2006 Massage Parlor Reports

[Drew Park]

Man, they're all over the place!

http://www.potomacnews.com/servlet/S...7&path=%21news

Two women and five men face charges, including frequenting a bawdy house and receiving money for prostitution.

Police seized cash, condoms, wire transfer slips, rubbing alcohol and an Irish Spring box with pebbles inside of it.

The men charged with running the house would give customers pebbles to prove they paid for services and women working there would accept them as payment, according to court records.

Detectives received a card for the prostitution business and called on Dec. 14, according to an affidavit obtained from Prince William Circuit Court.

The person who answered the phone told the detective "if you know where to go, come on over," according to the affidavit.

The Gang Task Force arrived at 130 Polk Drive, and saw a man driving away. Officers pulled him over to ask him what he was doing at the house, according to court records.

The man who was stopped told detectives that he had just paid $30 to have sex with a "heavy-set" woman, according to the affidavit.

He told the detectives that the girls are normally rotated every week and for his payment he was given a pebble, according to the affidavit.

He would turn the pebble over to one of the girls as payment, according to the affidavit.

Police also seized business cards, a cell phone, cash, identification and more pebbles throughout the house.

The names of the men and women arrested were not available at press time.

Two women and three men were charged with frequenting a bawdy house and two other men were charged with receiving money for prostitution, said Lt. Karen Barton, Manassas Park Police spokeswoman.

[Drew Park]

...After finishing, the girl would always wad up the used cover in plenty of tissues and made me promise to dispose of it off premises, which I always did, usually at a convenience store trash can down the road.

Hmmmmmmm. And all this time I thought that 7-11 was a "bawdy house"!

[Zhuxi]

Even before Black Wednesday, when DC LE was regularly visiting DC AMPs, I remember seeing hilarious signs at Downtown that said "muscle stretching only." One NoVA AMP had posted conspicuously copies of the county code and highlighted the parts where sexual services are banned.

This is not a riskless hobby. Just like any other hazardous hobby, you have to consider the risks and take measures to minimize them if you choose to participate.

Two pretty decent NoVA AMPs still have stuff like that up. One listing everything not allowed; in every room. How nice of them to inform us.

Zhuxi

[Jet Ranger]

I agree that the risk is high in VA. If you can get busted for visiting "a known bawdy house" that is a huge risk. I had enjoyed a couple of visits there, but I think I will steer clear of the VA spas for now. I can ill afford to be one of the unlucky ones. I guess you could say you were the plumber: "Just laying pipe, officer."

There are some good girls at the VA spas. I wonder where they will go now, or if they will just take their chances? I suspect it's the latter until their time is up.

With the exception of LE barging in and catching a masseuse and a client in the act (coitus interruptus), the most damning evidence (aside from affadavits and statements from patrons about illegal acts), is the presence of condoms on the premises, both used and unused.

When LE was cracking down in Fairfax County a few years ago, my favorite AMP at the time had a "no condoms on the premises" policy and was nominally R&T, but FS was always on the menu IF I brought and disposed of my own condom. Of course, I was a regular, known, and trusted customer there back then. After finishing, the girl would always wad up the used cover in plenty of tissues and made me promise to dispose of it off premises, which I always did, usually at a convenience store trash can down the road.

I'm not familiar with the massage licensing requirements for the NoVA counties (Fairfax, Arlington, Loudoun, and Prince William), but assuming licensing is a requirement, if there is at least one licensed therapist in the establishment and there are no condoms to be found on the premises, barring testimony of a client or clients, it should be difficult to prove the place is a "known bawdy house."

Even the testimony of an undercover LE officer of sexual services offered could be portrayed as an "isolated incident" not authorized or sanctioned by the management (unless LE finds a box with hundreds of condoms on the premises.)

Interestingly, my quick search of the USG archives indicates the first report on HWC offering "special services" was posted in Spring 2002. LE may have visited HWC in the past, but somehow they have managed to survive this long. Either LE didn't have enough evidence to get it shut down or didn't care up until now or a combination of the two.

What will really be interesting during the trial is if the prosecutor plans to introduce USG posts from this board as well as completed VIP cards (if they found any) into evidence to try and convince a jury that HWC was a known "bawdy house." As I have posted before, it all comes down to what constitutes a bawdy house and proving that the guys that were busted there knew they were entering one ahead of time. Nominally, all of us go to an AMP to get just a TS and a massage or just a massage from a young, attractive, skilled Asian woman.

Of course, just being arrested and charged with frequenting a bawdy house will ruin the lives of anyone, but that has always been the risk of visiting these places and that's why I posted the excerpt from the law here a few years ago and recently. I wonder how many cases will get plea bargained and never go to trial. It will take a lot of guts to take a case all the way to trial, though.

When LE was cracking down on AMPs on the West Coast, to survive, many AMPs got rid of table showers completely. They now have conventional walk-in showers where you can self-shower of get an accompanied one.

Even before Black Wednesday, when DC LE was regularly visiting DC AMPs, I remember seeing hilarious signs at Downtown that said "muscle stretching only." One NoVA AMP had posted conspicuously copies of the county code and highlighted the parts where sexual services are banned.

