldn't be charged with being a public nuisance. LE knew all about HWC, no doubt some frequented the place. Investigation indeed.

This was probably the most reliable business I have ever dealt with, period. It will be missed.

[Sashimi]

Interesting that not one word in the news coverage about the PWC busts mentioned sex slaves.

[MoonView]

You are right. We should just close the forums all together. As a matter of fact, why don't we just shut off access to the internet; world over.

Zhuxi

But how will we continue to make "boom-boom" to the nice K-girls?

I think we need to re-think shutting down the world's internet, there just has to be a better way...

MnV

[Zhuxi]

are greatly aiding LE in collecting information that would most likely be difficult to obtain otherwise. Earlier this year, Sino was popped in MD, and then OS was also popped a few weeks later. In the time between the Sino and OS LE mishaps, the MOCO LE were brazen enough to post in the MOCO forum of this board to thank the local mongers for the specific info they had provided - and further warned that OS was next to go down, which proved to be accurate. It also appears from the news stories related to the recent NOVA activity, that a great deal of specific info once again came from this board.

By providing so much SPECIFIC info in these reports, all providers and clients are at a great risk of LE action. Unfortunately, it is an unneccessary risk that is directly related to the specifity of the info provided in these reports, especially when meaningful reports could still be provided without presenting the unneccessary specifics.

Bottom line - be more thoughtful of what you present in public forums - think before you talk SOOOO much - be protective of yourself and others - for your safety and the safety of everyone else.

Common sense goes a long, long way - especially when your opening your mouth.

You are right. We should just close the forums all together. As a matter of fact, why don't we just shut off access to the internet; world over.

Like someone once said, LE knows what is going on, without forums. Sure, some discreetness is needed, but really, you think this is the basis for the investigation?

If you paid attention, the bottom line here was that someone (maybe even you) opened their mouth at a traffic stop (with some pressure), not typed possible fiction on a forum.

I doubt the PWC officers took this site URL to the DA.

Zhuxi

[IrishMale]

Good advice indeed. Perhaps even better advice is to make this forum (or create one similar to it) that requires an ID and password to access, and the only way of gaining access to it is by being recommended by someone already known and trusted on the site. Not perfect, but better than what is currently happening.

are greatly aiding LE in collecting information that would most likely be difficult to obtain otherwise. Earlier this year, Sino was popped in MD, and then OS was also popped a few weeks later. In the time between the Sino and OS LE mishaps, the MOCO LE were brazen enough to post in the MOCO forum of this board to thank the local mongers for the specific info they had provided - and further warned that OS was next to go down, which proved to be accurate. It also appears from the news stories related to the recent NOVA activity, that a great deal of specific info once again came from this board.

By providing so much SPECIFIC info in these reports, all providers and clients are at a great risk of LE action. Unfortunately, it is an unneccessary risk that is directly related to the specifity of the info provided in these reports, especially when meaningful reports could still be provided without presenting the unneccessary specifics.

Bottom line - be more thoughtful of what you present in public forums - think before you talk SOOOO much - be protective of yourself and others - for your safety and the safety of everyone else.

Common sense goes a long, long way - especially when your opening your mouth.

[Zoomster]

I'm sure LE was shocked - Shocked! - to learn of alleged improprieties at the Health and Wellness Center (loosely quoting the corrupt police chief in Casablanca). Most likely many a fine officer has received therapy at the establishment over the years. Some time ago, at a certain business in the same county, I was mistaken for LE and was offered services for free. I got the impression that this was a fairly routine cost of doing business. Another time, as I left a different clinic, there were two people in the parking lot jotting down license plate numbers. The next day I saw that the Virginia Dept. of Health had called my house. I suspect there was a connection. Fortunately I am a healthy man, aided in no small part by therapy sessions at these now endangered places.

[Benchseats Rock]

Not one neighbor saying that they knew what was going on.

Not one neighbor complaining about the traffic hurting their business.

Not one person saying that they've been bitching for years and thank god for this.

Not one person making regular complaints to complex management that there was a "brothel business."

So what is the news here?


The Ministry of Truth is now open for business.


Well, other than the quality of the writing is going to improve now that we know editors and media people are checking in day to day. Oh, that reminds me. Ms. Pennybacker, if you're looking for someone who will write copy for you so that you can spend more time practicing your shocked and appalled look in the mirror so you don't get trapped in a two-shot, I'm your guy. Just send me a pm. I presume you're already a member here.


Benchseats Rock