This is not a riskless hobby. Just like any other hazardous hobby, you have to consider the risks and take measures to minimize them if you choose to participate.

[Benchseats Rock]

Actually, by Jackson's posted stats on the main page, this forum has 139,148 members as of today. I don't know how many of these are senior members, but I imagine it would be a substantial number. I'm sure it is still a daunting task to screen the posts of all the regular members.

You're not taking into account another 170k users on ISG. Still not a million, but closer than any other forum.

[Jet Ranger]

I would also like to point out that Jackson moderates as the SOLE administrator of this forum alone. He has the responsibility of weeding out the posts of at least 1 million users every day. Wish I knew how he did it without the use of supplementals.

Actually, by Jackson's posted stats on the main page, this forum has 139,148 members as of today. I don't know how many of these are senior members, but I imagine it would be a substantial number. I'm sure it is still a daunting task to screen the posts of all the regular members.

[Jkimva]

This is not going to be a very Merry Christmas for me. Went on vacation for 2 weeks, got back late Saturday nite closed my eyes and had images of Sasha dancing, moaning through my head. Got up Sunday and jumped in the car and headed south to make my dream come true, failed to RTFF, to find the bell was gone. Man, was I disappointed. So headed off to Plan B and saw the beautiful neons glowing in the window, but didn't feel right after seeing the missing bell at previous establishment. So I did a little drive by to see if things were okay. Did notice a black Ford Explorer parked off to the side by the old box trucks with a guy in it just sitting there, gave me a good stare as I drove by. So I circled around and went through the parking lot again, and got the same glare as I drove by. Didn't feel right, so I stopped by a local eatery to grab some lunch and to plan my next move. Took a deep breath, snatched my balls from the glovebox and headed back, Ford was gone, so up the stairs I went. Bell was present, so I pressed on, and drew Connie. Said she had been there for 2 weeks, cute, probably early 30's, saggy tits, tiny ass, nice personality. Gave okay TS, massage was pretty good, finish was about 7. Left happy, after reading forum, I guess I was lucky too.

I fear it won't be long before Plan B will no longer have the button to push, and the neons fade to black. These are sad days ahead, was saving up for my presents to myself.

I'm sure all of us can find some other entertaining ways to spend our time and money. My wish to all fellow mongers, Happy Holidays, and Happy New Year, Happy AMP Hunting.

Be Safe Mongers

[Wayward One]

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[Friendly1]

HWC we harldy knew yee. After reading the news story and how this can ruin a life and others.. I'm going to retire from AMP's

I agree that the risk is high in VA. If you can get busted for visiting "a known bawdy house" that is a huge risk. I had enjoyed a couple of visits there, but I think I will steer clear of the VA spas for now. I can ill afford to be one of the unlucky ones. I guess you could say you were the plumber: "Just laying pipe, officer."

There are some good girls at the VA spas. I wonder where they will go now, or if they will just take their chances? I suspect it's the latter until their time is up.

[Jim Rob]

HWC we harldy knew yee. After reading the news story and how this can ruin a life and others.. I'm going to retire from AMP's

[Drew Park]

El Jefe Jackson who is the moderator, the administrator, and cannot be thanked enough for the work that he does and continues to do without complaint - and not for nothing, He has never asked for a penny from any of us, not even once.

Heck, who needs money when he has a forum chock full of monger tips :^)

[Benefactor9]

Any other deletions or forum management come from El Jefe Jackson who is the moderator, the administrator, and cannot be thanked enough for the work that he does and continues to do without complaint - and not for nothing, He has never asked for a penny from any of us, not even once.

I would also like to point out that Jackson moderates as the SOLE administrator of this forum alone. He has the responsibility of weeding out the posts of at least 1 million users every day.

Wish I knew how he did it without the use of supplementals.

B9

[Benchseats Rock]

Flame on Bench:

Thank you Bench and Jackson for deleting Assholes promptly! That is what makes this site so great and separates USG from the other CL type of bullshit sites.

Not very opinionated.

Big Red

Just to clarify a bit here: I am just a member of the forum, same as anyone else. I cannot delete anything other than my own reports, and then, only within 24 hours, same as any other senior member. Any other deletions or forum management come from El Jefe Jackson who is the moderator, the administrator, and cannot be thanked enough for the work that he does and continues to do without complaint - and not for nothing, He has never asked for a penny from any of us, not even once.

[Benefactor9]

I went to Sakura tonight since my friend June is out of town on vacation.

The wonderful mamasan who used to be at HWC came to the door. She immediately called me by name and gave me a hug. We went to my room and chatted a bit about the old place and things that have happened. She left me to wait for my masseuse.

I drew BB.

She looked familiar, but I determined that I hadn't seen her before. She was a bit standoffish, and then hurried me through an appropriate TS.

Back at the therapy, she did all the right things. I learned to appreciate her face and smile and chatting. Her body was awesome. The closeout made me happy, but I think she experienced a long day today. She made the decision to cuddle after it was all over and made the proper effort at the end to ensure I would accept her if I drew her again.

Face 8 Body 9 Attitude 8 Service 7

[Benchseats Rock]

I am concerned that we are shooting ourselves in the foot. I'm definitely open for suggestions.

Steel toe boots?